I don't have information for you....just a spelling correction. It's Eufaula, OK. Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: MILL > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1385 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for a Frank B. (Frank I.) Miller b.abt 1887 > > Married Pearl Dunn 1910 in OK > > Married Ella Snow 1920 in Eulafia,OK > > Any info on these people will be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you. Virginia > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1386 Message Board Post: Hello, Do you have any info on #50 William Smith. Thank You, Joanne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MILL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1385 Message Board Post: Looking for a Frank B. (Frank I.) Miller b.abt 1887 Married Pearl Dunn 1910 in OK Married Ella Snow 1920 in Eulafia,OK Any info on these people will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Virginia

Halito Everyone: Here is a link to "The Native American Rights Fund" where you can look up the history of the Cobell Case. You can also Google Gail Norton and One Nation to get her history with that organization. http://www.narf.org/ This is a web that the NARF set up with all the info on the case. It includes the fact that Gail Norton gave orders to destroy records. http://www.indiantrust.com/ I hope this helps anyone who might be interested. Imafo --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out.

Halito Pearl: I have seen a number of census applications and they give considerable genealogical info. It is well worth the investment. You will probably discover parents, grandparents names and whom they claimed under, i.e. where the blood came from. Imafo [email protected] wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lankford, Lacey, Choate Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1378.3.3 Message Board Post: I am also confused. Maybe you could help. How do you know that this is Ella's family? (Christopher c Choate census card). Was John Lacey Ella's biological father? Was Christopher Choate Ella's biological father? Or was Amanda Lankford Ella's biological mother? I have also been at a dead end for quite some time with this. Oliver and Bertha Lankford (Ella's Children) are listed as 1/8 on the Dawes. How do you find out where the blood came from? Have you ever seen a census card application? I am going to start searching on Lewis, Jacob, and joseph armstrong. We'll see where that gets me... Ha ha... Thanks for all your help, Pearl. ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to [email protected] Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.

I suspected he was enrolled. Good job. [email protected] wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1384.1 Message Board Post: I have two different sources of information for a possible connection. Wilkin Wilson 24yro 4/4 degree Choctaw roll# 2256 Smithville, Choctaw Nation, I.T. Susanna Wilson 22yro 4/4 degree Choctaw roll# 2557 on the same census card: Liza Wilson ( P ) Aleck Wilson ( P ) Sila Taylor (P) John Taylor (P) ( P ) indicates parent On another source the same census card # 951 Witkin Wilson roll # 2256 Susanna Wilson roll# 2257 The sources I used is information from the NAIL , that has been transcribed. In the Dawes Enrollment Book....it is spelled Witkin Wilson. I suggest that you write the Oklahoma Historical Society and request a photocopy of the original Choctaw census card # 951...this will give you , in many cases alot of information. I believe the photocopies are $3.00. If you would like me to send you the transcribed information that I obtained this data from, let me know. James Brown ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Halito Dana: The National Archives might have some info on this person. The Retirement home might possibly have been operated by the Education division of The Bureau of Indian Affairs. The Medical Division was operated by the Educational Division until 1924, when the bureau created the Medical Division. You might want to check the National Archives web. There is also the possibility that the home was operated by the Choctaw Nation, in which case you would have to check with them. Since he was in a home in the Choctaw Nation, he was probably enrolled. You will probably have to track some more of his genealogy to see which surname he is enrolled under. Good luck. Imafo [email protected] wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1384 Message Board Post: Hello all. My mom recently uncovered that name of an ancestor who is reportedly Choctaw. He was born in Kentucky and lived in Illinois. He died in Oklahoma in a retirement home. His name was Wilkin Wilson. I have searched the rolls and not found his name. The 1900 census has him as Choctaw Nation Township 2. I don't completely understand that. I'm am just starting this adventure. I'm not sure really to go from here. Could someone maybe point me in any direction. Or does someone recognize his name? Any help would be greatly appreciated. This has been kind of a mystery for a long time and darn it I'm going to solve it! Thank you, Dana ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Markie and Fay's Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lankford, Lacey, Choate Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1378.3.3 Message Board Post: I am also confused. Maybe you could help. How do you know that this is Ella's family? (Christopher c Choate census card). Was John Lacey Ella's biological father? Was Christopher Choate Ella's biological father? Or was Amanda Lankford Ella's biological mother? I have also been at a dead end for quite some time with this. Oliver and Bertha Lankford (Ella's Children) are listed as 1/8 on the Dawes. How do you find out where the blood came from? Have you ever seen a census card application? I am going to start searching on Lewis, Jacob, and joseph armstrong. We'll see where that gets me... Ha ha... Thanks for all your help, Pearl.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1384.1 Message Board Post: I have two different sources of information for a possible connection. Wilkin Wilson 24yro 4/4 degree Choctaw roll# 2256 Smithville, Choctaw Nation, I.T. Susanna Wilson 22yro 4/4 degree Choctaw roll# 2557 on the same census card: Liza Wilson ( P ) Aleck Wilson ( P ) Sila Taylor (P) John Taylor (P) ( P ) indicates parent On another source the same census card # 951 Witkin Wilson roll # 2256 Susanna Wilson roll# 2257 The sources I used is information from the NAIL , that has been transcribed. In the Dawes Enrollment Book....it is spelled Witkin Wilson. I suggest that you write the Oklahoma Historical Society and request a photocopy of the original Choctaw census card # 951...this will give you , in many cases alot of information. I believe the photocopies are $3.00. If you would like me to send you the transcribed information that I obtained this data from, let me know. James Brown

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1384 Message Board Post: Hello all. My mom recently uncovered that name of an ancestor who is reportedly Choctaw. He was born in Kentucky and lived in Illinois. He died in Oklahoma in a retirement home. His name was Wilkin Wilson. I have searched the rolls and not found his name. The 1900 census has him as Choctaw Nation Township 2. I don't completely understand that. I'm am just starting this adventure. I'm not sure really to go from here. Could someone maybe point me in any direction. Or does someone recognize his name? Any help would be greatly appreciated. This has been kind of a mystery for a long time and darn it I'm going to solve it! Thank you, Dana

Halito James: I have to see if I have it in the hard copies of my records. I will have all of those records soon. If my memory serves me correctly, however, I believe I had gotten the information from the web site of the attorneys handling the case, which I believe is the American Indians Rights group. If you go to that site I believe you will probably be able to confirm this. Let me know if I am correct so that I can try to help you further. Imafo James Brown <[email protected]> wrote: Richard, I print various information from Dusty's site for my files. Would you mind forwarding the sources of this additional information you have provided, so I can note in on your post as the documented source? Thank you for the additional comments......James Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wilson" To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > Dusty: > > Thank you for the info. These articles give a good summary of what > has occurred. They, however do not mention that the government was also > held in contempt for destroying records. The people who destroyed the > records were not fired and charged with a crime; but instead were > promoted. You are also right in saying that whites had much of the scrip. > The agent my ancestor, John Harper (Hopiah) applied to, was in league with > 2 attorneys who were speculators in Indian land. It was known that he > would deny people who appeared full blooded because he believed they were > easier to swindle. He would then sell the scrip to the attorneys who would > then sell it to whites. This is why there were so many whites on Choctaw > land before they even arrived in Oklahoma. This can't be challenged in > court, because the congress has closed that option off to us. The > government protects itself and corporate interests from damage they have > done to our ancestors and to us. > Another thing the articles do not mention is that former secretary > to the Interior, Gale Norton, was formerly the attorney for the group, > "One Nation", which is dedicated to the elimination of the Tribes, > scattering the people to the wind and the taking over of the land and > resources by corporations. She is a continued supporter of this group . > > > Imafo > > [email protected] wrote: > Also be aware that a lot of Indians sold, traded or otherwise transferred > their land script to devious Anglos indulging in the act of "Grafting". If > this is the case, usually the records you get from the BLM will give the > white's name with"agent for...", or "acting as agent for" and then the > Choctaw's name that the script was issued in. We discussed the practice of > Grafting at length a couple of years ago, so those posts should be > available > in the Archives. Go to: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > and type in "Grafting" where it says "query". You'll have to do it year by > year, but you should get some hits. > > dusty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > > >> >> Cyndi, I have no name to check the BLM GLO site, but I did find this >> interesting info: >> >> _http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm_ >> (http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm) >> >> which says: >> " Unfortunately, since the release of the Arkansas land records on CD Rom > by >> the BLM, many people are confused into believing that their ancestors >> were >> Choctaw, simply because the ancestor used Choctaw Script to purchase land > in >> that state, and the name of the Indian is listed in the records". >> So, it they are not on the BLM GLO Internet site, they are on the CD. >> Sincerely, >> Fran Bolton >> In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:19:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be > shown >> on the BLM web site. Does anyone know if the land is on the web site but > it >> just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? >> >> Thank you >> Cyndi >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] >> > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? 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Richard, I print various information from Dusty's site for my files. Would you mind forwarding the sources of this additional information you have provided, so I can note in on your post as the documented source? Thank you for the additional comments......James Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wilson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > Dusty: > > Thank you for the info. These articles give a good summary of what > has occurred. They, however do not mention that the government was also > held in contempt for destroying records. The people who destroyed the > records were not fired and charged with a crime; but instead were > promoted. You are also right in saying that whites had much of the scrip. > The agent my ancestor, John Harper (Hopiah) applied to, was in league with > 2 attorneys who were speculators in Indian land. It was known that he > would deny people who appeared full blooded because he believed they were > easier to swindle. He would then sell the scrip to the attorneys who would > then sell it to whites. This is why there were so many whites on Choctaw > land before they even arrived in Oklahoma. This can't be challenged in > court, because the congress has closed that option off to us. The > government protects itself and corporate interests from damage they have > done to our ancestors and to us. > Another thing the articles do not mention is that former secretary > to the Interior, Gale Norton, was formerly the attorney for the group, > "One Nation", which is dedicated to the elimination of the Tribes, > scattering the people to the wind and the taking over of the land and > resources by corporations. She is a continued supporter of this group . > > > Imafo > > [email protected] wrote: > Also be aware that a lot of Indians sold, traded or otherwise transferred > their land script to devious Anglos indulging in the act of "Grafting". If > this is the case, usually the records you get from the BLM will give the > white's name with"agent for...", or "acting as agent for" and then the > Choctaw's name that the script was issued in. We discussed the practice of > Grafting at length a couple of years ago, so those posts should be > available > in the Archives. Go to: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > and type in "Grafting" where it says "query". You'll have to do it year by > year, but you should get some hits. > > dusty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > > >> >> Cyndi, I have no name to check the BLM GLO site, but I did find this >> interesting info: >> >> _http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm_ >> (http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm) >> >> which says: >> " Unfortunately, since the release of the Arkansas land records on CD Rom > by >> the BLM, many people are confused into believing that their ancestors >> were >> Choctaw, simply because the ancestor used Choctaw Script to purchase land > in >> that state, and the name of the Indian is listed in the records". >> So, it they are not on the BLM GLO Internet site, they are on the CD. >> Sincerely, >> Fran Bolton >> In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:19:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be > shown >> on the BLM web site. Does anyone know if the land is on the web site but > it >> just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? >> >> Thank you >> Cyndi >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] >> > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > articles, etc. > >

Also be aware that a lot of Indians sold, traded or otherwise transferred their land script to devious Anglos indulging in the act of "Grafting". If this is the case, usually the records you get from the BLM will give the white's name with"agent for...", or "acting as agent for" and then the Choctaw's name that the script was issued in. We discussed the practice of Grafting at length a couple of years ago, so those posts should be available in the Archives. Go to: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST and type in "Grafting" where it says "query". You'll have to do it year by year, but you should get some hits. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > > Cyndi, I have no name to check the BLM GLO site, but I did find this > interesting info: > > _http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm_ > (http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm) > > which says: > " Unfortunately, since the release of the Arkansas land records on CD Rom by > the BLM, many people are confused into believing that their ancestors were > Choctaw, simply because the ancestor used Choctaw Script to purchase land in > that state, and the name of the Indian is listed in the records". > So, it they are not on the BLM GLO Internet site, they are on the CD. > Sincerely, > Fran Bolton > In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:19:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be shown > on the BLM web site. Does anyone know if the land is on the web site but it > just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? > > Thank you > Cyndi > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] >

Dusty: Thank you for the info. These articles give a good summary of what has occurred. They, however do not mention that the government was also held in contempt for destroying records. The people who destroyed the records were not fired and charged with a crime; but instead were promoted. You are also right in saying that whites had much of the scrip. The agent my ancestor, John Harper (Hopiah) applied to, was in league with 2 attorneys who were speculators in Indian land. It was known that he would deny people who appeared full blooded because he believed they were easier to swindle. He would then sell the scrip to the attorneys who would then sell it to whites. This is why there were so many whites on Choctaw land before they even arrived in Oklahoma. This can't be challenged in court, because the congress has closed that option off to us. The government protects itself and corporate interests from damage they have done to our ancestors and to us. Another thing the articles do not mention is that former secretary to the Interior, Gale Norton, was formerly the attorney for the group, "One Nation", which is dedicated to the elimination of the Tribes, scattering the people to the wind and the taking over of the land and resources by corporations. She is a continued supporter of this group . Imafo [email protected] wrote: Also be aware that a lot of Indians sold, traded or otherwise transferred their land script to devious Anglos indulging in the act of "Grafting". If this is the case, usually the records you get from the BLM will give the white's name with"agent for...", or "acting as agent for" and then the Choctaw's name that the script was issued in. We discussed the practice of Grafting at length a couple of years ago, so those posts should be available in the Archives. Go to: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST and type in "Grafting" where it says "query". You'll have to do it year by year, but you should get some hits. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > > Cyndi, I have no name to check the BLM GLO site, but I did find this > interesting info: > > _http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm_ > (http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm) > > which says: > " Unfortunately, since the release of the Arkansas land records on CD Rom by > the BLM, many people are confused into believing that their ancestors were > Choctaw, simply because the ancestor used Choctaw Script to purchase land in > that state, and the name of the Indian is listed in the records". > So, it they are not on the BLM GLO Internet site, they are on the CD. > Sincerely, > Fran Bolton > In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:19:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be shown > on the BLM web site. Does anyone know if the land is on the web site but it > just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? > > Thank you > Cyndi > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Dusty, I would like to read those articles also in their entirety if you would send them to me. Thanks, Kennard ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 07/13/2006 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script >I would be interested in reading the article. Thank you in advance. > > Kim >> >> From: "James Brown" <[email protected]> >> Date: 2006/07/13 Thu AM 11:29:37 EDT >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script >> >> Dusty i would like to read those articles in their entirety if you would >> send to me. Thanks...James >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:22 AM >> Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script >> >> >> > I'm not sure what's going on with the BLM site nowadays, with the >> > present >> > court battle. I know it was shut down completely for a while, but is >> > now >> > back open. I got a notice a few days ago that Judge Royce Lamberth has >> > been >> > replaced because, as the panel of judges for the Court of Appeals of >> > the >> > District of Columbia Circuit found, he had "lost his objectivity" when >> > he >> > sided with the Indians and found Interior Secretaries Gale Norton and >> > Bruce >> > Babbitt in contempt of court for their handling of the case. This has >> > drug >> > out for the last ten years and may take many more. >> > >> > If anyone wants to read the whole articles, write to me and I'll send >> > you >> > copies. >> > >> > dusty >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:18 AM >> > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script >> > >> > >> >> I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be >> > shown on the BLM website. Does anyone know if the land is on the >> > website >> > but >> > it just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> Cyndi >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> >> Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to >> >> the >> > list...write to me at [email protected] >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to >> > the >> > list. Write to me, the listowner, at >> > [email protected] >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >> Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at >> http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW >> Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. >> >> > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > > >

Does anyone know if the land that appears on the BLM website is Indian Script land but cannot reflect this fact? Also, what is the court case regarding, please? Thank you Cyndi -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected] > I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be shown on > the BLM website. Does anyone know if the land is on the website but it just does > not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? > > Thank you > Cyndi > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at [email protected] >

Cyndi, I have no name to check the BLM GLO site, but I did find this interesting info: _http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm_ (http://www.ndnweb.com/choctawremoval.htm) which says: " Unfortunately, since the release of the Arkansas land records on CD Rom by the BLM, many people are confused into believing that their ancestors were Choctaw, simply because the ancestor used Choctaw Script to purchase land in that state, and the name of the Indian is listed in the records". So, it they are not on the BLM GLO Internet site, they are on the CD. Sincerely, Fran Bolton In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:19:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be shown on the BLM web site. Does anyone know if the land is on the web site but it just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? Thank you Cyndi

I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be shown on the BLM website. Does anyone know if the land is on the website but it just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? Thank you Cyndi

I would like to read this also. Please send me a copy when you send the others. Thanks Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script I'm not sure what's going on with the BLM site nowadays, with the present court battle. I know it was shut down completely for a while, but is now back open. I got a notice a few days ago that Judge Royce Lamberth has been replaced because, as the panel of judges for the Court of Appeals of the District of Columbia Circuit found, he had "lost his objectivity" when he sided with the Indians and found Interior Secretaries Gale Norton and Bruce Babbitt in contempt of court for their handling of the case. This has drug out for the last ten years and may take many more. If anyone wants to read the whole articles, write to me and I'll send you copies. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be shown on the BLM website. Does anyone know if the land is on the website but it just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? > > Thank you > Cyndi > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to > the list...write to me at [email protected] > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected]

I would be interested in reading the article. Thank you in advance. Kim > > From: "James Brown" <[email protected]> > Date: 2006/07/13 Thu AM 11:29:37 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > > Dusty i would like to read those articles in their entirety if you would > send to me. Thanks...James > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:22 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > > > > I'm not sure what's going on with the BLM site nowadays, with the present > > court battle. I know it was shut down completely for a while, but is now > > back open. I got a notice a few days ago that Judge Royce Lamberth has > > been > > replaced because, as the panel of judges for the Court of Appeals of the > > District of Columbia Circuit found, he had "lost his objectivity" when he > > sided with the Indians and found Interior Secretaries Gale Norton and > > Bruce > > Babbitt in contempt of court for their handling of the case. This has > > drug > > out for the last ten years and may take many more. > > > > If anyone wants to read the whole articles, write to me and I'll send you > > copies. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:18 AM > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Land Script > > > > > >> I have been told that no land that involves Indian land script can be > > shown on the BLM website. Does anyone know if the land is on the website > > but > > it just does not mention the fact that it was Indian land script? > >> > >> Thank you > >> Cyndi > >> > >> > >> ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > >> Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list...write to me at [email protected] > >> > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > >