Thanks, Fran! Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: > > Angelyn, in case you want to copy and paste someday, here is how: > > 1. Highlight what you want to copy > 2. Right Click > 3. Choose COPY > 4. Left Click where you want to paste > 5. Right Click > 6. Choose PASTE > > Fran > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 10:56:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Uh, Fran, I don't know how to copy and paste: I went to google and leaving > out the 'parens', typed the URL you sent and had no problems finding the maps. > > Angelyn > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. >

Did this territory that the Choctaws received, known as Arkansas Indian Territory, become part of the present state of Oklahoma or was in lost in cessions,,,Than You ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Indian Territory > Mississippi Choctaws received territory in what is now the state of > Arkansas > after ceding their original land in Miss. after the Treaty of Doaks Stand. > This territory was know as "Arkansas Indian Terr." > > dusty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "April" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:32 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Indian Territory > > >> In the 1860 census, Ancestry lists some of Arkansas as "Indian Lands". >> April >> >> James Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> was any part of arkansas or texas ever recognized as Indian Territory? > Thanks James >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > articles, etc. >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Yahoo! > Messenger with Voice. >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at [email protected] >> > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > articles, etc. > >

I just got back from Los Angeles visiting my daughter and we went to a festival where the Aztec dancers performed. It blew me away! Very different dance style than what we're used to at pow-wows today, and the regalia was out of this world! I took a whole roll of pictures and had my picture taken with the elder. Haven't had them developed yet! I know they usually perform at the Gathering of the Nations, but I've never made it out there for that one. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Matte" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > Dusty, you are so right! I have researched this for years and one of the > best or most plausible accounts is the one recorded by Gideon Lincecum as > told to him in the early 1800s by Chata Immataha - the oldest man in the > world. The Univ. of Ala. Press has reprinted this story and that of > Apushmataha first published by the Mississippi Historical Association in > 1906-1909. More about this publication can be found at the Univ. website > www.uapress.ua.edu. Insert Gideon Lincecum's name in author search or > Pushmataha in title search. I gave my copy of the original handwritten > manuscript and a WPA typed copy to Samford University Special Collections > Dept. located in Birmingham, AL . His original copy is in Austin, TX at the > University of TX library. > > It is a beautiful, lyrical story reflecting the seasonal movement of the > Choctaw people over several generations. > > We always keep searching! Jackie Matte > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:54 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > > > > There has always been speculation that, originally, our people came from > > Mexico. If you will look at Aztec and Choctaw art, there are images that > > are very similar. As an artist, I personally think there could be some > > truth behind this legend. One of our creation legends says the first > > people > > came "from the west". Coming from Mexico, crossing the Miss. River and > > into > > the southeast would verify that claim. It's really anybody's guess and it > > depends on which "expert" you consult. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matthew Winlock" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:06 PM > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > > > > > >> I recently read a post on a site, stating:" Did you know that the origin > > of the Choctaw was in the central american country now known as Belize > > and > > that the Aztec kept Choctaws as slaves before they escaped north and > > eastward." This was the first time I have heard anything even remotely > > close > > to the comment. I was wondering if anyone else might have heard or read > > anything like this? james > >> > >> > >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > >> Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW > > Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > >> > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

Thanks Jackie! I don't remember ever reading this anywhere, so I'll check out these sources. After thinking about where I first heard the "from the west" story, I think it came from oral tradition in my family, along with the story of Chatah/Chicksa. I'll ask my dad. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Matte" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > Dusty, you are so right! I have researched this for years and one of the > best or most plausible accounts is the one recorded by Gideon Lincecum as > told to him in the early 1800s by Chata Immataha - the oldest man in the > world. The Univ. of Ala. Press has reprinted this story and that of > Apushmataha first published by the Mississippi Historical Association in > 1906-1909. More about this publication can be found at the Univ. website > www.uapress.ua.edu. Insert Gideon Lincecum's name in author search or > Pushmataha in title search. I gave my copy of the original handwritten > manuscript and a WPA typed copy to Samford University Special Collections > Dept. located in Birmingham, AL . His original copy is in Austin, TX at the > University of TX library. > > It is a beautiful, lyrical story reflecting the seasonal movement of the > Choctaw people over several generations. > > We always keep searching! Jackie Matte > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:54 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > > > > There has always been speculation that, originally, our people came from > > Mexico. If you will look at Aztec and Choctaw art, there are images that > > are very similar. As an artist, I personally think there could be some > > truth behind this legend. One of our creation legends says the first > > people > > came "from the west". Coming from Mexico, crossing the Miss. River and > > into > > the southeast would verify that claim. It's really anybody's guess and it > > depends on which "expert" you consult. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matthew Winlock" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:06 PM > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > > > > > >> I recently read a post on a site, stating:" Did you know that the origin > > of the Choctaw was in the central american country now known as Belize > > and > > that the Aztec kept Choctaws as slaves before they escaped north and > > eastward." This was the first time I have heard anything even remotely > > close > > to the comment. I was wondering if anyone else might have heard or read > > anything like this? james > >> > >> > >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > >> Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW > > Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > >> > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

Mississippi Choctaws received territory in what is now the state of Arkansas after ceding their original land in Miss. after the Treaty of Doaks Stand. This territory was know as "Arkansas Indian Terr." dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: "April" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Indian Territory > In the 1860 census, Ancestry lists some of Arkansas as "Indian Lands". > April > > James Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > was any part of arkansas or texas ever recognized as Indian Territory? Thanks James > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at [email protected] >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1373.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thought you might be able to use this bit of info as well.: ( Source: Who Was Who Among the Southern Indians 1698 - 1907), by Don Martini:) There was a BOYD DOAK, who is thought to have been a brother to Josiah. Some sources state that it was Boyd Doak who ran/operated Doak's Stand in the lower Choctaw country in 1820. Boyd was a native of Tennessee, a white, who moved to Canton, in Madison County, Mississippi as a young man. He removed to the Yalobusha River about 1830, and in 1840 was living in Tallahatchie County. In 1851 he was living in Holly Springs, and in 1860 was in Yalobusha County. He died in 1878. He was the father of four children, but I have only got the name of one of his children, and that would be a son, Robert Doak, born in 1838, who served in the 11th Mississippi Regiment CSA, and who was a leading merchant in Grenada , Mississippi from 1865 to at least 1891. You may wish to see what turns up between Boyd and Josiah, surely, if they were brothers you can discover that, and if they weren't, there was sure to be some connection and they, at the very least ,had to have known each other. I would believe that they are brothers, but that needs to be checked out. You might want to check Goodspeeds Biographical and Historical Memoirs of Mississippi, page 651 ,for more on Boyd Doak. I also show a William Doak, also a white man among the Choctaw who operated an inn on the infamous Natchez Trace in what is now Madison County, Mississippi. He operated this inn from 1812 to about 1830. There is a possible family connection there as well I would think. In 1830 he was listed as a white male between the ages of 40 - 60 living in Yazoo County. May have been the father to Josiah and /or Boyd????? Another bit of info comes from a relatively new book by James C. Milligan, entitled The Choctaw of Oklahoma. In the book, on page 71 is the following: The Village of Doaksville was located near the Fort ( Towson) by the Doak brothers at the very beginning of the removal period. The Doaks, operators of a trading post at Doak Stand in Mississippi, loaded their goods on a boat and moved to Indian Territory as early as 1831. Josiah S. Doak navigated the Mississippi and the Red ( Rivers) to near the mouth of the Kiamichi River, carried his trade goods to a spot called the "Witch Holes". and set up a store about a mile from Fort Towson that in a short time grew into the largest town in the Choctaw Nation. A post office, the first in the entire territory, was established in 1832. Hope this helps and gives you a few more clues to work with.

Dusty, you are so right! I have researched this for years and one of the best or most plausible accounts is the one recorded by Gideon Lincecum as told to him in the early 1800s by Chata Immataha - the oldest man in the world. The Univ. of Ala. Press has reprinted this story and that of Apushmataha first published by the Mississippi Historical Association in 1906-1909. More about this publication can be found at the Univ. website www.uapress.ua.edu. Insert Gideon Lincecum's name in author search or Pushmataha in title search. I gave my copy of the original handwritten manuscript and a WPA typed copy to Samford University Special Collections Dept. located in Birmingham, AL . His original copy is in Austin, TX at the University of TX library. It is a beautiful, lyrical story reflecting the seasonal movement of the Choctaw people over several generations. We always keep searching! Jackie Matte ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > There has always been speculation that, originally, our people came from > Mexico. If you will look at Aztec and Choctaw art, there are images that > are very similar. As an artist, I personally think there could be some > truth behind this legend. One of our creation legends says the first > people > came "from the west". Coming from Mexico, crossing the Miss. River and > into > the southeast would verify that claim. It's really anybody's guess and it > depends on which "expert" you consult. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Winlock" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:06 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > > >> I recently read a post on a site, stating:" Did you know that the origin > of the Choctaw was in the central american country now known as Belize > and > that the Aztec kept Choctaws as slaves before they escaped north and > eastward." This was the first time I have heard anything even remotely > close > to the comment. I was wondering if anyone else might have heard or read > anything like this? james >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW > Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. >> > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1373.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. That's alot more than I could find on him after the removal.

Angelyn, in case you want to copy and paste someday, here is how: 1. Highlight what you want to copy 2. Right Click 3. Choose COPY 4. Left Click where you want to paste 5. Right Click 6. Choose PASTE Fran In a message dated 5/23/2006 10:56:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Uh, Fran, I don't know how to copy and paste: I went to google and leaving out the 'parens', typed the URL you sent and had no problems finding the maps. Angelyn

I recommend the book, 1491 New Revelations of The Americas Before Columbus, by Charles C. Mann for anyone interested in the early history of the many, large civilizations in this hemisphere before diseases brought by the Europeans decimated them. It does not address the Choctaw legends but gives their legend about creation of man (Creator breathed life into many primeval pairs of human beings scattered all over the earth) as the foundation of their welcoming attitude toward explorers. -- <[email protected]> wroarlete: There has always been speculation that, originally, our people came from Mexico. If you will look at Aztec and Choctaw art, there are images that are very similar. As an artist, I personally think there could be some truth behind this legend. One of our creation legends says the first people came "from the west". Coming from Mexico, crossing the Miss. River and into the southeast would verify that claim. It's really anybody's guess and it depends on which "expert" you consult. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Winlock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:06 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > I recently read a post on a site, stating:" Did you know that the origin of the Choctaw was in the central american country now known as Belize and that the Aztec kept Choctaws as slaves before they escaped north and eastward." This was the first time I have heard anything even remotely close to the comment. I was wondering if anyone else might have heard or read anything like this? james > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1373.1 Message Board Post: Josiah S. Doak was a WHITE resident among the Choctaws, and he did indeed serve the Choctaw people well. He signed the 1830 treaty, and he ( along with others) made a trip west to the Indian Territory ( present day Oklahoma) for the Choctaw before removal. His trip was from October 10th to December of 1830. This trip was to look at the proposed land that the Choctaw would be settled on when they removed fromt he east. Because of his service to the Choctaw people he was given a land reserve by the 1830 treaty and he also witnessed the 1837 Choctaw - Chickasaw treaty at Doaksville in 1837. In 1847 Josiah was living at Holly Springs, Mississippi. Four years later ( 1851) he was residing at Boonesboro, Arkansas ( there, on June 22, 1844 a daughter , Mal. D. Doak was married to George W. Clark of Van Buren, Arkansas). Applications for enrollment were probably denied because although Josiah had served the Choctaw people well, and was respected by them, and lived long among them,he did not have Choctaw blood by birth, and if any of his children or grandchildren did have some degree of Choctaw blood, via intermarriages, they could not prove it to the satisfaction of the enrollment commission. Josiah does appear on the Armstrong Roll .The Armstrong Roll was really a census taken to see how many Choctaw the government would be removing. Although it is an Indian census, it also includes any whites who lived in the Choctaw Nation East at that time. Because Josiah appears on the census simply means he was living among the Choctaw at that time, but it does not mean that he was Chocaw or carried Choctaw blood. Sources: 1 Who Was Who Among the Southern Indians 1698 - 1907, by Martini, published 1998, pages 185, 186 2 Choctaw Emigration ( microfilm) roll 185, frame 68 3 Choctaw Reserves ( microfilm) roll 189 frame 256, roll 190, frame 144, roll 191, frame 316 4 Payments from the Chickasaw Fund ( Oklahoma Historical Society) 5 Marriages and Deaths from Mississippi Newspapers 1837 - 1863, by Wiltshire, page 79

Angelyn, try typing by hand, just what is in the parenthesis, instead of copying and pasting. Fran In a message dated 5/23/2006 9:02:17 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hmmm. Must be the parenthesis 'symbols', Fran. COX seems adverse in letting me access this particular Indian Land Cessions map. Angelyn Thanks for trying!!!

Uh, Fran, I don't know how to copy and paste: I went to google and leaving out the 'parens', typed the URL you sent and had no problems finding the maps. Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: > > Angelyn, try typing by hand, just what is in the parenthesis, instead of > copying and pasting. > > > Fran > > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 9:02:17 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hmmm. Must be the parenthesis 'symbols', Fran. COX seems adverse in letting > me access this particular Indian Land Cessions map. > > Angelyn > > Thanks for trying!!! > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Markie and Fay's Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm >

_Indian Land Cessions Maps and Treaties in Arkansas, Indian Territory and Oklahoma, Louisiana, Missouri, and Texas. Indian Tre._ (http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/) Angelyn, see if this works better for you. Fran Bolton

Angelyn, I just checked this, and it works fine for me. Perhaps you are copying the extra symbols at the beginning and end. I don't know why those were added, or why it was repeated twice. I'll try to copy and paste it more exactly, and see if it is sent any differently this time: _http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/_ (http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/) Fran Bolton In a message dated 5/23/2006 8:37:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I tried the URL below and got "This page cannot be found". Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: > James, check out this map site to see where Indian Territory was in AR: > _http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/_ > (http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/) > > Fran Bolton

The Oklahoman newspaper, Tuesday 23 May 2006, front page story: Marietta, OK. For a solid hour after his funeral Monday, friends and family, fellow American Indians, teachers and classmates filed past the open casket of Hatak Yuka Keyu Martin Yearby. One by one, the mourners looked at the young man in his Marine dress uniform. Some put their hands over their mouths and walked away, while others touched his face or chest, then left in tears. One woman rubbed his head, then rubbed hers, as if to take a part of him with her. As honor guards from the U.S. Marine Corps stood at attention, the mourners filed past the casket before leaving the Marietta High School auditorium, where about 1,000 came to celebrate the life of a young newlywed, a Choctaw Indian, a proud Marine. Yearby, 21, was killed by a roadside bomb on Mother's Day - two months after arriving in Iraq. The service was meant to celebrate Yearby's life and with dozens of attendees standing in the packed auditorium, those who spoke managed to garner laughs at Yearby's youthful ways: at how he loved to hunt, but never came back with anything; how he played tricks and won dancing awards at pow-wows; appeared on a magazine for Upward Bound because of a headdress he made from a T-shirt. Yearby lived in Overbrook, in northen Love County, until the day he joined the Marines. He graduated from Marietta High School in 2003 where his athletic talents shined. At one point, nine of his friedsn - known as "The Boys" - stood on stage to remember Yearby. Jake Barber spoke for them, pausing several times to regain his composure. "Many great words describe Hatak. The only real word you need to say is 'brother' ", said Barber, who recounted a few classic stories and said Yearby would always have a spot at their tables. "He will always be known to us as the ace of spades, the most important card in the deck", Barber said. "He touched us so dearly that words cannot explain.". A cadre of about 150 so-called Patriot Guards on motorcycles showed up to pay respect. Later, police and firefighters stood at attention as the procession left the auditorium for the gravesite. The Rev. Tim Emmons spoke of Yearby's three worlds - his life in Marietta, his life as a Choctaw and his life in the military - and how he balanced them with spirituality. He told of Yearby dancing with grace and compassion, with discipline and free spirit - "the way he lived his life.". "He had a desire to be in the military since he was a young boy. And he believed in what he was doing. He was a warriior, and he was a hero and he finished the course.". Emmons told Lindsey Michelle, Yearby's wife, that she helped him fulfill his dream of being a husband. Soon after they married, he was shipped off to Iraq. In the auditorium lobby were several photo displays. One read: "My husband. My World." and included wedding photos and a moment of affection between the couple, with him in uniform. By Penny Cockerell, Oklahoman Staff Writer

I too like this theory.....I had just never heard it before...I would really like to read more about it, if anyone could recommend anything......James ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins >I like this 'theory' much better than the one about our ancestors coming >from Mongolia! > > Angelyn > > ---- [email protected] wrote: >> There has always been speculation that, originally, our people came from >> Mexico. If you will look at Aztec and Choctaw art, there are images that >> are very similar. As an artist, I personally think there could be some >> truth behind this legend. One of our creation legends says the first >> people >> came "from the west". Coming from Mexico, crossing the Miss. River and >> into >> the southeast would verify that claim. It's really anybody's guess and >> it >> depends on which "expert" you consult. >> >> dusty >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Matthew Winlock" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:06 PM >> Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins >> >> >> > I recently read a post on a site, stating:" Did you know that the >> > origin >> of the Choctaw was in the central american country now known as Belize >> and >> that the Aztec kept Choctaws as slaves before they escaped north and >> eastward." This was the first time I have heard anything even remotely >> close >> to the comment. I was wondering if anyone else might have heard or read >> anything like this? james >> > >> > >> > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at >> http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW >> Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. >> > >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the >> list. Write to me, the listowner, at >> [email protected] >> > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > >

Fran, I went to google, typed the URL you sent and had NO problem! Angelyn

Hmmm. Must be the parenthesis 'symbols', Fran. COX seems adverse in letting me access this particular Indian Land Cessions map. Angelyn Thanks for trying!!! ---- [email protected] wrote: > _Indian Land Cessions Maps and Treaties in Arkansas, Indian Territory and > Oklahoma, Louisiana, Missouri, and Texas. Indian Tre._ > (http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/) > > Angelyn, see if this works better for you. > Fran Bolton > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. >

Nope, Fran, I tried again and got the same message. I clicked the first URL. It could be, though, as you suggested, the symbol following the / distorts the URL. I'll try again. Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: > > Angelyn, I just checked this, and it works fine for me. > Perhaps you are copying the extra symbols at the beginning and end. I don't > know why those were added, or why it was repeated twice. I'll try to copy and > paste it more exactly, and see if it is sent any differently this time: > _http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/_ > (http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/) > > Fran Bolton > > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 8:37:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I tried the URL below and got "This page cannot be found". > > Angelyn > > ---- [email protected] wrote: > > James, check out this map site to see where Indian Territory was in AR: > > _http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/_ > > (http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ms-west/) > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] >