I need to understand this correctly as you state.Are you saying that each of these two people possess 4/4 degree Native American blood quantum? Are either of these two people recognized as a tribal member in his/her respective tribe? I'm curious, as I'm aware that there are tribes whose blood degree requirments are greater than others. James Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "cinnabarsetters" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] Fw: Blood Quantum A whole different angle > > Hello, > I have read this list for over two years and seldom post, but this is a > story I want to share. First of all the Mississippi Choctaw will not > accept anyone who is 50% or under Choctaw. That would leave a lot of > Oklahoma Choctaw out. > > I have met full bloded Choctaw who don't even know their language. That > is indeed sad. If a mix-blood knows his/her language or custom, is that > mixed blood any less Indian than the full blood who doesn't speak his/her > language? > > But here is even a more interesting scenario. I have a friend who is a > full-blooded Indian, but a mix blood of three different tribes. He > married a full-blooded Indian who is also a tribal mix. Their children > are full blooded Indians, but can not belong to any tribe bacause thier > blood quantum's are too marginal. How do we categorize these Indians? > Raven > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Angelyn, my online friend, I would never complain about any remarks you made, you are always so positive and helpful. I apoligize ( over and over ) .My response was only to say that I am a tribal member that may not agree with the past actions of the Dawes Commissions, but I 100% endorse blood quantum. My son , Joshie read this post and I think you helped put him and a friend in touch or gave them an email addesss of a man knowledgeable in " all things Choctaw" sometime in the past. He read your post and tells me, " Dad you better say something nice back to that Angelyn lady, I think you hurt her feelings". So I'm sorry if you thought I was responding negaively to your post. In fact my apologies to anyone if my opinion seemed offensive. James N. the Choctaw Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "James Brown" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] blood quantum > James, I realize the rolls are not perfect and was not/am not complaining > about the difference in the blood quantum of David Osborne Fisher and that > of his brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, etc. I just wondered how he got > to be 3/8ths? How do you get to be 3/8ths of 'anything'!? I plan to send > for his enrollment packet mainly because I'm hoping there is some clue as > to the date of birth, date of death of his mother, Martha "Patsy" Hays. > I'm not even sure of the spelling of her surname. > > Angelyn > > ---- James Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> I was born Choctaw and have lived in tribal community my entire life. The >> Dawes rolls are not perfect, but it is the only base, members of the Five >> Civilized Tribes have to prove lineage to an ancestor/ancestors on the >> rolls, to satisfy the requirements of the federal governments as well as >> their respective tribal membership departments. I believe errors were >> made by the Dawes Commission in recording the blood quantum of some, >> including members of the same family. However, this as I see it is the >> best way to prove and or calculate quantum. This is an old argument. I >> have reason to believe that the tribal government which I am a member of, >> stands behind this method of proving Native American heritage. I had to >> smile recently when I heard my tribal council representative say to me in >> a discussuion about proving lineage, " James I was born Choctaw". I >> thought I had coined the phrase. Although alot of people disagree, and >> certainly we are all entitled to our little opinions, .! >> . I endorse the requirment of blood quanum. >> >> James N. the Choctaw Nation >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Well, I don't know. When you measure flour for biscuits, a cake, whatever, 1/2C and 1/4C are 3/4thC. Angelyn My ailing husband is inquiring "What's to eat?". Back later. ---- cinnabarsetters <[email protected]> wrote: > One parent is 1/4 and the other is 1/2. 3/8 is in between those two > numbers. > Darice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: 03/31/2007 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 2, Issue 13 > > > >I agree, Ron, but part of my query concerned how, being mathematically > >challenged, one arrives at the figure of 3/8ths? I do not care that David > >Osborne Fisher is more or less Choctaw than his brothers and sisters. I > >would like to see his enrollment packet mainly because none of his nieces - > >the ones I've worked with the past 6 years re the LeFlore and associated > >families - know how much Choctaw his mother, Martha Hays was. It might also > >give us a clue as to her birthdate as well as her date of death. > > > > Angelyn > > > > ---- [email protected] wrote: > >> My opinion is that blood quantum is absurd from the get-go, but it is > >> common > >> to have children of the same parents listed with different quanta on the > >> Dawes Rolls. It's pretty meaningless as a measure of anything. > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >> > >> ************************************** See what's free at > >> http://www.aol.com. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007 > > 1:15 PM > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds something like our son-in-law: Chiricahua Apache/Kiowa/Comanche and French, but not a member of any tribe. Angelyn ---- cinnabarsetters <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello, > I have read this list for over two years and seldom post, but this is a story I want to share. First of all the Mississippi Choctaw will not accept anyone who is 50% or under Choctaw. That would leave a lot of Oklahoma Choctaw out. > > I have met full bloded Choctaw who don't even know their language. That is indeed sad. If a mix-blood knows his/her language or custom, is that mixed blood any less Indian than the full blood who doesn't speak his/her language? > > But here is even a more interesting scenario. I have a friend who is a full-blooded Indian, but a mix blood of three different tribes. He married a full-blooded Indian who is also a tribal mix. Their children are full blooded Indians, but can not belong to any tribe bacause thier blood quantum's are too marginal. How do we categorize these Indians? > Raven > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't think my last 'transmission' went through: if it did, my apologies as I'm about to repeat myself. I was not/am not complaining about the Dawes Rolls, knowing they were not perfect, showing David Osborne Fisher at 3/8ths Choctaw, his brothers and sisters a different blood quantum. My question was how do you get to be 3/8ths Choctaw, indeed 3/8ths of ANYTHING?! I do plan on sending for DO's enrollment packet because I'm hoping there will be information as to the birth and death dates of his mother, Martha "Patsy" Hays. I'm not even sure about the spelling of her surname. Angelyn ---- James Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > I was born Choctaw and have lived in tribal community my entire life. The Dawes rolls are not perfect, but it is the only base, members of the Five Civilized Tribes have to prove lineage to an ancestor/ancestors on the rolls, to satisfy the requirements of the federal governments as well as their respective tribal membership departments. I believe errors were made by the Dawes Commission in recording the blood quantum of some, including members of the same family. However, this as I see it is the best way to prove and or calculate quantum. This is an old argument. I have reason to believe that the tribal government which I am a member of, stands behind this method of proving Native American heritage. I had to smile recently when I heard my tribal council representative say to me in a discussuion about proving lineage, " James I was born Choctaw". I thought I had coined the phrase. Although alot of people disagree, and certainly we are all entitled to our little opinions,! .! > . I endorse the requirment of blood quanum. > > James N. the Choctaw Nation > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James, I realize the rolls are not perfect and was not/am not complaining about the difference in the blood quantum of David Osborne Fisher and that of his brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, etc. I just wondered how he got to be 3/8ths? How do you get to be 3/8ths of 'anything'!? I plan to send for his enrollment packet mainly because I'm hoping there is some clue as to the date of birth, date of death of his mother, Martha "Patsy" Hays. I'm not even sure of the spelling of her surname. Angelyn ---- James Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > I was born Choctaw and have lived in tribal community my entire life. The Dawes rolls are not perfect, but it is the only base, members of the Five Civilized Tribes have to prove lineage to an ancestor/ancestors on the rolls, to satisfy the requirements of the federal governments as well as their respective tribal membership departments. I believe errors were made by the Dawes Commission in recording the blood quantum of some, including members of the same family. However, this as I see it is the best way to prove and or calculate quantum. This is an old argument. I have reason to believe that the tribal government which I am a member of, stands behind this method of proving Native American heritage. I had to smile recently when I heard my tribal council representative say to me in a discussuion about proving lineage, " James I was born Choctaw". I thought I had coined the phrase. Although alot of people disagree, and certainly we are all entitled to our little opinions,! .! > . I endorse the requirment of blood quanum. > > James N. the Choctaw Nation > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree, Ron, but part of my query concerned how, being mathematically challenged, one arrives at the figure of 3/8ths? I do not care that David Osborne Fisher is more or less Choctaw than his brothers and sisters. I would like to see his enrollment packet mainly because none of his nieces - the ones I've worked with the past 6 years re the LeFlore and associated families - know how much Choctaw his mother, Martha Hays was. It might also give us a clue as to her birthdate as well as her date of death. Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: > My opinion is that blood quantum is absurd from the get-go, but it is common > to have children of the same parents listed with different quanta on the > Dawes Rolls. It's pretty meaningless as a measure of anything. > > Ron > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One parent is 1/4 and the other is 1/2. 3/8 is in between those two numbers. Darice ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: 03/31/2007 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 2, Issue 13 >I agree, Ron, but part of my query concerned how, being mathematically >challenged, one arrives at the figure of 3/8ths? I do not care that David >Osborne Fisher is more or less Choctaw than his brothers and sisters. I >would like to see his enrollment packet mainly because none of his nieces - >the ones I've worked with the past 6 years re the LeFlore and associated >families - know how much Choctaw his mother, Martha Hays was. It might also >give us a clue as to her birthdate as well as her date of death. > > Angelyn > > ---- [email protected] wrote: >> My opinion is that blood quantum is absurd from the get-go, but it is >> common >> to have children of the same parents listed with different quanta on the >> Dawes Rolls. It's pretty meaningless as a measure of anything. >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007 > 1:15 PM > >

Hello, I have read this list for over two years and seldom post, but this is a story I want to share. First of all the Mississippi Choctaw will not accept anyone who is 50% or under Choctaw. That would leave a lot of Oklahoma Choctaw out. I have met full bloded Choctaw who don't even know their language. That is indeed sad. If a mix-blood knows his/her language or custom, is that mixed blood any less Indian than the full blood who doesn't speak his/her language? But here is even a more interesting scenario. I have a friend who is a full-blooded Indian, but a mix blood of three different tribes. He married a full-blooded Indian who is also a tribal mix. Their children are full blooded Indians, but can not belong to any tribe bacause thier blood quantum's are too marginal. How do we categorize these Indians? Raven

You are more than entitled to your opinion,but there is a reason for it.If it weren't for this ,anybody and his brother could claim indian heritage whether they really are or not. Think of it like this.Would it make sense for a complete stranger to claim relations to you without proof they truly are your relative.Think about it. [email protected] wrote: My opinion is that blood quantum is absurd from the get-go, but it is common to have children of the same parents listed with different quanta on the Dawes Rolls. It's pretty meaningless as a measure of anything. Ron ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.

I was born Choctaw and have lived in tribal community my entire life. The Dawes rolls are not perfect, but it is the only base, members of the Five Civilized Tribes have to prove lineage to an ancestor/ancestors on the rolls, to satisfy the requirements of the federal governments as well as their respective tribal membership departments. I believe errors were made by the Dawes Commission in recording the blood quantum of some, including members of the same family. However, this as I see it is the best way to prove and or calculate quantum. This is an old argument. I have reason to believe that the tribal government which I am a member of, stands behind this method of proving Native American heritage. I had to smile recently when I heard my tribal council representative say to me in a discussuion about proving lineage, " James I was born Choctaw". I thought I had coined the phrase. Although alot of people disagree, and certainly we are all entitled to our little opinions, .. I endorse the requirment of blood quanum. James N. the Choctaw Nation

My opinion is that blood quantum is absurd from the get-go, but it is common to have children of the same parents listed with different quanta on the Dawes Rolls. It's pretty meaningless as a measure of anything. Ron ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Angelyn- I know that siblings in one of my Choctaw family’s line did not show the same blood quantum on their cards. (they were all on different cards as they were adults at the time) Figuring blood quantum for mixed bloods was not a science from what I have discovered in my research - it seems to be more of a guess, depending on what facts were given to the person collecting and recording the data at the time. Just my thoughts... Carri In a message dated 3/29/2007 6:06:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Math was never one of my better subjects and I am totally confused as to how my 3Great Uncle Davis Osborne Fisher got to be 3/8ths Choctaw card #308 at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/nativeamerican One of his older sisters, Rebecca Fisher, is my GGGgrandmother, married to Forbis LeFlore, and I know that their daughter, my 2Ggrandmother, Matilda Elizabeth LeFlore Manning, enrolled as 1/2. Angelyn ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Math was never one of my better subjects and I am totally confused as to how my 3Great Uncle Davis Osborne Fisher got to be 3/8ths Choctaw card #308 at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/nativeamerican One of his older sisters, Rebecca Fisher, is my GGGgrandmother, married to Forbis LeFlore, and I know that their daughter, my 2Ggrandmother, Matilda Elizabeth LeFlore Manning, enrolled as 1/2. Angelyn

You can also go here http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php and access the rolls, a little easier than the National Archives. This is more complete than the next one. We also have an index to those who made application http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > > To get to view the Dawes Rolls you can go to the National Archives and > Records Administration (NARA) website _http://www.archives.gov/_ > (http://www.archives.gov/) - then click on the right lower side of the > screen on ARC. Then > click on the ARC search button on top left of screen. Type in " Dawes > Final > Rolls" and you can view digital copies of the original list and look up > your family > members there. > > > > In a message dated 3/23/2007 7:15:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Yes, it IS old and is among some other 'oldies' I've saved! My question > still > wasn't answered, old, new, whatever. > > Angelyn > > ---- Judy White <[email protected]> wrote: >> Did any notice the date on the message listed below? September 03, 2005 >> 10:10 PM is something mixed up? This is just a little old. >> >> Judy >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index >> >> >> > Is there a more 'complete' Dawes list than the one below, one with more > of >> > the enrollment numbers? Although I do have my GGgrandmother's, for >> > instance, it's not on this Dawes Roll, nor are any of her childrens' >> > roll >> > numbers. >> > >> > Angelyn >> > >> > ---- [email protected] wrote: >> > Thanks Judy! And when you have name and number, I can give you all > family >> > members on that census card. >> > >> > dusty >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:10 PM >> > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index >> > >> > The latest addition to the rolls at Native American Genealogy Dawes >> > Roll >> > Index, just the listing of name, roll number, and the page number from > the >> > roll http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php >> > >> > This will replace the images that have been on our pages for a long >> > time. >> > Just a new tool to make your research easier!! >> > >> > Judy > > > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"File not found." Website has been redesigned. Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: > To get to view the Dawes Rolls you can go to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) website _http://www.archives.gov/_ (http://www.archives.gov/) - then click on the right lower side of the screen on ARC. Then click on the ARC search button on top left of screen. Type in " Dawes Final Rolls" and you can view digital copies of the original list and look up your family members there.

To get to view the Dawes Rolls you can go to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) website _http://www.archives.gov/_ (http://www.archives.gov/) - then click on the right lower side of the screen on ARC. Then click on the ARC search button on top left of screen. Type in " Dawes Final Rolls" and you can view digital copies of the original list and look up your family members there. In a message dated 3/23/2007 7:15:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Yes, it IS old and is among some other 'oldies' I've saved! My question still wasn't answered, old, new, whatever. Angelyn ---- Judy White <[email protected]> wrote: > Did any notice the date on the message listed below? September 03, 2005 > 10:10 PM is something mixed up? This is just a little old. > > Judy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > > > > Is there a more 'complete' Dawes list than the one below, one with more of > > the enrollment numbers? Although I do have my GGgrandmother's, for > > instance, it's not on this Dawes Roll, nor are any of her childrens' roll > > numbers. > > > > Angelyn > > > > ---- [email protected] wrote: > > Thanks Judy! And when you have name and number, I can give you all family > > members on that census card. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:10 PM > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > > > > The latest addition to the rolls at Native American Genealogy Dawes Roll > > Index, just the listing of name, roll number, and the page number from the > > roll http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > > > This will replace the images that have been on our pages for a long time. > > Just a new tool to make your research easier!! > > > > Judy ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Yes, it IS old and is among some other 'oldies' I've saved! My question still wasn't answered, old, new, whatever. Angelyn ---- Judy White <[email protected]> wrote: > Did any notice the date on the message listed below? September 03, 2005 > 10:10 PM is something mixed up? This is just a little old. > > Judy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > > > > Is there a more 'complete' Dawes list than the one below, one with more of > > the enrollment numbers? Although I do have my GGgrandmother's, for > > instance, it's not on this Dawes Roll, nor are any of her childrens' roll > > numbers. > > > > Angelyn > > > > ---- [email protected] wrote: > > Thanks Judy! And when you have name and number, I can give you all family > > members on that census card. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:10 PM > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > > > > The latest addition to the rolls at Native American Genealogy Dawes Roll > > Index, just the listing of name, roll number, and the page number from the > > roll http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > > > This will replace the images that have been on our pages for a long time. > > Just a new tool to make your research easier!! > > > > Judy > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE > > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, > > lookups, articles, etc. > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Markie and Fay's Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > >> > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did any notice the date on the message listed below? September 03, 2005 10:10 PM is something mixed up? This is just a little old. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST] [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > Is there a more 'complete' Dawes list than the one below, one with more of > the enrollment numbers? Although I do have my GGgrandmother's, for > instance, it's not on this Dawes Roll, nor are any of her childrens' roll > numbers. > > Angelyn > > ---- [email protected] wrote: > Thanks Judy! And when you have name and number, I can give you all family > members on that census card. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:10 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index > > The latest addition to the rolls at Native American Genealogy Dawes Roll > Index, just the listing of name, roll number, and the page number from the > roll http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > This will replace the images that have been on our pages for a long time. > Just a new tool to make your research easier!! > > Judy > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, > lookups, articles, etc. > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Markie and Fay's Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ >> > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is there a more 'complete' Dawes list than the one below, one with more of the enrollment numbers? Although I do have my GGgrandmother's, for instance, it's not on this Dawes Roll, nor are any of her childrens' roll numbers. Angelyn ---- [email protected] wrote: Thanks Judy! And when you have name and number, I can give you all family members on that census card. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:10 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] RE: Dawes Roll Index The latest addition to the rolls at Native American Genealogy Dawes Roll Index, just the listing of name, roll number, and the page number from the roll http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php This will replace the images that have been on our pages for a long time. Just a new tool to make your research easier!! Judy ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Markie and Fay's Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm >