Amen to your comments Peggsyellowrose. I think we all would like to be accepted but knowing in your heart is the first step. That is why I'm determine to get involved with the Choctaws, learn the language and culture. It is important to me and future generations. Lori

WHERE ARE THE INDIAN CEMETARIES IN OKLAHOMA? PEGGYSYELLOWROSE

AMEN!! I AGREE. IT'S IN YOUR HEART AND SOUL - YOU JUST KNOW AND FEEL IT. IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ACCEPTED SOMETIMES BUT IN MY HEART I AM PLEASED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE FROM FAMILY AND RESEARCH SHOWING I HAVE IT! EVEN IF IT IS NOT ON A CDIB CARD. PEGGYSYELLOWROSE

In a message dated 8/12/02 2:04:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dustyc@microgear.net writes: > > Andrew: > > I don't see any listings for the Eeds/Edds surnames on the Armstrong Roll > of > 1831, which is a list of those who received land in Miss/Ala. > > dusty > > is Allen on the list?

The Trahern's in the choctaw nation enrolled are from my family, and are not related to the Trahan family, but there were Trahan's in the territory prior to statehood, so they could be choctaw as well ----- Original Message ----- From: <JohnnyMikeCraven@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] William Trahern -- William Trahorn > In a message dated 8/11/2002 5:13:38 PM Central Daylight Time, > lkaj426@bellsouth.net writes: > > > > my last name is Trahan which has many differt spellings could they be the > > same as my last name which is also spelled Trahern and many other ways > > > > Hello ikaj426, > > in the Index of the Spanish Archives of West Florida from 1780 to 1810 > that I recently came across, I encountered many references with the name > Trahan. > > Whether these Trahan's are related to the Trahern or Trahorn mentioned > previously, I don't know but it would seem logical to me. > > John Craven > New Orleans > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. >

This Indian cemetary is in Bentley, Atoka County, Oklahoma. Sandra --- Peggysyellowrose@aol.com wrote: > WHERE ARE THE INDIAN CEMETARIES IN OKLAHOMA? > PEGGYSYELLOWROSE > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's > website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, > genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

Andrew: I don't see any listings for the Eeds/Edds surnames on the Armstrong Roll of 1831, which is a list of those who received land in Miss/Ala. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: <GardenMax22@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:38 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Romulas Rd. Ralph Ala. > Did a person have to be Choctaw to get land on Romulas Rd. Ralph, Ala. > My first cousins and I, are looking for our Indian Blood line EEDS/EDDS @ > ALLEN. We know that some of our second cousins live on and have old deeds to > land on Romulas Rd. Ralph, Ala. If there anything about Romulas Rd. that > would point us to our Choctaw Blood line? > Andrew Eggman > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. >

These are the names of my descendents. They are apparently my ggg grandparents. Anyone have any information? How about a rough translation of what the names mean, if anything?

At this point, I am not certain what information the Goss book has. I have not seen the document, but the name might be Hedges, Hodges, or Hedger. George Ann >From: JohnnyMikeCraven@aol.com >Reply-To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com >To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Great List! >Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 00:57:55 EDT > >In a message dated 8/11/2002 9:39:50 AM Central Daylight Time, >wood_owl@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > Hear! Hear! > > > > The discussions, for me, seem to be bearing more fruit these days. I am > > delighted to pick up any information I can that might give me some clue > > about my grandmother. > > > > George Ann > > > > > >George Ann, > > I checked out Goss' book when I was at the library for any Hedges >but >I found none. Is that the correct name I should be looking for? > > John Craven > New Orleans > > >==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. >Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, >nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

I am hunting ancestors of Paul Homma, b. 1869 who is on the Choctaw rolls. I an not firgure how to get this on this web that gives me all these messages. If you can help in any way, I would appreciate it. My Hommas were from around Atoka, Oklahoma.

I'm planning a trip to the American Indian Center (AIC) in Chicago this week. While there, I want to purchase a book that will help me to learn the Choctaw language. Can anyone make a recommendation? Any other suggestions of things I should do or look for while I'm at the AIC will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lori

Dusty, thank you for the suggestion - I'll try it. I appreciate your reply. Suzie

Pickens County no longer exists. It was part of the Chickasaw Nation and became Carter County with Ardmore as the county seat. I'm not sure of the cemetery you speak of but it may be near the old capitol grounds of the Chickasaw Nation at Tishomingo. Carter County Courthouse Post Office Box 37 Main phone line: 580-223-5253 Toll-Free line inside Carter County: 1-800-231-8668 Extension 253 Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402 Karen Volino Court Clerk Linda- -----------------

Suzie: If I were you I would go to GENFORUM on the net, and find Pickens Co, Oklahoma. There are usually volunteers registered that are knowledgeable and do lookups. Sometimes they will even go to old cemeteries and take pictures of gravestones. I used to do it myself for GENFORUM. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jleflore65@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Pickens County,OKLA > In the approximate 1830's, there was a county in Oklahoma named Pickens > County and was in the Chickasaw Nation. There was a graveyard there near the > Pickens County Courthouse, on Briar Creek. Some of my Choctaw ancestors are > said to be buried there. It is reported the graveyard was on the "Lizzie > Wisdom place". Does anyone have, or know of, a map that shows where the old > graveyard, the old courthouse, or Lizzie Wisdom's place might have been? I > will only assume that there was a town called Pickens. A cousin has a map > showing Pickens County, but the only town shown there is Oakland. Was > Oakland the county seat of Pickens County? Clemmie Sacra's grandmother is > said to be buried there and we're trying to determine who she was. > > If anyone has any information that would help us find this graveyard, we > would appreciate it very much. > Suzie > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

Folks...this conversation is drifting from Choctaw artifacts into the area of politics. Could we please take it to the CHAHTA-L list! Thanks. dusty List Admin.

Thank you, John! Prayer means an awful lot to me. The cancer seems to be in remission thanks to the prayers of relatives and friends. Lori

This is not exactly true. As an Okie, I can confirm only part of what you say. Oklahoma became a state in 1907. However, it has existed in its largely intact form for much longer. My grandmother lived here when it was Indian Territory and they lived on Chief John Ross' land over by Tahlequah. My ggrandfathers made the run into Oklahoma in 1889. However, the shape of the state and the land it encloses has remained approximately the same since the Indian removal here in the early 1800's. As we Okies like to say, Baja Oklahoma (also known as Texas) was once part of us--not vice versa! (smile)

Did a person have to be Choctaw to get land on Romulas Rd. Ralph, Ala. My first cousins and I, are looking for our Indian Blood line EEDS/EDDS @ ALLEN. We know that some of our second cousins live on and have old deeds to land on Romulas Rd. Ralph, Ala. If there anything about Romulas Rd. that would point us to our Choctaw Blood line? Andrew Eggman

In a message dated 8/11/2002 5:13:38 PM Central Daylight Time, lkaj426@bellsouth.net writes: > my last name is Trahan which has many differt spellings could they be the > same as my last name which is also spelled Trahern and many other ways > Hello ikaj426, in the Index of the Spanish Archives of West Florida from 1780 to 1810 that I recently came across, I encountered many references with the name Trahan. Whether these Trahan's are related to the Trahern or Trahorn mentioned previously, I don't know but it would seem logical to me. John Craven New Orleans