I see some of my Choctaw names and sure would like to know how to get the info on them ( and what the names are listed for !! ) Deana On 8/21/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > ToAll: > > Yesterday I received a message through another list that a huge collection > of private manuscripts, letters, deeds, bills and copies of court records > entitled the "Natchez Trace Small Manuscript Collection" has been sold by a > private Mississippi collector to the University of Texas at Austin. I was > told that the Mississippi State Archives personnel were quite upset that > they could not afford to purchase this collection, which took many > 18-wheeler trucks to move it to the Austin university library. Anyone > investigating their Choctaw (and other) ancestors in Mississippi, Alabama or > anywhere along the Natchez Trace may benefit from this collection newly made > available to the public. The Natchez Trace was an ancient trail used by the > Choctaw, Chickasaw, Cherokee and other Indians. It runs 440 miles > connecting the southern portions of the Mississippi River Delta to salt > licks in today's central Tennessee. "The Natchez Trace experienced its > heaviest use from 1785 to 1820 by th! > e "Kaintuck" boatmen that floated the Ohio and Miss. Rivers to markets in > Natchez and New Orleans. They sold their cargo and boats and began the trek > back north enroute to Nashville and points beyond. It was (and still is) a > significant historical trail through Miss., Ala. and Tenn." that was > originally a prehistoric buffalo trail. I've seen some places where this > trail is worn down as much as 20 feet into the ground. It's a fascinating > place to visit for those interested in archeology and paleontology. > > In glancing at the list of papers, letters, etc. in this collection I see > many surnames that were connected to the early Choctaws. You can access an > index of these surnames at: > > http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00140/cah-00140.html#a23 > > dusty > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- CHATA SIA

Yes thank you Dusty I never saw the message in my email. delorra .................................. <[email protected]> writes: >Thanks, Dusty! > >Angelyn > >---- [email protected] wrote: >> ToAll: >> >> Yesterday I received a message through another list that a huge collection of private manuscripts, letters, deeds, bills and copies of court records entitled the "Natchez Trace Small Manuscript Collection" has been sold by a private Mississippi collector to the University of Texas at Austin. I was told that the Mississippi State Archives personnel were quite upset that they could not afford to purchase this collection, which took many 18-wheeler trucks to move it to the Austin university library. Anyone investigating their Choctaw (and other) ancestors in Mississippi, Alabama or anywhere along the Natchez Trace may benefit from this collection newly made available to the public. The Natchez Trace was an ancient trail used by the Choctaw, Chickasaw, Cherokee and other Indians. It runs 440 miles connecting the southern portions of the Mississippi River Delta to salt licks in today's central Tennessee. "The Natchez Trace experienced its heaviest use from 1785 to 1820 by! ! > th! >> e "Kaintuck" boatmen that floated the Ohio and Miss. Rivers to markets in Natchez and New Orleans. They sold their cargo and boats and began the trek back north enroute to Nashville and points beyond. It was (and still is) a significant historical trail through Miss., Ala. and Tenn." that was originally a prehistoric buffalo trail. I've seen some places where this trail is worn down as much as 20 feet into the ground. It's a fascinating place to visit for those interested in archeology and paleontology. >> >> In glancing at the list of papers, letters, etc. in this collection I see many surnames that were connected to the early Choctaws. You can access an index of these surnames at: >> >> http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00140/cah-00140.html#a23 >> >> dusty

Thanks Dusty, for passing this on. I joined this list yesterday and have recently started looking at names in my family as possible indian names. Does anyone have information on these names. Penatha, Pernina and Simantha, I believe are sisters b. in MS around 1832-1838. I believe their maiden names are Leonard. They married Carters and relatives of Carters. Another Carter relative, b. 1808 named his daughters Permelia and Parthenia. He was from Clarke County AL and I believe the daughters were b. in Union Parish LA. Thank you for your time, Sandra Carter Van Wyk ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] New Mississippi Records Available > ToAll: > > Yesterday I received a message through another list that a huge collection > of private manuscripts, letters, deeds, bills and copies of court records > entitled the "Natchez Trace Small Manuscript Collection" has been sold by > a private Mississippi collector to the University of Texas at Austin. I > was told that the Mississippi State Archives personnel were quite upset > that they could not afford to purchase this collection, which took many > 18-wheeler trucks to move it to the Austin university library. Anyone > investigating their Choctaw (and other) ancestors in Mississippi, Alabama > or anywhere along the Natchez Trace may benefit from this collection newly > made available to the public. The Natchez Trace was an ancient trail used > by the Choctaw, Chickasaw, Cherokee and other Indians. It runs 440 miles > connecting the southern portions of the Mississippi River Delta to salt > licks in today's central Tennessee. "The Natchez Trace experienced its > heaviest use from 1785 to 1820 by th! > e "Kaintuck" boatmen that floated the Ohio and Miss. Rivers to markets in > Natchez and New Orleans. They sold their cargo and boats and began the > trek back north enroute to Nashville and points beyond. It was (and still > is) a significant historical trail through Miss., Ala. and Tenn." that was > originally a prehistoric buffalo trail. I've seen some places where this > trail is worn down as much as 20 feet into the ground. It's a fascinating > place to visit for those interested in archeology and paleontology. > > In glancing at the list of papers, letters, etc. in this collection I see > many surnames that were connected to the early Choctaws. You can access > an index of these surnames at: > > http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00140/cah-00140.html#a23 > > dusty > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Dusty! Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: > ToAll: > > Yesterday I received a message through another list that a huge collection of private manuscripts, letters, deeds, bills and copies of court records entitled the "Natchez Trace Small Manuscript Collection" has been sold by a private Mississippi collector to the University of Texas at Austin. I was told that the Mississippi State Archives personnel were quite upset that they could not afford to purchase this collection, which took many 18-wheeler trucks to move it to the Austin university library. Anyone investigating their Choctaw (and other) ancestors in Mississippi, Alabama or anywhere along the Natchez Trace may benefit from this collection newly made available to the public. The Natchez Trace was an ancient trail used by the Choctaw, Chickasaw, Cherokee and other Indians. It runs 440 miles connecting the southern portions of the Mississippi River Delta to salt licks in today's central Tennessee. "The Natchez Trace experienced its heaviest use from 1785 to 1820 by ! th! > e "Kaintuck" boatmen that floated the Ohio and Miss. Rivers to markets in Natchez and New Orleans. They sold their cargo and boats and began the trek back north enroute to Nashville and points beyond. It was (and still is) a significant historical trail through Miss., Ala. and Tenn." that was originally a prehistoric buffalo trail. I've seen some places where this trail is worn down as much as 20 feet into the ground. It's a fascinating place to visit for those interested in archeology and paleontology. > > In glancing at the list of papers, letters, etc. in this collection I see many surnames that were connected to the early Choctaws. You can access an index of these surnames at: > > http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00140/cah-00140.html#a23 > > dusty > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ToAll: Yesterday I received a message through another list that a huge collection of private manuscripts, letters, deeds, bills and copies of court records entitled the "Natchez Trace Small Manuscript Collection" has been sold by a private Mississippi collector to the University of Texas at Austin. I was told that the Mississippi State Archives personnel were quite upset that they could not afford to purchase this collection, which took many 18-wheeler trucks to move it to the Austin university library. Anyone investigating their Choctaw (and other) ancestors in Mississippi, Alabama or anywhere along the Natchez Trace may benefit from this collection newly made available to the public. The Natchez Trace was an ancient trail used by the Choctaw, Chickasaw, Cherokee and other Indians. It runs 440 miles connecting the southern portions of the Mississippi River Delta to salt licks in today's central Tennessee. "The Natchez Trace experienced its heaviest use from 1785 to 1820 by the "Kaintuck" boatmen that floated the Ohio and Miss. Rivers to markets in Natchez and New Orleans. They sold their cargo and boats and began the trek back north enroute to Nashville and points beyond. It was (and still is) a significant historical trail through Miss., Ala. and Tenn." that was originally a prehistoric buffalo trail. I've seen some places where this trail is worn down as much as 20 feet into the ground. It's a fascinating place to visit for those interested in archeology and paleontology. In glancing at the list of papers, letters, etc. in this collection I see many surnames that were connected to the early Choctaws. You can access an index of these surnames at: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00140/cah-00140.html#a23 dusty

To all: As most of your know, Rootsweb has initiated a changeover to their new system, called "Mailman". The changeover should go smoothly with only a couple of major changes: AOL users, please check your spam folders and if you find list mail held as spam, you will need to be sure to click the "THIS IS NOT SPAM" link and send the list mail to your curent mailbox. This will 'train' the system to understand that mail from this new server is not spam. Those subscribers that are subscribed to BOTH the mail list and digest list of a single list (either CHOCTAW, CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST or CHAHTA will no longer be able to receive both regular mail list AND digest form at the same address. If you are subscribed to both, please choose which form you want and unsubscribe from the other form. You will no longer have to type the "L" in the address...messages now can be addressed as merely: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] If you have any questions, contact me at: [email protected] Here's hoping all goes well with the changeover. dusty List Admin.

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To All: Rootsweb is making some changes in their delivery system. It looks like our list will be affected August 17 & 18. Please click on the first address and read about the new policies. Thanks! dusty List Admin.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1393.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks. That must be right.

In a message dated 8/15/2006 2:08:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: When I was a young boy visiting Hugo, OK, my father (whose mother was 1/8 by blood) would sometimes go into the old general store of Smith Luton. One would say "Chickama". and the other would answer "Chickama choma". At least that's what it sounded like to me. Is my memory correct? What is the meaning? Thanks for any help. Sounds to me like the Chickasaw, "Chukma?" (or in Choctaw, Chim achukma?, "are you well?") with a reply that could have been "Chukma siah" (Achukma siah) or "I am well." Ron

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1392.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Shakolo = cypress (the 'a' is nasalized so it may sound like an 'n' to an English speaker) tsa li gu is Cherokee, but I don't know wha it means.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1393.1 Message Board Post: Chim achukma? (Are you well?) Achukma hoke (I am well) or A (nasalized), chisnato. (Yes, me too)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1392.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No, I had not rec'd your message, but very glad to do so now. In fact, I have started my own publishing company ("Shongelo Press") and a sign at the gate of my horse ranch in Texas reads - "Shongelo Hill." I really liked the sound of the name, and wanted to keep the word 'alive,' even if it has gone thru some changes over the last couple hundred years. Thanks, again. RWC

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Needham, McMurtry, Brashears Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1393 Message Board Post: When I was a young boy visiting Hugo, OK, my father (whose mother was 1/8 by blood) would sometimes go into the old general store of Smith Luton. One would say "Chickama". and the other would answer "Chickama choma". At least that's what it sounded like to me. Is my memory correct? What is the meaning? Thanks for any help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1392.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Did you receive my message about the Choctaw origin of Shongalo? Yvmma shakolo (with the 'a' underlined) would mean 'that place of cypress trees (since cypress is a kind of tree it is unneccesary in Choctaw to say 'tree') yvmma shakolo laua = that place of many cypress

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1392.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks; yes, I am aware of the Webster Psh nameplace, as well. I'm still in hopes of determining what the Choctaw word(s) are that mean "place of cypress trees" or something like that.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1392.1 Message Board Post: You're probably correct...I live about 15 miles from Shongaloo in Webster Parish, Louisiana and oral tradition around here says that "Shongaloo" is Choctaw for "cypress trees".

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1392 Message Board Post: I'm writing an historical novel of my family in central Mississippi who lived in current day Smith County at a place called 'Shongelo.' I believe this to be an English version of the Choctaw words 'tsa li gu,' or 'place of cypress trees.' I had also heard it came from 'sha ka loo' or something like that. Can someone help me with this phrase? Pls respond to <[email protected]> as I do not have computer set up at home yet. Thanks. Robert Crook Tyler,TX

James, hope you can see that I didn't get the first few words of your first sentence. I gather, though, there was another Loretta in addition to the one now called Texhoma. Angelyn ---- James Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > was changed to Texhoma in Nov. 12, 1901; as there was another Loretta Oklahoma. Very few claims were filed on until the railroad was assured. > > Thanks much for the link! The article doesnt say where the "other" Loretta, Oklahoma was. Any thoughts on this? Any inforamtion you have is appreciated. James > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. >