Halito James: Did you notice that I posted the resources and links that I think I used on the Cobell case and Gail Norton that you requested? You asked my opinion on a site and I can't seem to find the link. Could you please post it again so I can view it? My Alzheimer's must be acting up again. lol. Imafo Richard Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: Halito James: I have to see if I have it in the hard copies of my records. I will have all of those records soon. If my memory serves me correctly, however, I believe I had gotten the information from the web site of the attorneys handling the case, which I believe is the American Indians Rights group. If you go to that site I believe you will probably be able to confirm this. Let me know if I am correct so that I can try to help you further. Imafo James Brown wrote: Richard, I print various information from Dusty's site for my files. Would you mind forwarding the sources of this additional information you have provided, so I can note in on your post as the documented source? Thank you for the additional comments......James Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wilson" To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > Dusty: > > Thank you for the info. These articles give a good summary of what > has occurred. They, however do not mention that the government was also > held in contempt for destroying records. The people who destroyed the > records were not fired and charged with a crime; but instead were > promoted. You are also right in saying that whites had much of the scrip. > The agent my ancestor, John Harper (Hopiah) applied to, was in league with > 2 attorneys who were speculators in Indian land. It was known that he > would deny people who appeared full blooded because he believed they were > easier to swindle. He would then sell the scrip to the attorneys who would > then sell it to whites. This is why there were so many whites on Choctaw > land before they even arrived in Oklahoma. This can't be challenged in > court, because the congress has closed that option off to us. The > government protects itself and corporate interests from damage they have > done to our ancestors and to us. > Another thing the articles do not mention is that former secretary > to the Interior, Gale Norton, was formerly the attorney for the group, > "One Nation", which is dedicated to the elimination of the Tribes, > scattering the people to the wind and the taking over of the land and > resources by corporations. She is a continued supporter of this group . > > > Imafo > > [email protected] wrote: > Also be aware that a lot of Indians sold, traded or otherwise transferred > their land script to devious Anglos indulging in the act of "Grafting". If > this is the case, usually the records you get from the BLM will give the > white's name with"agent for...", or "acting as agent for" and then the > Choctaw's name that the script was issued in. We discussed the practice of > Grafting at length a couple of years ago, so those posts should be > available > in the Archives. Go to: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > and type in "Grafting" where it says "query". You'll have to do it year by > year, but you should get some hits. > > dusty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > > >> >> Cyndi, I have no name to check the BLM GLO site, but I did find this >> interesting info: >> >> _http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm_ >> (http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm) >> >> which says: >> " Unfortunately, since the release of the Arkansas land records on CD Rom > by >> the BLM, many people are confused into believing that their ancestors >> were >> Choctaw, simply because the ancestor used Choctaw Script to purchase land > in >> that state, and the name of the Indian is listed in the records". >> So, it they are not on the BLM GLO Internet site, they are on the CD. >> Sincerely, >> Fran Bolton >> In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:19:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be > shown >> on the BLM web site. Does anyone know if the land is on the web site but > it >> just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? >> >> Thank you >> Cyndi >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] >> > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? 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