Thanks, Marcie. 'Hope you haven't washed away! Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Dusty Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2002 2:49pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Louisiana antimiscegnation laws re Native Americans Thanks Marcie - this is good information for the archives! dusty List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcia Lee <mlee@uwf.edu> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:16 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Louisiana antimiscegnation laws re Native Americans > Good morning all, > > Although these laws were not directed at the Choctaws of > Louisiana they would have affected them & all others classified as > Native American in Louisiana & anyone doing genealogy in Louisiana might > find these laws interesting in finding clues to missing ancestors. > > These are from White by Definition - Social Classification in > Creole Louisiana by Virginia Dominguez, Rutgers University Press, 1986 > ed. "The Louisiana Supreme Court decision in the case of Adele v. > Beauregard in 1810 explicitly stated that American Indians were persons > of color, and this classification was accepted as valid throughout the > nineteenth century. This meant that until 1870 when antimiscegenation > statutes were repealed by Reconstruction governments, marriages between > Indians and whites were prohibited. When interracial marriages were > again outlawed in 1894, Indians---still classified as people of > color---were again prohibited from marrying whites. This depended > exclusively on their identification as persons of color. The first legal > sign of a change in the classification of Indians came in the form of a > 1920 statute (act220; Louisiana Revised Statute 9:201) that treated the > union of an Indian and a person of the colored and black race as > miscegenetic and thereby nullified it completely. Indians were thereby > described as noncolored for the first time in Louisiana's legal history. > By the 1930's the attorney general explicitly stated that marriages > between white persons and Indians was not prohibited in Louisiana." > > Notice prior to the acquisition of Louisiana in 1803 there didn't > seem to be any need for laws relating to whether or not Native Americans > were persons of color & who they couldn't marry. One supposes that meant > it wasn't a problem for the French or Spanish who came before the > Americans. > > Well back to work, Ya'll stay dry down here along the coast. Its > pitch dark here & raining good. They don't let us stay home for a little > old thing like a tropical storm. > > Take care, Marcie > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

------ Original Message ----- From: Dusty Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2002 2:20pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Lawsuit against US government in 1919 Joe: There were MANY lawsuits filed in the early 1900's by groups of Choctaws who claimed reparation for misdeeds on the part of the US government during the removals. In a nutshell, they were all eventually thrown out of court. All these records are stored at the National Archives in Ft. Worth, Texas. I am told there are 17 linear feet of boxes of documents having to do with these actions. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Lee <jlee@centex.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 5:39 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Lawsuit against US government in 1919 > My gggrandmother, Sarah Elmira Rogers Bryan , was a plantiff in a lawsuit aginst the US government in 1919, apparently on behalf of the Mississippii Choctaw Indians. The document I have has a title: > "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co. > " Claim Agent" > Apparently, the document is a receipt for clerical expenses re: a claim against The US Govmt for violation of Choctaw Indians Treaty of 1830. > The person who signed ( Im unable to make out the name but it looks like S. J. Cockwell), agreed to have the case prosecuted before US congress & other tribunals, if necessary, as a descendent of the Mississippi Choctaws. > Can anyone out there shed some light on this or direct me to where I can gain information. Thanks in advance, Joe Lee > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST

Thanks Marcie - this is good information for the archives! dusty List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcia Lee <mlee@uwf.edu> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:16 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Louisiana antimiscegnation laws re Native Americans > Good morning all, > > Although these laws were not directed at the Choctaws of > Louisiana they would have affected them & all others classified as > Native American in Louisiana & anyone doing genealogy in Louisiana might > find these laws interesting in finding clues to missing ancestors. > > These are from White by Definition - Social Classification in > Creole Louisiana by Virginia Dominguez, Rutgers University Press, 1986 > ed. "The Louisiana Supreme Court decision in the case of Adele v. > Beauregard in 1810 explicitly stated that American Indians were persons > of color, and this classification was accepted as valid throughout the > nineteenth century. This meant that until 1870 when antimiscegenation > statutes were repealed by Reconstruction governments, marriages between > Indians and whites were prohibited. When interracial marriages were > again outlawed in 1894, Indians---still classified as people of > color---were again prohibited from marrying whites. This depended > exclusively on their identification as persons of color. The first legal > sign of a change in the classification of Indians came in the form of a > 1920 statute (act220; Louisiana Revised Statute 9:201) that treated the > union of an Indian and a person of the colored and black race as > miscegenetic and thereby nullified it completely. Indians were thereby > described as noncolored for the first time in Louisiana's legal history. > By the 1930's the attorney general explicitly stated that marriages > between white persons and Indians was not prohibited in Louisiana." > > Notice prior to the acquisition of Louisiana in 1803 there didn't > seem to be any need for laws relating to whether or not Native Americans > were persons of color & who they couldn't marry. One supposes that meant > it wasn't a problem for the French or Spanish who came before the > Americans. > > Well back to work, Ya'll stay dry down here along the coast. Its > pitch dark here & raining good. They don't let us stay home for a little > old thing like a tropical storm. > > Take care, Marcie > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com >

Joe: There were MANY lawsuits filed in the early 1900's by groups of Choctaws who claimed reparation for misdeeds on the part of the US government during the removals. In a nutshell, they were all eventually thrown out of court. All these records are stored at the National Archives in Ft. Worth, Texas. I am told there are 17 linear feet of boxes of documents having to do with these actions. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Lee <jlee@centex.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 5:39 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Lawsuit against US government in 1919 > My gggrandmother, Sarah Elmira Rogers Bryan , was a plantiff in a lawsuit aginst the US government in 1919, apparently on behalf of the Mississippii Choctaw Indians. The document I have has a title: > "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co. > " Claim Agent" > Apparently, the document is a receipt for clerical expenses re: a claim against The US Govmt for violation of Choctaw Indians Treaty of 1830. > The person who signed ( Im unable to make out the name but it looks like S. J. Cockwell), agreed to have the case prosecuted before US congress & other tribunals, if necessary, as a descendent of the Mississippi Choctaws. > Can anyone out there shed some light on this or direct me to where I can gain information. Thanks in advance, Joe Lee > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. >

Was someone on this list looking for a Jesse Birdsong? Write to me privately at dustyc@microgear.net if it was you. dusty

Good morning all, Although these laws were not directed at the Choctaws of Louisiana they would have affected them & all others classified as Native American in Louisiana & anyone doing genealogy in Louisiana might find these laws interesting in finding clues to missing ancestors. These are from White by Definition - Social Classification in Creole Louisiana by Virginia Dominguez, Rutgers University Press, 1986 ed. "The Louisiana Supreme Court decision in the case of Adele v. Beauregard in 1810 explicitly stated that American Indians were persons of color, and this classification was accepted as valid throughout the nineteenth century. This meant that until 1870 when antimiscegenation statutes were repealed by Reconstruction governments, marriages between Indians and whites were prohibited. When interracial marriages were again outlawed in 1894, Indians---still classified as people of color---were again prohibited from marrying whites. This depended exclusively on their identification as persons of color. The first legal sign of a change in the classification of Indians came in the form of a 1920 statute (act220; Louisiana Revised Statute 9:201) that treated the union of an Indian and a person of the colored and black race as miscegenetic and thereby nullified it completely. Indians were thereby described as noncolored for the first time in Louisiana's legal history. By the 1930's the attorney general explicitly stated that marriages between white persons and Indians was not prohibited in Louisiana." Notice prior to the acquisition of Louisiana in 1803 there didn't seem to be any need for laws relating to whether or not Native Americans were persons of color & who they couldn't marry. One supposes that meant it wasn't a problem for the French or Spanish who came before the Americans. Well back to work, Ya'll stay dry down here along the coast. Its pitch dark here & raining good. They don't let us stay home for a little old thing like a tropical storm. Take care, Marcie

In a message dated 8/2/2002 10:57:45 PM Central Daylight Time, Peggysyellowrose@aol.com writes: > > > DO YOU FIND ANY: > HOLT > MCCOY > PALMER > BUNCH > SUMTER > FOLSOM > MARRS > SHAW > > Hello PeggySue, In Goss' 1889 book, "A Complete Roll of all Choctaw Claimants and Their Heirs...existing under the Treaties between the United States and the Choctaw Nation....as far as shown by the Records of the United States and of the Choctaw Nation" {whew!} you will find the following listings: Holt -- nothing listed under Holt but under Holth-te-hubbee there are two page listings: 522, 523 McCoy -- 5 names listed Palmer -- nothing under Palmer but under Pal ma there is one page listed: 142 Bunch -- nothing listed nor any similar names listed Sumter -- nothing listed nor any similar names listed Folsom -- 30 names listed Marrs -- nothing under Marrs but there are citations under the following names that may be connected to Marrs: Marsh-h-ner alias Me-ah-sho-nah Mars Honer Mars Hoone or Neah shonah Marssauther Marsalla Shaw -- Joseph, page 26 and the following names which may be related: Shaw-na-am, page 457 *Shaw a homah, *page 64 There were several Folsom's who signed the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek on September 27, 1830 -- Robert Folsom, Jacob Folsom, David Folsom, and Isaac Folsom. However, only one Folsom signed the Supplemental Articles to the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek on September 28, 1830 -- David Folsom. John Craven New Orleans

In a message dated 8/4/2002 1:59:34 PM Central Daylight Time, lindajcox@msn.com writes: > > Here is the descendency on John Brashier Dumas' Brashier Line...it is what I > have gathered. > > Linda in NM > > Hello Linda, I think Dusty is inquiring into your Dumas connection, so I'll tell you what little I can about your Brashears connection as I have found it in Goss' book. In the line you provided, there is a Benjamin Brashears and a Rachel Brashears but they lived a good time before there was any Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek so they wouldn't be on the rolls. However, in Goss' book on "...Choctaw Claimants and their Heirs..." there are citations for Benjamin Brashears and Rachel Brashears. I would think that there's a good chance that they were the grandchildren of your Benjamin Brashears and Rachel Brashears. Or even the great grandchildren of them. There are other Brashears listed as well in Goss' book. You might want to consider contacting OldBuck Press in Conway, Arkansas, and see about getting the book which originally came out in 1889 and has been reprinted by Oldbuck Press, 1025 Watkins St., Conway, Arkansas 72032. It is simply a listing of names of people who claim to be Choctaw and the pages that these claims can be found on in either the Atopka Commission Records or in the US Court Records. I would think that should you ever get any of these records from the US Archives, you will discover the names of others you might not have realized were relatives and the Goss book would be a handy reference for those additional names as well. I don't know if Oldbuck Press has a website but they probably do. John Craven New Orleans

In a message dated 8/4/2002 8:48:54 AM Central Daylight Time, CORINEJOHNSONHUEY@prodigy.net writes: > Hello, John, > By any stretch of the imagination, could your > Bourgeois surname possibly be construed as my d-i-l's > maternal Burgess family? > > Corine in Dallas TX > Hello Corine, I've seen many wonderful spellings of the Bourgeois name but none were close to Burgess. Usually, no matter how atrocious the spelling of the name it is similar in pronounciation or gives the same or a similar sound when pronounced and that just isn't the case with Burgess/Bourgeois as say Bourquoi/Bourgeois which is something I have encountered. John Craven New Orleans

My gggrandmother, Sarah Elmira Rogers Bryan , was a plantiff in a lawsuit aginst the US government in 1919, apparently on behalf of the Mississippii Choctaw Indians. The document I have has a title: "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co. " Claim Agent" Apparently, the document is a receipt for clerical expenses re: a claim against The US Govmt for violation of Choctaw Indians Treaty of 1830. The person who signed ( Im unable to make out the name but it looks like S. J. Cockwell), agreed to have the case prosecuted before US congress & other tribunals, if necessary, as a descendent of the Mississippi Choctaws. Can anyone out there shed some light on this or direct me to where I can gain information. Thanks in advance, Joe Lee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/961 Message Board Post: Hi, I am looking for any information on Tullos from Louisiana. my maternal grandmother was Sadie E. Tullos. I am not sure if Sadie was a nickname or her given name. She lived in Castor, La (Bienville Parish). I am trying to find out if she has Native American ancestry. I remember hearing as a child that she was part Indian ( I can't remember if they said Cherokee or Choctaw) Any information would be greatly appreciated. I don't have any dates of birth or location, but she was married to Benjamin F. Rigdon and she died in Aug. 1982. Thank You, Connie Dove

Here is the descendency on John Brashier Dumas' Brashier Line...it is what I have gathered. Linda in NM Linda Benson Cox Los Alamos, NM lindajcox3@hotmail.com lindajcox@msn.com Descendants of Robert BRASSEUR 1 Robert BRASSEUR 1595 - 1665 .... +Elizabeth Florence Fowke Abt. 1588 - Unknown ... 2 Benoist 'Benjamin' 'John' Brassieur 1612 - 1663 ......... +Mary Richford 1616 - 1668 ......... 3 Robert Brashears 1646 - 1710 ............... +Alice Spriggs 1660 - Aft. 1720 .............. 4 Robert Brasher, Jr. 1686 - Aft. 1726 .................... +Mary Unknown Abt. 1690 - Unknown .................... 5 Thomas Brasher 1706 - 1784 .......................... +Sarah Constance Abt. 1714 - 1745 ......................... 6 John Brasher, Sr. 1736 - Unknown ............................... +Jane Yandell 1738 - Unknown ............................... 7 John Brashier, Jr. 1760 - Unknown ..................................... +Nancy 'Jane Black' Lipsec 1762 - Unknown ..................................... 8 Elizabeth Brashier Abt. 1796 - 1835 ........................................... +Elhannon Winchester Dumas 1779 - 1859 .......................................... 9 John Brashier Dumas 1806 - 1872 ................................................ +Caroline Unknown 1817 - Aft. 1880 ................................................ 10 Lawrence J. 'Thomas' Dumas 1844 - 1902 ...................................................... +Catherine A. 'Cassie' Morris 1850 - Aft. 1920 ..................................................... 11 Maud Florence Dumas 1879 - Abt. 1918 ........................................................... +James 'Frank' Clark 1878 - 1967 ..................................................... 11 Willie E. Dumas 1875 - Unknown ..................................................... 11 Lawrence 'Vernon' Dumas 1877 - Abt. 1950 ........................................................... +Unknown Unknown - Unknown ..................................................... 11 May L. Dumas 1884 - Unknown ........................................................... +Leslie T. 'Les' Brown Unknown - Unknown ..................................................... 11 Ruby Agusta Dumas 1885 - 1975 ........................................................... +Frank Elmo Harris Unknown - Unknown ................................................ 10 Mary Elizabeth Dumas 1835 - 1923 ...................................................... +John Grantham ................................................ *2nd Husband of Mary Elizabeth Dumas: ...................................................... +J. N. Corothers, Rev. ................................................ *3rd Husband of Mary Elizabeth Dumas: ...................................................... +Andy B. Williams Unknown - Unknown ................................................ 10 William E. Dumas Abt. 1838 - Unknown ...................................................... +Rebecca Unknown Unknown - Unknown ................................................ 10 John Pinkney Dumas Abt. 1840 - Unknown ................................................ 10 Thomas Dumas Abt. 1842 - ................................................ 10 James Jackson 'T.' Dumas Abt. 1846 - Unknown ...................................................... +Martha Elizabeth Blanchard Unknown - Unknown ................................................ 10 Augusta Dumas Abt. 1848 - Unknown ................................................ 10 Arbella ' Adella Caroline' Dumas 1851 - Unknown ...................................................... +Monroe Norris Unknown - Unknown ................................................ *2nd Husband of Arbella ' Adella Caroline' Dumas: ...................................................... +Mathias Hardin Unknown - Unknown ................................................ 10 Mollie Dumas Unknown - Unknown ...................................................... +Unknown Smith Unknown - Unknown ................................................ 10 Kate J. Dumas Abt. 1853 - Unknown ................................................ 10 Oliver Dumas Abt. 1855 - Unknown ................................................ 10 Oscar Dumas Abt. 1858 - Unknown ................................................ 10 Emma Emily Dumas Abt. 1860 - Unknown ...................................................... +M M Smith Unknown - Unknown .......................................... 9 Elhannon 'Winchester' Dumas 1804 - Aft. 1853 ................................................ +Louisa Jenkins Unknown - Unknown ................................................ 10 Merrival Fanning Dumas, M.D. 1834 - 1896 ...................................................... +Sarah Ann Real ................................................ *2nd Wife of Merrival Fanning Dumas, M.D.: ...................................................... +Margaret Ann Mason 1846 - 1935 ..................................................... 11 Alex Dumas 1875 - Unknown ..................................................... 11 Murat Dumas 1877 - Unknown ..................................................... 11 Mary F. Dumas 1879 - Unknown ..................................................... 11 Charles Dumas 1882 - Unknown ..................................................... 11 Lula Dumas 1888 - Unknown ................................................ 10 Thaddeus W. Dumas 1837 - ...................................................... +Phoebe 'Huberta' James 1845 - ................................................ 10 Aurelius Whitfield Dumas 1842 - 1913 ...................................................... +Margaret 'Margrette' Ellwood Abt. 1850 - ................................................ 10 Arlington Chesterfield Dumas 1842 - ................................................ 10 Charles I. Dumas ................................................ 10 Caroline Dumas ................................................ 10 Frances Dumas 1832 - ................................................ 10 Harrison Dumas 1840 - ................................................ 10 Chesterfield Dumas 1842 - .......................................... 9 James Pinkney Dumas 1820 - 1875 ................................................ +Mary A.E. Thompson 1824 - 1901 ................................................ 10 Scott S. Dumas 1850 - Unknown ...................................................... +Annie E. Mann 1857 - Unknown ..................................................... 11 James P. Dumas 1879 - ................................................ 10 Filmore J. Dumas 1842 - 1843 ................................................ 10 Texana Dumas 1846 - 1861 ...................................................... +Reece M. Cannon 1835 - 1926 ..................................................... 11 W. Albert Cannon 1863 - 1889 ..................................................... 11 Lena Cannon 1869 - ..................................................... 11 L. Scott Cannon 1871 - Unknown ..................................................... 11 Eula Cannon 1875 - ..................................................... 11 Pearl Cannon 1876 - ................................................ 10 Daniel Henry Dumas 1847 - 1921 ...................................................... +Harriett Pinkney Shipp 1853 - Unknown ..................................................... 11 Eula Belle Dumas 1875 - ..................................................... 11 Walter W. Dumas 1879 - ................................................ 10 Travis M. Dumas 1852 - ...................................................... +Nannie S. Kelly ..................................................... 11 Verna J. Dumas 1874 - ..................................................... 11 Laura Gertrude Dumas 1878 - ..................................................... 11 Lige Dumas 1883 - ................................................ 10 Victoria J. Dumas 1854 - 1916 ...................................................... +Charles H. Herman ..................................................... 11 Roger J. Herman 1873 - 1885 ..................................................... 11 W.L.T. H erman 1875 - ..................................................... 11 Annie B. Herman 1877 - ................................................ *2nd Husband of Victoria J. Dumas: ...................................................... +B. F. Pierce ..................................................... 11 Louis T. Pierce 1882 - ..................................................... 11 Arthur W. Pierce 1883 - ..................................................... 11 Unknown Pierce 1886 - 1886 ................................................ 10 Louis Dumas 1856 - 1923 ...................................................... +Florence Emberson 1861 - ..................................................... 11 Johnnie Dumas 1882 - 1888 ................................................ 10 Leslie L. Dumas 1858 - 1858 ................................................ 10 Lasoro M. Dumas 1863 - 1886 ...................................................... +John Pinkney Wheat 1852 - 1921 ..................................................... 11 James Wheat Unknown - ..................................................... 11 Iva Wheat Unknown - ..................................................... 11 Dumas Wheat Unknown - ................................................ 10 Walter M. Dumas 1863 - 1881 ................................................ 10 Laura Belle Dumas 1867 - 1923 ...................................................... +Will Leslie ..................................................... 11 Gerlean Leslie 1889 - .......................................... 9 David Dumas Abt. 1807 - Unknown ................................................ +Elizabeth Unknown Abt. 1817 - Unknown .......................................... 9 Jackson DeBerry Dumas 1815 - 1884 ................................................ +Elizabeth Halbert Berry 1814 - 1851 .......................................... 9 Jane Dumas Abt. 1816 - Unknown ................................................ +Oliver W. Shipp .......................................... 9 Manley Dumas 1822 - Unknown .......................................... 9 Lawrence Washington Dumas 1823 - 1865 ................................................ +Susan Garrison .......................................... 9 Alson Elhanon Seborn Dumas 1827 - 1852 ................................................ +Mary Ann Hunter 1824 - 1850 ................................................ 10 Missouri Dumas Abt. 1844 - ................................................ 10 Arkansas Dumas Abt. 1846 - ................................................ 10 Louisiana Dumas Abt. 1848 - ................................................ 10 Mary Ann Dumas Abt. 1850 - ................................................ 10 Alson Edgar Seborn Dumas, Sr. 1851 - Unknown .......................................... *2nd Wife of Alson Elhanon Seborn Dumas: ................................................ +Mary Anne Coker Unknown - Unknown ................................................ 10 Alson Edgar Seborn .......................................... 9 Benjamin Dumas III Abt. 1820 - Unknown ................................................ +Lucinda Jenkins Unknown - Unknown .......................................... 9 Francie Dumas .......................................... 9 Pleasant S. Dumas .......................................... 9 Fanny Dumas ................................................ +James W. Wilson .......................................... 9 Elizabeth Dumas ................................................ +Ladock Sturges .......................................... 9 Ann Dumas ................................................ +Lodewick Key .......................................... 9 Sally Dumas ..................................... 8 Jane 'Jean' Brashier 1783 - Unknown ..................................... 8 Lawrence Brashier 1788 - 1875 ........................................... +Sarah 'Sally' Edmonds Unknown - Unknown ..................................... 8 Margaret Brashier 1795 - Unknown ........................................... +Reuben Cook, Jr. Unknown - Unknown ..................................... 8 Keziah Brashier 1797 - 1870 ........................................... +Fleming Thompson Unknown - Unknown .......................................... 9 Mary A. E. Thompson 1824 - 1901 ................................................ +James Pinkney Dumas ..................................... 8 Rachael Brashier Abt. 1802 - Unknown ........................................... +George H. Chrestman Unknown - Unknown ..................................... 8 John Thompson Brashier Abt. 1807 - Unknown ........................................... +Dicey Unknown Unknown - Unknown ..................................... 8 William R. Brashier Abt. 1811 - Unknown ........................................... +Elvira Blythe Unknown - Unknown ..................................... 8 Ben Brashier Unknown - Unknown ..................................... 8 Hokia Brashier Unknown - Unknown ..................................... 8 Isabell Brashier Unknown - Unknown ......................... 6 Henry Brasher Unknown - ......................... 6 Samuel Brasher Unknown - ......................... 6 Thomas Levi Brazier Brasher 1731 - 1789 ......................... 6 William Brasher 1727 - Bef. 1770 ......................... 6 Elizabeth Brasher 1729 - 1729 ......................... 6 Aquilla Brasher 1740 - 1841 ............................... +Irene Cox Unknown - 1842 .................... *2nd Wife of Thomas Brasher: .......................... +Hannah Cox Abt. 1710 - Unknown ......................... 6 Samuel Brasher Unknown - ......................... 6 James Brasher Unknown - ......................... 6 Jean Brasher Unknown - ......................... 6 Rachel Brasher Unknown - ......................... 6 Hannah Brasher Unknown - ......................... 6 Cassia Brasher Unknown - ......................... 6 Mary Brasher Unknown - .................... 5 Pricilla Braizier 1711/12 - Unknown .................... 5 Leonard Brashears 1714 - Unknown .................... 5 Elizabeth Brashears 1721 - Unknown .................... 5 Samuel Braizier Brashears 1723 - Unknown .................... 5 Rachel Braizier 1726 - Unknown .............. 4 Benjamin Brasher 1666 - Unknown .............. 4 Samuel Brasher 1673 - 1740 .................... +Ann Jones Unknown - Unknown ......... 3 John Brashears 1650 - Unknown ......... 3 Mary Brashears Abt. 1645 - Abt. 1713 ......... 3 Benjamin Brashears Bef. 1620 - 1663 ......... 3 Ann BRASHEARS 1650 - ......... 3 Susanah Marie Brashears 1655 - 1692 ......... 3 Martha BRASHEARS 1658 - Unknown ......... 3 Elizabeth BRASHEARS 1654 - ... 2 Persid Brasseur 1628 - Unknown ... 2 Margarett Brasseur 1642 - 1708 ... 2 John Brasseur Abt. 1627 - ... 2 Katherine Brashears 1622 - ... 2 Thomas Brashears 1626 -

What is the name on the Final Dawes roll? The only Dumas I find are Joanna age 39, Lynch age 23 and Mattie age 19. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda2 <lindajcox@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] DUMAS, MORRIS, CLARK > DUMAS, MORRIS, CLARK > > > > For years I have thought that I was part Cherokee. I have just found my grandmother's name on the Dawes roll as Choctaw Mississippi and wonder if anyone has any information regarding this family? > > > > Looking for information on Lawrence J. 'Thomas' Dumas b. 1844 in Choctaw County, MS; he died 1902 in Bald Knob, White Co., Ark. He married Catherine A. 'Cassie' Morris b. 1850 in MS. They were married Bef. 1875 in Probably MS. His parents were John Brashier Dumas born 02 December 1806 in SC and Caroline Unknown born 1817 in SC. They had the following children in MS: Mary Elizabeth Dumas b. 04 July 1835; William E. Dumas b. Abt. 1838; John Pinkney Dumas b. Abt. 1840; Thomas Dumas b. Abt. 1842; James Jackson 'T.' Dumas b. Abt. 1846; Augusta Dumas b. Abt. 1848; Arbella ' Adella Caroline' Dumas b. 13 October 1851; Mollie Dumas b. Unk.; Kate J. Dumas b. Abt. 1853; Oliver Dumas b. Abt. 1855; Oscar Dumas b. Abt. 1858; Emma Emily Dumas b. Abt. April 1860. John Brashier Dumas' nephew, Scott S. Dumas put the family on the Dawes rolls (Mississippi Choctaw) in 1903. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Linda Benson Cox > > Los Alamos, NM > > lindajcox3@hotmail.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm >

Hi John: I have found quite a bit on him - it is the trail on down that gets harder or colder. I will attach what I have, as I agree - in my searches - the name changes... Thanks for replying, Linda in NM Linda Benson Cox 615 Camino Cereza Los Alamos, NM 87544 lindajcox3@hotmail.com lindajcox@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <JohnnyMikeCraven@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] DUMAS, MORRIS, CLARK > In a message dated 8/3/2002 3:09:20 PM Central Daylight Time, > lindajcox@msn.com writes: > > > > His parents were John Brashier Dumas born 02 December 1806 in SC and > > Caroline Unknown born 1817 in SC. > > Hello Linda, > > there have been a number of emails to the list regarding the name > "Brashears" so I would think that your John Brashier Dumas is likely to be > related since often names got corrupted over the years. I'm certain that > someone on the list whose related to a Brashears will check into some of this > for you. Others have indicated that they have ancestors from South Carolina > as well. > > John Craven > New Orleans > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > >

Should have added that Taulbee was Cornelius Rogers' grandfather...JL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lee" <jlee@centex.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:15 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Rogers > Looking for ancestors &/ or descendents of Cornelius Rogers, b Feb 25,1805 in Tennessee, married Elizabeth Anderson in Mississippi in 1827. Lived in Warren County, Georgia & Choctaw County, Ala until move to Texas in 1865. He died Dec 25, 1865 in Lamar County, Texas. > Taulbee, per family tradition, was Choctaw and fought in the American Revolution. > Any help or direction will be graciously appreciated. Thank you, Joe Lee > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

Looking for ancestors &/ or descendents of Cornelius Rogers, b Feb 25,1805 in Tennessee, married Elizabeth Anderson in Mississippi in 1827. Lived in Warren County, Georgia & Choctaw County, Ala until move to Texas in 1865. He died Dec 25, 1865 in Lamar County, Texas. Taulbee, per family tradition, was Choctaw and fought in the American Revolution. Any help or direction will be graciously appreciated. Thank you, Joe Lee

Hello, John, By any stretch of the imagination, could your Bourgeois surname possibly be construed as my d-i-l's maternal Burgess family? Corine in Dallas TX --- Original Message --- From: JohnnyMikeCraven@aol.com To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choquopoulou, Mississippi >Hello list members, > > have any of you encountered a place name around Bay St. Louis, >Mississippi, called Choquopoulou, Mississippi, or spelt Chucupulu, >Mississippi. > > I've discovered this name in the "Dispensation Records" with regard to >some of my Ladner/Bourgeois ancestors and was wondering if it was a Choctaw >name or, if not, was it an Indian name at all and if so from what tribe would >it have been around Bay St. Louis, circa 1801? Where would this place be in >relation to contemporary Bay St. Louis? > > John Craven > New Orleans > > >==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. >

Hello list members, have any of you encountered a place name around Bay St. Louis, Mississippi, called Choquopoulou, Mississippi, or spelt Chucupulu, Mississippi. I've discovered this name in the "Dispensation Records" with regard to some of my Ladner/Bourgeois ancestors and was wondering if it was a Choctaw name or, if not, was it an Indian name at all and if so from what tribe would it have been around Bay St. Louis, circa 1801? Where would this place be in relation to contemporary Bay St. Louis? John Craven New Orleans

In a message dated 8/3/2002 3:09:20 PM Central Daylight Time, lindajcox@msn.com writes: > His parents were John Brashier Dumas born 02 December 1806 in SC and > Caroline Unknown born 1817 in SC. Hello Linda, there have been a number of emails to the list regarding the name "Brashears" so I would think that your John Brashier Dumas is likely to be related since often names got corrupted over the years. I'm certain that someone on the list whose related to a Brashears will check into some of this for you. Others have indicated that they have ancestors from South Carolina as well. John Craven New Orleans

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hollis, Hammond, Gray, Gilmore, Gibbs, Stephens Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/960 Message Board Post: Choctaw Indian female Hollis married John or Samuel HAMMOND and their son, Mathias HAMMOND b. 1790 married Mary GRAY,b. 1796, Sumter Co, AL, 1812. Mary daughter of Bazzle N.B. Gray. Their son Sebron HAMMOND married Frankie GILMORE 1846. Mathias HAMMOND, Sr., father of Sebron B. HAMMOND, said to be one of the first settlers in Newton Co, MS. Amelia Roundtree Hammond, daughter of Sebron and Frankie married Zachariah Louis Gibbs. Their daughter, Rosa Gibbs, married Samuel Morgan Stephens. Their daughter Beulah Amelia Stephens married Newell Henry Simrall Hudson. Their son, Michael Henry Hudson b. 17 Dec 1941, died 28 Feb 1992 is my son's father. Seeking information on female Choctaw Hollis in 1770