Jane, Some years ago you could view the actual lists at this site: http://www.archives.gov/index.html I haven't done it in a while but as far as I know you still can. HTH -----Original Message----- From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees Thank you, though I was asking for the micro fish ones. That was where my daughter said she found Ralph roll number before. She lost the info because of a hard drive failure. On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is the census cards > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php > > This is the Roll index > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > HTH > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > Do you have a link please for looking in Daws rolls? > > Jane > > > On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of the card > > to > > make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards and > that > > is > > most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two other > > people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out to be > > his > > parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the female. > > > > Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not listed > on > > the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been inrolled. > > The > > only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. And she > is > > listed as intermarried white. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are > > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also > > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also > listed > > as > > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. > > > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in > 1878, > > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt > > that > > is > > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and > > Searle > > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if > > there > > > > is > > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > > > info. > > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It > > can > > > > be > > > > viewed > > at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted > by > > > > the > > > > email address provided. > > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't > > forget > > > > to > > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results > > that > > > > list > > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > > ou > > > > rce,notes > > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > > AND lname_id= > > > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > > Sex: M > > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, > > Texas, > > > > who > > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > > NAIL search > > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 > this > > > > year. > > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > > > Searle > > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, > > Irene > > > > at > > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > > lessons, > > > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jane > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to > the > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list...write to me at [email protected] > > > > > > > -- > Jane > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, > lookups, articles, etc. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > -- Jane ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. Send msg. to [email protected] Put "one" word in "body" of message:... 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Thank you, though I was asking for the micro fish ones. That was where my daughter said she found Ralph roll number before. She lost the info because of a hard drive failure. On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is the census cards > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php > > This is the Roll index > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > HTH > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > Do you have a link please for looking in Daws rolls? > > Jane > > > On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of the card > > to > > make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards and > that > > is > > most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two other > > people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out to be > > his > > parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the female. > > > > Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not listed > on > > the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been inrolled. > > The > > only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. And she > is > > listed as intermarried white. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are > > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also > > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also > listed > > as > > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. > > > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in > 1878, > > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt > > that > > is > > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and > > Searle > > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if > > there > > > > is > > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > > > info. > > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It > > can > > > > be > > > > viewed > > at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted > by > > > > the > > > > email address provided. > > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't > > forget > > > > to > > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results > > that > > > > list > > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > > ou > > > > rce,notes > > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > > AND lname_id= > > > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > > Sex: M > > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, > > Texas, > > > > who > > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > > NAIL search > > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 > this > > > > year. > > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > > > Searle > > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, > > Irene > > > > at > > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > > lessons, > > > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jane > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to > the > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list...write to me at [email protected] > > > > > > > -- > Jane > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, > lookups, articles, etc. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > -- Jane

This is the census cards http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php This is the Roll index http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php HTH -----Original Message----- From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees Do you have a link please for looking in Daws rolls? Jane On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of the card > to > make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards and that > is > most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two other > people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out to be > his > parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the female. > > Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not listed on > the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been inrolled. > The > only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. And she is > listed as intermarried white. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed > as > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt > that > is > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and > Searle > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if > there > > > is > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > > info. > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It > can > > > be > > > viewed > at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > > the > > > email address provided. > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't > forget > > > to > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results > that > > > list > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > ou > > > rce,notes > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > AND lname_id= > > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > Sex: M > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, > Texas, > > > who > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > NAIL search > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > > year. > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > > Searle > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, > Irene > > > at > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > lessons, > > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > -- > Jane > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at [email protected] > > -- Jane ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc.

LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if there is another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any info. There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It can be viewed at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by the email address provided. Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't forget to put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results that list the surname in alpha order. Fran Bolton In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Database = Native American DataSELECT surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,sou rce,notes FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' AND lname_id= surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' Native American Data for Isaac Ralph Name: *Ralph, Isaac* Tribe: Choctaw Record Type: enrollment Sex: M Enrollment Type: P (Parent) Card No.: 5712 Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, who compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search site<http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this year. She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was Searle David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene at the same address in the 1930's census records. Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please?

Do you have a link please for looking in Daws rolls? Jane On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of the card > to > make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards and that > is > most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two other > people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out to be > his > parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the female. > > Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not listed on > the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been inrolled. > The > only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. And she is > listed as intermarried white. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed > as > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt > that > is > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and > Searle > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if > there > > > is > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > > info. > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It > can > > > be > > > viewed > at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > > the > > > email address provided. > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't > forget > > > to > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results > that > > > list > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > ou > > > rce,notes > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > AND lname_id= > > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > Sex: M > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, > Texas, > > > who > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > NAIL search > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > > year. > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > > Searle > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, > Irene > > > at > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > lessons, > > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > -- > Jane > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at [email protected] > > -- Jane

Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of the card to make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards and that is most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two other people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out to be his parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the female. Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not listed on the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been inrolled. The only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. And she is listed as intermarried white. -----Original Message----- From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed as Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt that is > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and Searle > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if there > > is > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > info. > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It can > > be > > viewed at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > the > > email address provided. > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't forget > > to > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results that > > list > > the surname in alpha order. > > Fran Bolton > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s ou > > rce,notes > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > AND lname_id= > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > Tribe: Choctaw > > Record Type: enrollment > > Sex: M > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, > > who > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > year. > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > Searle > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene > > at > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected]

Others with this Family: Surname First Name Type Sex Age Blood % Ralph Isaac P (Parent) M Ralph Jane P (Parent) F Standley Frank P (Parent) M Standley Silvia P (Parent) F Standley Ella BB (By Blood) F 26 IW Standley James Franklin BB (By Blood) M 22 1/8 Standley James Franklin BB (By Blood) M 22 18 On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > It looks like Ella was the child of Frank and Silvia Standley. > > Jane > > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are > > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also > > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed as > > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. > > > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in > > > 1878, he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt > > > that is a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, > > > and Searle Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if > > > > there is > > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > > > info. > > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It > > > > can be > > > > viewed at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted > > > > by the > > > > email address provided. > > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't > > > > forget to > > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results > > > > that list > > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,sou > > > > rce,notes > > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > > AND lname_id= > > > > surnames.id and tribe_id= tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > > Sex: M > > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, > > > > Texas, who > > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > > > > NAIL search > > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 > > > > this year. > > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > > > Searle > > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, > > > > Irene at > > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > > > > lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane

It looks like Ella was the child of Frank and Silvia Standley. Jane On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed as > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt that is > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and Searle > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if > > > there is > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > > info. > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It > > > can be > > > viewed at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > > the > > > email address provided. > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't > > > forget to > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results > > > that list > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,sou > > > rce,notes > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > AND lname_id= > > > surnames.id and tribe_id= tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > Sex: M > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, > > > Texas, who > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > > > NAIL search > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > > year. > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > > Searle > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, > > > Irene at > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > > > lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane

Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed as Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt that is > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and Searle > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if there > > is > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > info. > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It can > > be > > viewed at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > the > > email address provided. > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't forget > > to > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results that > > list > > the surname in alpha order. > > Fran Bolton > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,sou > > rce,notes > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > AND lname_id= > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > Tribe: Choctaw > > Record Type: enrollment > > Sex: M > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, > > who > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > year. > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > Searle > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene > > at > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane

Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt that is a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and Searle Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. On 5/24/06, [email protected] <Jfrb[email protected]> wrote: > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if there is > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any info. > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It can be > viewed at: > http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by the > email address provided. > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't forget > to > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results that > list > the surname in alpha order. > Fran Bolton > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,sou > rce,notes > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > AND lname_id= > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > Tribe: Choctaw > Record Type: enrollment > Sex: M > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > Card No.: 5712 > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, > who > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search > site<http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > year. > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > Searle > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene at > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > articles, etc. > > -- Jane

Jane I'm just telling you about the people list on Choctaw Card # 5712 Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > Tribe: Choctaw > Record Type: enrollment > Sex: M > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > Card No.: 5712 This Isaac Ralph is listed as a parent to Ella who is listed as intermarried white. These people were living in Indian Territory (what is now Oklahoma) The Isaac and Jane Ralph are listed as parents. HTH -----Original Message----- From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees No my daughter and I looked it up and found that both Isaac and Jane Ralph were 100% in blood. My mother wrote a letter that I still have explaining some of it. She states that my great grandmother died in child birth. That is very plausible because we have had great difficulties at times in child births. She went on to say that my great grandparents were from the indian territories. That when my great grandmother died, my grandfather took all the children to fla. He adopted out the 5 little ones there in Fla. Then he went to Penn. with my grandfather (no idea about Ella Standley). My grandmother and others in my family have told of family members having been taken and put in the carlisle indian school in Penn.. I am in the process of trying to find any records of that now. That maybe why my great grandfather went to Penn.. Jane On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc > Type > Choctaw Ralph Isaac 0 M 5712 P > Choctaw Ralph Jane 0 F 5712 P > Choctaw Standley Ella 26 F IW 5712 NR SULPHUR BB > Choctaw Standley Frank 0 M 5712 P > Choctaw Standley James Franklin 22 M 1/8 5712 NR SULPHUR BB > Choctaw Standley Silvia 0 F 5712 P > > It looks like James Franklin Standley was 22 and 1/8 Choctaw. His parents > were Frank and Silvia Standley. Ella Standley age 26 was likely his wife > and her parents were likely Isaac and Jane Ralph. This Ella was listed as > intermarried white. So Isaac and Jane Ralph were likely white. Isaac and > Jane are not on the actual card, they are just listed as parents. > > HTH > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > ource,notes > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' AND lname_id= > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > Tribe: Choctaw > Record Type: enrollment > Sex: M > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > Card No.: 5712 > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, > who > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search > site<http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this year. > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was Searle > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene at > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Are there any Blue surnames? > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's > > name? Check our archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > > > > > > -- > Jane > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, > lookups, articles, etc. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, > nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > -- Jane ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc.

No my daughter and I looked it up and found that both Isaac and Jane Ralph were 100% in blood. My mother wrote a letter that I still have explaining some of it. She states that my great grandmother died in child birth. That is very plausible because we have had great difficulties at times in child births. She went on to say that my great grandparents were from the indian territories. That when my great grandmother died, my grandfather took all the children to fla. He adopted out the 5 little ones there in Fla. Then he went to Penn. with my grandfather (no idea about Ella Standley). My grandmother and others in my family have told of family members having been taken and put in the carlisle indian school in Penn.. I am in the process of trying to find any records of that now. That maybe why my great grandfather went to Penn.. Jane On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc > Type > Choctaw Ralph Isaac 0 M 5712 P > Choctaw Ralph Jane 0 F 5712 P > Choctaw Standley Ella 26 F IW 5712 NR SULPHUR BB > Choctaw Standley Frank 0 M 5712 P > Choctaw Standley James Franklin 22 M 1/8 5712 NR SULPHUR BB > Choctaw Standley Silvia 0 F 5712 P > > It looks like James Franklin Standley was 22 and 1/8 Choctaw. His parents > were Frank and Silvia Standley. Ella Standley age 26 was likely his wife > and her parents were likely Isaac and Jane Ralph. This Ella was listed as > intermarried white. So Isaac and Jane Ralph were likely white. Isaac and > Jane are not on the actual card, they are just listed as parents. > > HTH > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > ource,notes > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' AND lname_id= > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > Tribe: Choctaw > Record Type: enrollment > Sex: M > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > Card No.: 5712 > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, > who > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search > site<http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this year. > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was Searle > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene at > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Are there any Blue surnames? > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's > > name? Check our archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > > > > > > -- > Jane > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, > lookups, articles, etc. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, > nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > -- Jane

Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type Choctaw Ralph Isaac 0 M 5712 P Choctaw Ralph Jane 0 F 5712 P Choctaw Standley Ella 26 F IW 5712 NR SULPHUR BB Choctaw Standley Frank 0 M 5712 P Choctaw Standley James Franklin 22 M 1/8 5712 NR SULPHUR BB Choctaw Standley Silvia 0 F 5712 P It looks like James Franklin Standley was 22 and 1/8 Choctaw. His parents were Frank and Silvia Standley. Ella Standley age 26 was likely his wife and her parents were likely Isaac and Jane Ralph. This Ella was listed as intermarried white. So Isaac and Jane Ralph were likely white. Isaac and Jane are not on the actual card, they are just listed as parents. HTH -----Original Message----- From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees Database = Native American DataSELECT surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s ource,notes FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' AND lname_id= surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' Native American Data for Isaac Ralph Name: *Ralph, Isaac* Tribe: Choctaw Record Type: enrollment Sex: M Enrollment Type: P (Parent) Card No.: 5712 Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, who compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search site<http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this year. She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was Searle David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene at the same address in the 1930's census records. Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? On 5/24/06, [email protected]l.com <[email protected]> wrote: > > Are there any Blue surnames? > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's > name? Check our archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > -- Jane ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc.

As you can see, below, Dusty provided the way to find families on Dawes. I checked and there are quite a few people with the surname "Blue". angelyn > From: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 15:21:23 -0500 > To: [email protected] > > Thanks Judy! And when you have name and number, I can give you all family > members on that census card. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:10 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > > > > The latest addition to the rolls at Native American Genealogy > > > > Dawes Roll Index, just the listing of name, roll number, and the page > number from the roll http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > > > This will replace the images that have been on our pages for a long time. > Just a new tool to make your research easier!! > > > > Judy > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, > lookups, articles, etc. > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Markie and Fay's Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm >

Oh and Isaac Ralph was born Aug. 13, 1878. We could not find any info on Jane Ralph any place. Jane On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,source,notes > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' AND lname_id= > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > Tribe: Choctaw > Record Type: enrollment > Sex: M > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > Card No.: 5712 > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, > who compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search > site <http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this year. > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was Searle > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene at > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Are there any Blue surnames? > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's > > name? Check our archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > > > > > > -- > Jane > > -- Jane

Database = Native American DataSELECT surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,source,notes FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' AND lname_id= surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' Native American Data for Isaac Ralph Name: *Ralph, Isaac* Tribe: Choctaw Record Type: enrollment Sex: M Enrollment Type: P (Parent) Card No.: 5712 Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, who compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search site<http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this year. She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was Searle David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene at the same address in the 1930's census records. Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Are there any Blue surnames? > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's > name? Check our archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > -- Jane

Are there any Blue surnames?

From what I can understand, there have been ongoing squabbles over borders between Texas, Okla, La. and Ark. forever, especially between Texas/Okla. The present Arkansas borders were set in 1836 when it became a state. Earlier maps show that 'Ark. Territory' included a lot of what is now Oklahoma. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Indian Territory > Did this territory that the Choctaws received, known as Arkansas Indian > Territory, become part of the present state of Oklahoma or was in lost in > cessions,,,Than You > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:18 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Indian Territory > > > > Mississippi Choctaws received territory in what is now the state of > > Arkansas > > after ceding their original land in Miss. after the Treaty of Doaks Stand. > > This territory was know as "Arkansas Indian Terr." > > > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "April" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Indian Territory > > > > > >> In the 1860 census, Ancestry lists some of Arkansas as "Indian Lands". > >> April > >> > >> James Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> was any part of arkansas or texas ever recognized as Indian Territory? > > Thanks James > >> > >> > >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > >> Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > > articles, etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Yahoo! > > Messenger with Voice. > >> > >> > >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > >> Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list...write to me at [email protected] > >> > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST >

I am an elder in the Mexica Red Tradition, the origin of this dance form, and know something about its history. If you want more information, contact me personally. <[email protected]> Also, I sent a previous email that apparently did not go through about one story that seems to contain a Nahuatl word. Nahuatl is the language that the Aztecs and their descendants speak. If anyone is interested in that data, contact me personally. <[email protected]> Holabitubbe --- [email protected] wrote: > I just got back from Los Angeles visiting my > daughter and we went to a > festival where the Aztec dancers performed. It blew > me away! Very > different dance style than what we're used to at > pow-wows today, and the > regalia was out of this world! I took a whole roll > of pictures and had my > picture taken with the elder. Haven't had them > developed yet! I know they > usually perform at the Gathering of the Nations, but > I've never made it out > there for that one. > > dusty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Matte" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:15 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > > > > Dusty, you are so right! I have researched this > for years and one of the > > best or most plausible accounts is the one > recorded by Gideon Lincecum as > > told to him in the early 1800s by Chata Immataha - > the oldest man in the > > world. The Univ. of Ala. Press has reprinted this > story and that of > > Apushmataha first published by the Mississippi > Historical Association in > > 1906-1909. More about this publication can be > found at the Univ. website > > www.uapress.ua.edu. Insert Gideon Lincecum's name > in author search or > > Pushmataha in title search. I gave my copy of the > original handwritten > > manuscript and a WPA typed copy to Samford > University Special Collections > > Dept. located in Birmingham, AL . His original > copy is in Austin, TX at > the > > University of TX library. > > > > It is a beautiful, lyrical story reflecting the > seasonal movement of the > > Choctaw people over several generations. > > > > We always keep searching! Jackie Matte > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > > > > > > > There has always been speculation that, > originally, our people came from > > > Mexico. If you will look at Aztec and Choctaw > art, there are images > that > > > are very similar. As an artist, I personally > think there could be some > > > truth behind this legend. One of our creation > legends says the first > > > people > > > came "from the west". Coming from Mexico, > crossing the Miss. River and > > > into > > > the southeast would verify that claim. It's > really anybody's guess and > it > > > depends on which "expert" you consult. > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Matthew Winlock" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:06 PM > > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] choctaw origins > > > > > > > > >> I recently read a post on a site, stating:" Did > you know that the > origin > > > of the Choctaw was in the central american > country now known as Belize > > > and > > > that the Aztec kept Choctaws as slaves before > they escaped north and > > > eastward." This was the first time I have heard > anything even remotely > > > close > > > to the comment. I was wondering if anyone else > might have heard or read > > > anything like this? james > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > >> Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html > for CHOCTAW > > > Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land > records, etc. > > >> > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' > WHINE?? Don't post it to > the > > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to > [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... > "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off > signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? > Don't post it to the list...write to me at > [email protected] > > George Ann Gregory, Ph.D. Language Revitalization Specialist Fulbright Scholar PO Box 40184 Albuquerque, NM 87196 http://www.geocities.com/hoanumpoli http://www.drgrammarguru.com Halito Osiyo Cualli Tonalli Tena koe Iorana

Dusty , do you know of any site that I might exchange information about "shape shifters" and/or any "Ghost" stories among the Choctaws....I remember all the old stories that were told by my Grandmother and her sister, both 4/4 degree Choctaws....Now I know that one of the stories they told would be considered a story about shape shifting. Althought they never said that and only recently did I realize it. Thanks James