Hello Stacie, The auction of this book stirred quite a controversy. It seems that the antique dealer who was attempting to sell it on Ebay chose instead to donate it to the Choctaw museum in Talihina. Please check with Terry Cole in the tribal heritage office. I was told that the seller caught wind of legal proceedings by the tribe to prevent the public sale of this book since it is a governmental record book that is the property of the Choctaw Nation and not legally title-able to private ownership. In actuality, I do not know the final disposition or the behind the scene's story. I was just one of the bidders who was trying to win the auction in order to repatriate the book for our people. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Stacie Lemanski [mailto:anastasha7@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:18 PM To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw book Has anyone heard where this book has gone? I would really like to get my hands on it. I was told it was going to a museum. http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=884234141#DESC Stacie <><Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......
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thank you to both of you, angelyn & patty, i appreciate the info. thank you peggy
Edward Allen, Samuel A. Allen, Thomas Allen. The only one of these I have futher info. on is Samuel A. Allen. The others are referenced from Volume VII, "Public Lands", of the American State Papers. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: <GardenMax22@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Romulas Rd. Ralph Ala. > In a message dated 8/12/02 2:04:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > dustyc@microgear.net writes: > > > > > > Andrew: > > > > I don't see any listings for the Eeds/Edds surnames on the Armstrong Roll > > of > > 1831, which is a list of those who received land in Miss/Ala. > > > > dusty > > > > > > is Allen on the list? > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST >
Your Paul Homma is on family census card no. 1826, Choctaw by Blood on the Final Dawes roll of 1896. Write to the National Archives Southwest Branch, P. O. Box 6216, Ft. Worth, Texas 76115 and ask for copies of the documents in his enrollment packet, including a copy of the original application. He should have listed his parents on that application. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: <Grannymax4@cs.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Mississippi Choctaw ancestry > I am hunting ancestors of Paul Homma, b. 1869 who is on the Choctaw rolls. > I an not firgure how to get this on this web that gives me all these messages. > If you can help in any way, I would appreciate it. My Hommas were from > around Atoka, Oklahoma. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >
Yakoke, John, Can you tell me the date on that list? George Ann >From: JohnnyMikeCraven@aol.com >Reply-To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com >To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Great List! >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:32:46 EDT > >In a message dated 8/12/2002 9:56:08 AM Central Daylight Time, >wood_owl@hotmail.com writes: > > > > At this point, I am not certain what information the Goss book has. I >have > > not seen the document, but the name might be Hedges, Hodges, or Hedger. > > > > George Ann > > > >George Ann, > > I looked again in the Goss book but saw nothing along these lines >as >far as names go but I did see Hegah, Hogee, Hogay, Ho-b-gah but I don't >think any thing like these names are close to what you are interested in. > > John Craven > New Orleans > > >==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: >Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Have you tried looking for information about Richard Wright? There are quite a few Wrights in that area. You might be able to begin a trace that way. George Ann >From: SANDYBANKS Computer Services <sbanksstarchasers@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com >To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Patience (Pasha) Jane Roberts Sawyer(s) >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:05:05 -0700 (PDT) > >The deal is that her grave is unmarked. I know that >she is there as I have her death certificate. > >I am currently looking for her connections to the >Choctaw. Her sister Mary married a Richard Wright. Her >brother "Bud" married a Lottie Brown but that is about >all the info I have. Supposed to have sisters named >Pamela and Victoria also but I have had no luck >finding any other information. > >Sandra > > >--- ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM <angelync@msn.com> wrote: > > Go to http://www.google.com and type Indian > > cemeteries in Oklahoma. You should find whatever > > you're looking for there. > > Angelyn > > > > ------ Original Message ----- > > > > From: Peggysyellowrose@aol.com > > Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2002 6:15pm > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Patience (Pasha) Jane > > Roberts Sawyer(s) > > WHERE ARE THE INDIAN CEMETARIES IN OKLAHOMA? > > PEGGYSYELLOWROSE > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's > > website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, > > genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? > > Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the > > listowner, at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com > > >==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the >list. Write to me, the listowner, at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
my ggrandfather Ulla Onischka is reported in Jefferson Med Collegem, Phila as being from Doaksville Did you find any persons of that surname in vol 4? We have no information about him other than the College report. i knew him personally before his death in 1930 He is buried in Phila. Any news is welcome Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Patience (Pasha) Jane Roberts Sawyer(s) > The Choctaw County Genealogical Society: P.O. Box 1056; Hugo, OK 74743 > FAX 580-326-5556 > On-line help: swink1@prodigy.net > The Society has published 7 volumes of Choctaw County Cemetery records, $15 each plus $3.95 postage. They've also enumerated 60 of the 65 some cemeteries in their county and all known tombstone plus Soper, Snow and Coffee funeral home records. Make checks payable to C.C.G.S. Following are the enumberated cemeteries with the numbers in parenthesis indicating the BOOK in which the names and date are printed: > Burgoyne (Mt. Olivet); Choctaw (5); Cloninger Family; Cold Springs (7); Crosley (2); (Bill) Crowder; Dixon Chapel (3); Doaksville/Ft. Towson (4); Durant; Everidge (1); Fort Towson (at the Fort); Frogville; Gay/Antioch(2); Goodland(2); Goodwater/Missionary; Good Springs(7); Grant(7); Hampton Chapel(7); High Hill(3); Homer Chapel(7); Hart/Crowder(7); Holder/Clark Holder; Honey Springs(7); Jackson Family (7); Jasper(6); Jerusalem(7); Mayhew; Messer/Woodlawn; McKee Family (7); Mt. Olive(2); Mt. Olivet/Burgoyne; Nelson/Sweet Hill(2); Oakes (1); Payton/Dwight/Dill; Pierce(7); Pigeon Roost (6); Pleasant Hill; Restland(Boswell); Roebuck(2); Rose Hill(1); Rose Hill - slaves; Round Mountain; Sawyer(1); Shoals(1); Shoat Springs(1); Snead; Sobel; Soper(6); Speer/Cooksville (3); Spencer Academy; Spencerville(3); Spring(5); Spring Chapel(5); Springhill/Eastern Star(3); Sugar Creek(7); Swink Community(3); Timber Hill; Wade(7). > I purchased Volume 4, Doaksville/Ft. Towson (2,021 graves) looking for Fishers, Hays, Hayes and LeFlores. None of the first 3 surnames. The LeFlores are Agnes 1905-1973; Ezra G. 1910-1965; Leonard Wayne 1947-1948; Rosa Lee 1912-1973; Silma Cecil 1905-1906; Susan 1867-1917; Tobe L. 1908-1971; Travis(trapp) -no dates; V.O. (midge) no dates; Willie N. 1906-1986; Zadog 1848-1896. Bet the latter should be spelled Zadoc, not 'g'. > Angelyn > > ------ Original Message ----- > > From: Pattyg74056@cs.com > Sent: Tue, Aug 13, 2002 10:19pm > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Patience (Pasha) Jane Roberts Sawyer(s) > PeggyYellowRose, Regarding Indian and early pioneer cemeteries in Oklahoma, > the Poteau Valley Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 1031, Poteau, OK 74953, > several > years ago published a series of these early cemeteries in eastern Oklahoma. > You might write them for information on the volumes. Volume 13 covers some > of the LeFlore Co. cemeteries, including Skullyville begun in about 1830; > however, there seem to be few of the early graves marked. Also, the Bryan > Co. Heritage Assn. Inc., has published several volumes of Bryan Co. , OK, > cemeteries. I have Vol. IV, which covers the Pioneer Cemetery and Highland > Cemetery in Durant, OK. They also have published two volumes with the > Choctaw Emigration Records 1831-1856. > Hope this helps! pattyg74056@cs.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >
Another wonderful resource, the Bryan County Heritage Assn., has produced numerous books on Blue County cemeteries; court records; births and deaths; marriages; census records; "Old Red River,Ancestor Charts & Family Sheets (615 pages); Choctaw Emigration records; Choctaw & Chickasaw Confederate Soldiers Indices; Choctaw court records -Blue County; Chickasaw court records for several counties; wills & probates for Grayson County, TX; and more. They can be reached at Bryan County Heritage Ass'n., Inc., P.O. Box 153, Calera, OK 74730-0153, phone 580-434-5848. Suzie
Has anyone heard where this book has gone? I would really like to get my hands on it. I was told it was going to a museum. http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=884234141#DESC Stacie <><Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
In a message dated 8/12/02 2:04:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dustyc@microgear.net writes: > Dusty, Our Eeds/ Edds ancestors have a deed of land on the Romulas Rd. formally Choctaw rd. in 1839. Would then have been Choctaw or was that to late to be Choctaw? OUR COUSIN STILL LIVE ON THE LAND. Andrew > > > Did a person have to be Choctaw to get land on Romulas Rd. Ralph, Ala. > > My first cousins and I, are looking for our Indian Blood line EEDS/EDDS @ > > ALLEN. We know that some of our second cousins live on and have old deeds > to > > land on Romulas Rd. Ralph, Ala. If there anything about Romulas Rd. that > > would point us to our Choctaw Blood line? > > Andrew Eggman > > > > >
P.S. The Skullyville Cemetery site is: www.skullyville.com One of the 'webmasters' Wm. Blanchard, is a retired physician and a long-time family friend from our youthful (sigh) days in Purcell, OK. Angelyn angelync@msn.com ------ Original Message ----- From: Pattyg74056@cs.com Sent: Tue, Aug 13, 2002 10:19pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Patience (Pasha) Jane Roberts Sawyer(s) PeggyYellowRose, Regarding Indian and early pioneer cemeteries in Oklahoma, the Poteau Valley Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 1031, Poteau, OK 74953, several years ago published a series of these early cemeteries in eastern Oklahoma. You might write them for information on the volumes. Volume 13 covers some of the LeFlore Co. cemeteries, including Skullyville begun in about 1830; however, there seem to be few of the early graves marked. Also, the Bryan Co. Heritage Assn. Inc., has published several volumes of Bryan Co. , OK, cemeteries. I have Vol. IV, which covers the Pioneer Cemetery and Highland Cemetery in Durant, OK. They also have published two volumes with the Choctaw Emigration Records 1831-1856. Hope this helps! pattyg74056@cs.com ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm
The Choctaw County Genealogical Society: P.O. Box 1056; Hugo, OK 74743 FAX 580-326-5556 On-line help: swink1@prodigy.net The Society has published 7 volumes of Choctaw County Cemetery records, $15 each plus $3.95 postage. They've also enumerated 60 of the 65 some cemeteries in their county and all known tombstone plus Soper, Snow and Coffee funeral home records. Make checks payable to C.C.G.S. Following are the enumberated cemeteries with the numbers in parenthesis indicating the BOOK in which the names and date are printed: Burgoyne (Mt. Olivet); Choctaw (5); Cloninger Family; Cold Springs (7); Crosley (2); (Bill) Crowder; Dixon Chapel (3); Doaksville/Ft. Towson (4); Durant; Everidge (1); Fort Towson (at the Fort); Frogville; Gay/Antioch(2); Goodland(2); Goodwater/Missionary; Good Springs(7); Grant(7); Hampton Chapel(7); High Hill(3); Homer Chapel(7); Hart/Crowder(7); Holder/Clark Holder; Honey Springs(7); Jackson Family (7); Jasper(6); Jerusalem(7); Mayhew; Messer/Woodlawn; McKee Family (7); Mt. Olive(2); Mt. Olivet/Burgoyne; Nelson/Sweet Hill(2); Oakes (1); Payton/Dwight/Dill; Pierce(7); Pigeon Roost (6); Pleasant Hill; Restland(Boswell); Roebuck(2); Rose Hill(1); Rose Hill - slaves; Round Mountain; Sawyer(1); Shoals(1); Shoat Springs(1); Snead; Sobel; Soper(6); Speer/Cooksville (3); Spencer Academy; Spencerville(3); Spring(5); Spring Chapel(5); Springhill/Eastern Star(3); Sugar Creek(7); Swink Community(3); Timber Hill; Wade(7). I purchased Volume 4, Doaksville/Ft. Towson (2,021 graves) looking for Fishers, Hays, Hayes and LeFlores. None of the first 3 surnames. The LeFlores are Agnes 1905-1973; Ezra G. 1910-1965; Leonard Wayne 1947-1948; Rosa Lee 1912-1973; Silma Cecil 1905-1906; Susan 1867-1917; Tobe L. 1908-1971; Travis(trapp) -no dates; V.O. (midge) no dates; Willie N. 1906-1986; Zadog 1848-1896. Bet the latter should be spelled Zadoc, not 'g'. Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Pattyg74056@cs.com Sent: Tue, Aug 13, 2002 10:19pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Patience (Pasha) Jane Roberts Sawyer(s) PeggyYellowRose, Regarding Indian and early pioneer cemeteries in Oklahoma, the Poteau Valley Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 1031, Poteau, OK 74953, several years ago published a series of these early cemeteries in eastern Oklahoma. You might write them for information on the volumes. Volume 13 covers some of the LeFlore Co. cemeteries, including Skullyville begun in about 1830; however, there seem to be few of the early graves marked. Also, the Bryan Co. Heritage Assn. Inc., has published several volumes of Bryan Co. , OK, cemeteries. I have Vol. IV, which covers the Pioneer Cemetery and Highland Cemetery in Durant, OK. They also have published two volumes with the Choctaw Emigration Records 1831-1856. Hope this helps! pattyg74056@cs.com ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm
Halito Elkdreamer: That is good to know. I will make it a priority to first learn the words that I need in prayer. Prayer in any language works miracles. I am so very thankful for all the relatives and friends who have prayed for me regarding my health and well being. Again, thank you for your wisdom. Lori
thank you ever so much!!!peggy
In a message dated 8/12/2002 9:56:08 AM Central Daylight Time, wood_owl@hotmail.com writes: > At this point, I am not certain what information the Goss book has. I have > not seen the document, but the name might be Hedges, Hodges, or Hedger. > > George Ann > George Ann, I looked again in the Goss book but saw nothing along these lines as far as names go but I did see Hegah, Hogee, Hogay, Ho-b-gah but I don't think any thing like these names are close to what you are interested in. John Craven New Orleans
Hello Shellie, In Goss' book, there is the following: Anolata, 316, 193, 243 Hotaka, 1005 r.c.Ho-ta-kah, 376 [R.C. 676], 1089, 1090 Note that the name spelled with hyphens and probably pronounced similat to your Ho-ta-ka was classified as a rejected Choctaw, r.c., but that the name without the hyphes and spelled exactly as yours with the hyphens was not a rejected Choctaw. The numbers behind each name are the page numbers where these names appear in the US Court records or, if there is an asterisk, in the Atopka board records. John Craven New Orleans
Hello GrannyMax4 and list members, there are a number of people named Homma listed in the Goss book as well as Homa and Homah and Homar. There are 5 names listed under Homma and 4 listed under Homa, 2 listed under Homah and 2 listed under Homar. None of the names listed under either Homma or Homa were of a Paul Homma. There was an Anna, Jincy, Selina, & Thomas Homa and an Allen, Cornelius, Estonia, J. and Nokon Homma. I forgot to write down the other names for Homah and Homar. Hope this helps. John Craven New Orleans
In a message dated 8/13/2002 10:09:23 PM Central Daylight Time, nancy_12344@hotmail.com writes: > I don't know. It seems no one in the family knows anything about Sam (John) > Foster except that he was an "Indian". I got the info about him being born > in Alabama from the Union Parish, Louisiana 1900 Census. I just wish I > knew more about him. > > Hello Nancy, I don't know if this will be of help to you but in the Goss book, "A Complete List of Choctaw Claimants and their Heirs..." there are 9 names of Foster's listed. However, none of them are Sam (John) Foster. It is possible however that one of those Foster's listed in Goss' book is a relative of your Sam (John) Foster and may link you to some info about him. John Craven New Orleans