Halito: This is all very interesting. I have 5 Browns in my line. Sarah Brown was married to my gr Uncle Fielding McNabb. They filed under the Dawes' Commission under different applications which tells me that Sarah filed under her own family. In other words they were both of Choctaw descent. Perhaps there is a connection. The names are:Fielden Brown, MCR# 6557,application# 427; Leander M. Brown, MCR# 6551, application# 451; Mary E. Brown, MCR# 6851, application# 468; Sarah (McKnubb) Brown should be McKnabb, MCR# 6561,application#1440, 1444; Thomas L. Brown, MCR# 6850, application#473, 475. I have many traders' surnames in my line: Barnes, Woodward, Hall, etc. Imafo [email protected] wrote: Good morning! There was a Samuel Brown in Savanah, Georgia about 1740-1750 that was an Indian Trader. I do know that most of these people married a Native American in order to gain better trading favors with their people. Does anyone on this list have any knowledge of this Samuel Brown? There were two Samuel Brown's in this area and one was the son of Samuel Brown Sr. I believe the Samuel Brown Jr was the Indian Trader. Thank you Cyndi ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.

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May Blessings come your way also Dusty. Delor ........................................................... In a message dated 12/27/2006 7:27:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, <[email protected]> writes: >Hi all: > >Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Joyful Kwanzah, etc. > >There will be many folks getting new computers for Christmas and beginning their search for ancestors. Lets all be as helpful to our newcomers as possible, and many many THANKS to those "oldtimers" who go the extra mile to do lookups for those who post queries. You guys make my job easy. May the New Year bring many blessings your way. > >dusty

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If you go to Google and type Zachariah Collins, at the top of the 2nd page is "Beaman Gleanings" and his name is shown. I didn't read what was there....just noticed the names were ones you were/are searching. The 1st page also has entries re Zachariah, but may not be the one you're searching. angelyn ---- Sleeping Fawn <[email protected]> wrote: > I am still searching for Zachariah Collins/Collinsworth > that married a Welthy Beaman. Does anyone have a > record of them? > fawn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been hunting ancestral roots for many years and FINALLY got down to some solid information about my Choctaw ancestry. However, I need some guidance in order to go further. My quest begins with Bettie Warfe/Gavin in Cliftonville (Noxubee) MS. At the age of 61, she filed for recognition as MS Choctaw, along with her 8 adult children. The father of her children, Robert Gavin was white. In testimony to the Commission to the Five Civilized Tribes in 1901, she says that she was born in VA and brought to MS by "some white folks" when she was about 9 years old. She claimed her Choctaw ancestry through her grandmother, Mary Owen, whom she said was full blooded Choctaw from AL. She said her mother (Acey, Alcey or Elizabeth Owen or Hughes), was half Choctaw and that her father, Isaac Hoskiss, was a "Yankee". Although she claimed to have never been a slave, other information leads us to believe she came to MS with a John Warf, who was a slaveholder and was traded to the Gavin family. Warf migrated from VA to MS with 5 slaves. He made a stop along the way in AL. In any case, she did not make her claim as a Choctaw freedman. Her claim for Choctaw recognition was denied (MCR). However, her son Owen somehow managed to get a land grant in OK. Census records list him variously as mulatto and Indian. His children attended Indian schools. He was driven off of his land by night riders, during which experience his daughters were violated. In anguish, he committed suicide and the Choctaws refused to touch his body or bury him. The physical descriptions in the NARA records and family photos show that Bettie's children all looked Native American - long straight black hair, copper skin, thin lips - but, given their white admixture, that may not say anything. So far, I can't document much save for family memories and now the NARA records. Does anyone have any advice on where I might look for Bettie's mother and grandmother? Anything anyone can offer will be GREATLY APPRECIATED. BTW: MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

I am still searching for Zachariah Collins/Collinsworth that married a Welthy Beaman. Does anyone have a record of them? fawn

Thanks much Dusty...Merry Christmas from James in the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] Final Rolls Database > James: > > There are different dates for different categories. The date for Choctaws > (By Blood) is Sept. 25, 1902. The date for Minor Choctaws and Newborn > Choctaws is March 4, 1906. Intermarried Choctaws is Sept. 25, 1902. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Brown" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 11:51 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] Final Rolls Database > > >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php?PHPSESSID=f711c1054fe3993b12b22da9989a06dd >> >> Re the information from the above link. The names and ages given ( > referring to CHOCTAW). Are these ages calculated from 1896? If not can > anyone tell me the year the ages are calculated. >> Thank You >> James Brown >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

James: There are different dates for different categories. The date for Choctaws (By Blood) is Sept. 25, 1902. The date for Minor Choctaws and Newborn Choctaws is March 4, 1906. Intermarried Choctaws is Sept. 25, 1902. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] Final Rolls Database > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php?PHPSESSID=f711c1054fe3993b12b22da9989a06dd > > Re the information from the above link. The names and ages given ( referring to CHOCTAW). Are these ages calculated from 1896? If not can anyone tell me the year the ages are calculated. > Thank You > James Brown > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php?PHPSESSID=f711c1054fe3993b12b22da9989a06dd Re the information from the above link. The names and ages given ( referring to CHOCTAW). Are these ages calculated from 1896? If not can anyone tell me the year the ages are calculated. Thank You James Brown

I looked back through some old sent email and discovered it has been a long time since I post any new pages to the list. Many of you know Glee, she has allowed us to post some of her family stories including photos. Bee Trouble, Jasper Newton "Tuck" Bee http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/bee/ Gunfight at Whitmire School, http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/proctor/ Recollections of My Life, Walter Neel http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/books/neel/index.htm We have also added The Siouan Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/siouan-indians.htm Index of Books and Articles Online at Native American Genealogy http://www.nanations.com/indian-books.htm Rights of Mississippi Choctaw in the Choctaw Nation http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm Claims of Indians for Compensation for lands in Oklahoma Territory Nez Perce http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm Petition and Papers Relative to Certain Lower Brule Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/papers/petition-brule-sioux.htm Mission of St. James in the State of Washington http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/papers/mission-stjames.htm Winnebago History and Culture http://www.nanations.com/winnebago-history-culture.htm A Brief History of the Indians of Nebraska http://www.nanations.com/nebraska-indians.htm Indians of Tama County Iowa http://www.nanations.com/sac/indians_of_tama_county.htm The American Indian as a Participant in the Civil War http://www.nanations.com/civil-war-participant.htm We hope you can find something of interest in this list!! Thanks Judy

Good morning! There was a Samuel Brown in Savanah, Georgia about 1740-1750 that was an Indian Trader. I do know that most of these people married a Native American in order to gain better trading favors with their people. Does anyone on this list have any knowledge of this Samuel Brown? There were two Samuel Brown's in this area and one was the son of Samuel Brown Sr. I believe the Samuel Brown Jr was the Indian Trader. Thank you Cyndi

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Here is some of what I have on the Kincade's... Spanish records show a John Kincade 1787 in Santa Catalina, Mississippi (Spanish) Territory This family hard to trace.... Unknown who is the father Joseph, Andrew or Robert 1 1885 Sugarloaf...is this Joseph who was Chief, a son or Nephew? Kincaid, Joseph, 70, M/I, Farmer, 8? ac. Kincaid, Mary, 23, F/I, , Kincaid, Ellis, 1, M/I, , Malatabbo, Sampson, 30, M/I, and Kincaid, Simeon, 50, M/I, , Charleston, Elsie, 28, F/I, , Charleston, Lizzie, 2, F/I, , 1885 Skullyville... I would think they are descendants of Lyman Kincade 161. Kincaid, Wycy 40 FI 162. Kincaid, Liza 13 FI 163. McCann, Joe 18 MI (Alexander McCann and Hoyahoke) 312. Kincaid, Willy 22 MI Farmer 313. Kincaid, Sophia 23 FI 314. Smith, Molly 8 FI 315. Smith, Babe 2mo FI Dawes cards... Unaccounted for Card 3941 Joseph Kincaid and Rhoda Guess, parents of Alice Kincaid Terry, (1/4) born ca 1874 card 2379 William Kincaid and Julia A. Sexton parents of Lela Kincaid (3/4) ca 1887 card 2254 Willie Kincaid and Milsie, parents of Mary Kincaid born ca 1882 (full) Card 968 Sissie Kincaide, Full, no parents listed, born ca 1885 Notes for JOSEPH KINCAID: >From the Oklahoma Chronicles, Vol 17, No. 1, p 12, Hudson, Peter James Joseph Kincaid was selected to fill out the unexpired term of Mosholetvbbi. It is not known where Joseph Kincaid lived in Indian Territory after he migrated here, but he had a brother (or a son) named Robert Kincaid who was a student at Choctaw Academy, Kentucky, who migrated to Indian Territory, and located about three miles west of what is now the town of Shady Point, Oklahoma. Last February, 1934, an old log house said to have been built by Robert Kincaid, which had been occupied by his relatives, was burned down. I passed by where it had stood just after it had burned. I assume then that Joseph Kincaid probably lived in that vicinity. Armstrong Rolls Mushulatubbe District, Capt. Jos. Kincaid 11,3,5, one slave Is this him in 1885 Sugarloaf Kincaid, Joseph, 70, M/I, Farmer, 8? ac. Kincaid, Mary, 23, F/I, , Kincaid, Ellis, 1, M/I, , Malatabbo, Sampson, 30, M/I, , Child of JOSEPH KINCAID is: 5. i. ROBERT3 KINCAID, b. Abt. 1825; d. Aft. 1855. 3. ANDREW2 KINCAID (UNKNOWN1 KINCADE) was born Abt. 1790, and died Bef. 1856. He married POLLY UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1810, and died Unknown. Notes for ANDREW KINCAID: Armstrong Rolls, Mushulatubbee district 7, 0,3,one slave Andrew Kincade on armstrong rolls, household 7, males over 16 0, children under 10. 3 Andrew Kincade may have been another son of the father of the nephew of Mushulatubbee Joseph Kincade mentioned by the missionaries, this would explain why Pierre's son married his neice. Mt. Fork 3rd Muster roll also there Andrew Kincaid 7 in household Children of ANDREW KINCAID and POLLY UNKNOWN are: 6. i. EMMA3 KINCADE, b. Abt. 1830; d. Aft. 1900. 7. ii. ELIZA KINCADE, b. Abt. 1835; d. Aft. 1900. 8. iii. GEORGE KINCADE, b. 1844; d. Aft. 1900. 4. UNKNOWN2 KINCAID (UNKNOWN1 KINCADE) was born Abt. 1790, and died Unknown. Children of UNKNOWN KINCAID are: 9. i. LYMAN3 KINCAID, b. Abt. 1830; d. Bet. 1874 - 1885. 10. ii. JOSEPH KINCADE, b. Abt. 1850; d. Unknown. 11. iii. HARRIS KINCAID, b. Abt. 1830; d. Bet. 1874 - 1885. 12. iv. WILL KINCADE, b. Abt. 1860; d. Unknown. v. REASON KINCAID, b. Sep 1866; d. Unknown. Notes for REASON KINCAID: 1900 census, wife Annie, cousin Allen Wright born 1885 Notes for SISTER TWO MUSHAULATUBBEE: ? emigration rolls James Kincaid 6 males 4 females 5 children 2 slaves one birth 1/5/1833 Jennifer Mieirs My genealogy webpage http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com

Here's what the "life among the Choctaws" says about Cornelius' murder Cornelius Macann, a half-breed, was our next nearest neighbor; he was a well-disposed, quiet man, about fifty years of age, with grown-up children, but married to a second wife, who was many years younger than himself. Macann owned a small farm, had comfort about his cabin, and had a very fine stock of cattle, which rendered him quite independent in his circumstances. also.. Cornelius Macann and family, who were our near neighbors, had to perform a journey of thirty miles to reach home; as they could not do this in one afternoon, they were forced to camp and take one "sleep" by the roadside. Macann was about fifty years old; his wife was much younger, and his son Jim, by a former wife, was perhaps twenty-five years old. The old gentleman was a little more under the influence of liquor than his wife, and she assumed the responsibility of taking the jug into her own possession. Camping by the side of their trail, Macann was very stupid and almost consumed by thirst; his wife kept the jug concealed and would not give him the coveted oko-ho-ma--whisky. He complained bitterly of his wife's unkind treatment, but finally lay down by the camp-fire and went into a drunken sleep. At a late hour Jim Macann, the son, rode up to the camp, whereupon Mrs. Macann immediately brought out the jug to treat Jim. The old man again begged for whisky to quench his thi! rst, which was about to consume him, but his request was not regarded; again he lay down and went to sleep. Mrs. Macann and Jim held a short conference, and then proceeded to murder the husband and father. The fiendish deed was accomplished by the son, in the presence of the wife, with a stout cudgel three feet long; he literally broke the father's head, and left his lifeless and mangled corpse lying by the camp-fire. There had been no provocation; the act was cool, deliberate, premeditated, and murderous. It was believed that the wife's object was to get rid of her husband, that she might secure a younger and more sprightly companion. The son, who was a fast young man, with a strong disgust for manual labor, wished to get possession of his father's property, which consisted of a good stock of cattle and horses. The entire community seemed shocked at the horrible and unnatural crime of the murder, and forthwith the light-horsemen arrested Jim and brought him before the proper tribunal to answer to the charge of murder in the first degree. The investigation was prosecuted with promptness; he was found guilty and sentenced to be shot. Jim succeeded, however, in obtaining a new trial, which was set for an early day; but there was no prison in which to confine him, and, before the time arrived in which the investigation was to be made, he absconded, and was next heard of in the "old nation," east of the Mississippi, a thousand miles distant. Their method and forms in the prosecution of criminals were of a primitive character. If a man was charged with crime it became the duty of the light-�horsemen to notify the accused to appear before the court, upon a set day, for trial; but during the interval the culprit went free. If a full-blooded Indian they had the fullest confidence that he would come voluntarily to the bar and meet courageously the impending decision; as his honor and bravery were involved no one feared that he would secrete himself or fly to escape sentence of the law. To be regarded as a coward was a doom more fearful, a thousand-fold, than death itself; he is altogether too brave to shun a judicial investigation; he is not afraid to die, but ready to face death with boldness. But half-breed Indians were not to be trusted; they were almost as mean and cowardly as white men themselves; they were alike destitute of honor and courage Jim Macann was a half-breed; he was "no brave," and, hence, to save h! is unworthy life, fled from his tribe that he might obtain a refuge in a distant land. also... Calvin was the brother-in-law of Jim Macann, and had been much enraged at the light-horsemen for their promptness in arresting Jim and bringing him to trial. He had sworn that he would wreak his vengeance upon Captain Riddle; this threat was made in the presence of one of Riddle's friends. Calvin had been seen in the bushes, near the Captain's residence, with his rifle in hand, and, when challenged, he boldly declared that his object was to kill Riddle. Thus matters stood for a number of weeks. Calvin's deadly hostility could not be over come, although he knew full well that Riddle's acts had been official and not characterized by personal animosity. They met for the first time after the difficulty at Ayakni Achukma, when Riddle, T. Walls, T. M'Kenny, and C. James, all light-horsemen, approached Calvin and Lewis Macann, and asked if it was true that he Calvin had sworn vengeance against the light-horsemen, and against himself Riddle in particular? Calvin said it was true, and that his purpose was to kill every man of them, commencing with Riddle. The light-horsemen then simultaneously fired upon Calvin and Lewis Macann, killing them instantly. The deed was violent and much to be regretted, and yet there seemed to be no remedy less cruel and bloody. They had only acted in their official capacity in the act which gave mortal offense, and then, to protect their lives, they were forced to destroy those who had sworn vengeance against them. They immediately surrendered themselves to the authorities, and demanded an investigation, which resulted in their acquittal; the authorities fully justified them in the deed. A man who deliberately and persistently threatens murder is considered an outlaw and treated accordingly. But, after this unhappy occurrence, Captain Riddle became gloomy and wretched; he reflected on himself, regretting that he had killed Calvin. He was sad and greatly depressed in spirit, and remarked to a friend, "I never before shed blood ; I am not a murderer, had no malice in my heart against Calvin. I wish I had not touched him, but had run the risk of being shot myself; I am now so wretched that I would rather die than live!� Some months after that event Mr. Riddle's business called him into the southern part of the tribe; and, while in the vicinity of Fort Towson, he had an attack of toothache and neuralgia in the face. The surgeon at the Fort was called to see him, extracted the decayed tooth, and gave him medicine, not regarding the symptoms by any means alarming. Mr. Goode, being in that part of the nation, called to see Riddle, but did not think him seriously ill. He did not improve, however, but, gradually declining, in a few days died, apparently from mental rather than physical sufferings. He was a national loss a good, honest, patriotic, and capable officer whom the tribe could not well spare. We knew no Choctaw for whom we felt greater respect than for William Riddle, the United States Interpreter and captain of' the light-horsemen, or marshals, of his district. His son, Philip, was in the Academy a fine, sprightly lad of twelve years of age and, when we left that country, was making fi! ne progress in his studies; he was an unusually promising youth. Jennifer Mieirs My genealogy webpage http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com

The Kincade family is a HARD one to trace. I know that history book's mention Joseph Kincade was the nephew of Mushulatubbee. I have found a possible connection with the McCann's, but I can't figure them out either. Joseph Kincade was chief briefly in the Mushulatubbee district, and it is likely the children in San Bois and SKullyville are related to him. There is also an Andrew Kincade, who appears to perhaps be Joseph's brother. In 1900 James Kincade the son of Joseph Kincade is living with Martin Whistler, he's listed as a cousin. I do know that he's not a first cousin. Martin Whistler was the son of Sina Wright, who was the daughter of Melissa McCann. Melissa is the daughter of Cornelius McCann. Cornelius isn't listed on the 1856 because he was murdered by his son, the murder is discussed in "Life among the Choctaw's" In 1856 Robert Kincade has two McCann's living with him, so it is possible A. his wife was the daughter of Cornelius McCann B. His wife was the much younger wife of Cornelius mentioned in "Life among the Choctaws" C. Robert's mother was related to Cornelius McCann.... More to Follow... Any Ideas? Jennifer Mieirs My genealogy webpage http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com

I have added multiple pages and databases to the Choctaw site on my webpage to assist with research...many of the files are in pdf form. http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/index_1.html Included are the following.... Databases of Sugarloaf, Skullyville and San Bois with 1885 census, dawes card database information if applicable, and household or probable household with county of the 1856 census. Extracted names from miscellaneous censuses 1864-1874 for San Bois, Sugarloaf, Skullyville and Blue H. S. Halbert's article on Bernard Roman's map...paraphased (free domain) information on the towns Utilizing the Armstrong Roll's in research, a look at some individuals Translations of Choctaw names from my research 1785-1813 database of Tensaw/Tombigbee censuses, tax lists for Washington and Baldwin county Anglo American's in Spanish records, emphasis on probable source of mixed bloods among the Choctaw, Chickasaw and Creek Skullyville families, map of county with locations I need to thank the following for their assistance... Sandra Riley, Marlene Clarke, Kerry Armstrong, Rusty Lang, Judy (from accessgenealogy.com) to name a few. Source material for the databases is as follows...besides my own books 1885 census from Rusty Lang's website, originally transcribed by Monty Olsen; http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~choc1885/ 1856, originally transcribed by Alma Mason, from a genealogy friend Dawes card database from http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php Miscellaneous censuses, microfilm at Arkansas Historical commission Google books, public domain H. S. Halbert's articles (takes a while to find them all), Cyrus Byington's "Dictionary of the Choctaw Language" 1902 Rootsweb 1785 census for Tensaw, and Washington County data; http://members.aol.com/JORDANJM2/washingtn.html http://www.trackingyourroots.com/ http://vidas.rootsweb.com/sherry.html Jennifer Mieirs My genealogy webpage http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com

Anglo Americans in Spanish Archives, Feldman, Lawrence H., 1991Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, Md Extractions of names of possible interest Mobile Names Frasery, Alexander (Frazier) 1781, origin Choctaw Nation Giroud, David 1781, Origin Choctaw Nation James, Benjamin 1781, Choctaw Nation Juran, Pedro (Juzan) 1786, widower Cooper, Henry Labon 1781, origin North Carolina Magee, Malcom, 1781, origin Chickasaw Nation Mcluer, Walter 1781 origin North Carolina Kurtan, Cornelius 1786 Piburn, Jacob 1785 and 1786 Riddle, William 1781 Texton, Askin 1781, Choctaw Nation Walker, Abraham 1786 Tombecbe Names John Dyer 1781 Israel Fulsom 1781 Ebinezer Fulsom 1781 John Garner 1781 Henry Hall 1781 (twice) Russell Jones 1781 Thomas Lovee 1781 Cornelius McCurtin 1781 (twice) McGilivray, Fendly, and James 1781 Mgillvvray, James, Lachlin, Laughlin 1781 John and Walter Turnbull 1781 Joel Walker 1781 Tensa 1781 (Listed as Louisianna, but I believe some of this is the Alabama settlement) known alabama *** Asbill, John Baily, Richard, *** Bapill, William Barker, Richard Booth, John Burnett, D. Champin, Nicholas Clec, Charles Cordery, Thomas (father) Cowen, Robert Dalphen, Francois Durbin, Joseph Eleson Eubanks, Stephen Forget Peter de Fuller, Mortacea Gray, Robert Gray, William Hubart, Stephen Jackson, Harvis Jackson, Joseph Johnston, George Meders, Edward Melone (Malone), John Mersten, John Murphy, James Murphy, John Oats, William Peare, Ezekeal W Piburn, Jacob (1/12/1785)*** Ransford, John Safold, Jahem Smith, Thomas Smith, William Snell, Christian Stachey, Joshua Strachan, Patirc Sulavant, Cornelius Temer, Robert Thilluerp, Robert Tulter, Charles Vingant, Charles Vingant, Stephan Walkers, Abram *** Mississippi districts 1787 Santa Catalina, Second Creek, Coles Creek and Bayou Pierre 1792 Second Creek, Sandy Creek, Buffalo Creek, Homochito, Villa Gayoso (Cole�s Creek), Bayou Pierre, Rio Black, and Bayou Sarah 1787 John Kincade Santa Catalina�? Relates to Choctaw Cole�s Creek (Villa Gayoso) 1792 Anderson, Juan Cable, Jacob Calvit, Thomas (1787 and 1792) Cilond, Adam Cole�s- James Sr. and James Jr., and Mark (1787 and 1792) Cole, Guillermo, Solomon 1792 Jones, John (1787 and 1792) Natchez Names Hall, Juan 1786 Cole, James Sr, and Jr before 1787 records Wall, John 1792 Welch, Thomas, before 1789 Welck, Jacob bef 1789 Natchez Origins Colbert, John/Juan 1794 Americano Colbert, Simon 1795 Americano Jones, Charles bef 1788, NC Jones, Charles, aft 1788 KY Jones, David, aft 1788 KY Jones, Henry, NC bef 1788 Jones, Rober , NC bef 1788 Jennifer Mieirs My genealogy webpage http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com