That was from me, and yakoke! Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Bounds family name > Lori: > > Yes - you are looking at records from the Dawes roll, and it's "Choctaw by > Blood". > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: okeefolkie <okeefolkie@mindspring.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:16 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Bounds family name > > > > Is the Dawes Roll the same as NARA's Choctaw by Birth? This can be so > > confusing! > > Thanks again, Lori > > SandyM > > > > > > Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: > > ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** > > email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com > > Or Call: 561-924-7955 > > Sandy Mercer > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Lori0602h@aol.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 7:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Bounds family name > > > > > > > Sandy: > > > > > > Don't worry about hanging back. Say what you feel is in your heart and > > keep > > > moving on. I found your comments quite interesting. > > > > > > As for your Gilliam Bounds not being on the Dawes Rolls, you might want > to > > > look at the "rejected" files. I found my ancestors there even though I > > know > > > they were Choctaw. I obtained the case file numbers and ordered the > case > > > files. It was such interesting reading. So, be sure to check the > > rejected > > > files. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > Lori > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to > the > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST >

Well, I have looked, but must have missed the "10th." <gg> At any rate, Elkdreamer sent me the URL,and I am now subscribed. yakoke both of you! Sandy Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com Or Call: 561-924-7955 Sandy Mercer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Subscribing to CHAHTA-L > Instructions for subscribing to CHAHTA-L appear every 10th message in the > tagline (at the end of your messages. Those taglines are important, and > contain info on how to unsub, other lists, etc. I hope you guys take time > to look at them. > > Write to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "subscribe" in the body of the message. The system will read your > return address and add it to the list. > > dusty > List Admin. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: okeefolkie <okeefolkie@mindspring.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > > > > How do I subscribe to the Chahta-L list? > > Sandy > > > > > > Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: > > ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** > > email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com > > Or Call: 561-924-7955 > > Sandy Mercer > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Lee" <jlee@centex.net> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > > > > > > > Thanks, Dusty...JL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:05 AM > > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > > > > > > > > > > People - we're drifting again...PLEASE confine your postings to the > > > > CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST list to CHOCTAW GENEALOGY. > > > > > > > > For discussions of culture, history, racism, etc, let's take it to the > > > > CHAHTA-L list. > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > List Admin. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <JohnnyMikeCraven@aol.com> > > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:34 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] slavery > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/1/2002 11:04:29 AM Central Daylight Time, > > > > > wood_owl@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard, according to Hitler, he based his racial policies on > those > > of > > > > the > > > > > > US. If anyone is interested in this topic, I have a book coming > out > > in > > > > the > > > > > > next several months entitled Holocaust of Native America: An > > > > Introduction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The father of Modern Society and the one who, either directly or > > > > indirectly, > > > > > inspired Hitler's racial policies the most, was Margaret Sanger, one > > of > > > > the > > > > > most diabolically evil human beings ever to walk the face of the > > earth. > > > > But > > > > > don't take my word for it. > > > > > Look up her writings in the Journal of the American Birth Control > > League > > > > from > > > > > the early 1900's. Look no further than one of her most cherished > > > > projects, > > > > > "The Negroe Project" designed to eliminate the Negroe race. Many of > > her > > > > > fellow eugenicists from the early 1900's, and later, such as Lothrop > > > > > Stoddard, were ardent supporters of Adolph Hitler, as was she. She > > was > > > > the > > > > > founder of Planned Parenthood. The KKK and David Duke and others > have > > > > > absolutely nothing on her where racial hatred is concerned. She > could > > > > teach > > > > > them a lot. > > > > > > > > > > But again don't take my word on it. There is an excellent > book > > > > > written by Elasah Drogin of New Hope, Kentucky, entitled "Margaret > > > Sanger: > > > > > Father of Modern Society." first published in 1979. Elasah Drogin > was > > a > > > > > Jewish woman who converted to Christianity and she did an excellent > > job > > > of > > > > > researching her subject. The book is available from New Hope > > > > Publications, > > > > > New Hope, Kentucky 40052 (270-325-3061) for a very reasonable price > of > > > > $6.00. > > > > > It's had several printings since it was first published in 1979. > It > > is > > > > 127 > > > > > pages long and one of the most powerful and compelling books that > you > > > will > > > > > ever read. > > > > > > > > > > John Craven > > > > > New Orleans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > > quotes > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? > Check our archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

As I recall, he doesn't have a computer, but I will pass along the message if I run into him. I didn't find any documentation of Choctaw blood in the family, although I'm sure it's there. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: okeefolkie <okeefolkie@mindspring.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Bounds family name > Dusty - any chance you remember the person you did the research for? You > have my permission to give them my email address,

Instructions for subscribing to CHAHTA-L appear every 10th message in the tagline (at the end of your messages. Those taglines are important, and contain info on how to unsub, other lists, etc. I hope you guys take time to look at them. Write to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com Type "subscribe" in the body of the message. The system will read your return address and add it to the list. dusty List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: okeefolkie <okeefolkie@mindspring.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > How do I subscribe to the Chahta-L list? > Sandy > > > Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: > ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** > email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com > Or Call: 561-924-7955 > Sandy Mercer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Lee" <jlee@centex.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > > > > Thanks, Dusty...JL > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:05 AM > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > > > > > > > People - we're drifting again...PLEASE confine your postings to the > > > CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST list to CHOCTAW GENEALOGY. > > > > > > For discussions of culture, history, racism, etc, let's take it to the > > > CHAHTA-L list. > > > > > > dusty > > > List Admin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <JohnnyMikeCraven@aol.com> > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:34 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] slavery > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/1/2002 11:04:29 AM Central Daylight Time, > > > > wood_owl@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard, according to Hitler, he based his racial policies on those > of > > > the > > > > > US. If anyone is interested in this topic, I have a book coming out > in > > > the > > > > > next several months entitled Holocaust of Native America: An > > > Introduction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The father of Modern Society and the one who, either directly or > > > indirectly, > > > > inspired Hitler's racial policies the most, was Margaret Sanger, one > of > > > the > > > > most diabolically evil human beings ever to walk the face of the > earth. > > > But > > > > don't take my word for it. > > > > Look up her writings in the Journal of the American Birth Control > League > > > from > > > > the early 1900's. Look no further than one of her most cherished > > > projects, > > > > "The Negroe Project" designed to eliminate the Negroe race. Many of > her > > > > fellow eugenicists from the early 1900's, and later, such as Lothrop > > > > Stoddard, were ardent supporters of Adolph Hitler, as was she. She > was > > > the > > > > founder of Planned Parenthood. The KKK and David Duke and others have > > > > absolutely nothing on her where racial hatred is concerned. She could > > > teach > > > > them a lot. > > > > > > > > But again don't take my word on it. There is an excellent book > > > > written by Elasah Drogin of New Hope, Kentucky, entitled "Margaret > > Sanger: > > > > Father of Modern Society." first published in 1979. Elasah Drogin was > a > > > > Jewish woman who converted to Christianity and she did an excellent > job > > of > > > > researching her subject. The book is available from New Hope > > > Publications, > > > > New Hope, Kentucky 40052 (270-325-3061) for a very reasonable price of > > > $6.00. > > > > It's had several printings since it was first published in 1979. It > is > > > 127 > > > > pages long and one of the most powerful and compelling books that you > > will > > > > ever read. > > > > > > > > John Craven > > > > New Orleans > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST >

Lori: Yes - you are looking at records from the Dawes roll, and it's "Choctaw by Blood". dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: okeefolkie <okeefolkie@mindspring.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Bounds family name > Is the Dawes Roll the same as NARA's Choctaw by Birth? This can be so > confusing! > Thanks again, Lori > SandyM > > > Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: > ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** > email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com > Or Call: 561-924-7955 > Sandy Mercer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Lori0602h@aol.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Bounds family name > > > > Sandy: > > > > Don't worry about hanging back. Say what you feel is in your heart and > keep > > moving on. I found your comments quite interesting. > > > > As for your Gilliam Bounds not being on the Dawes Rolls, you might want to > > look at the "rejected" files. I found my ancestors there even though I > know > > they were Choctaw. I obtained the case file numbers and ordered the case > > files. It was such interesting reading. So, be sure to check the > rejected > > files. > > > > Good luck. > > > > Lori > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

Philadelphia, Miss. is about six miles from the Miss. Choctaw reservation. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: crush53318 Rushing <crush53318@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Ward Family > I have benn reserching my father's family. I have been told my great > grandfather was Choctaw. I have been only able to find the following and > wanted to know if anyone else has any information? Any input will be > appreciated. > > from the 1900 census taken 6/1 Richmond county Georgia > Ward, Andrew J. husband > Ward, Louise M. wife > Ward, Henry son age 17 born 1882 > > from the 1920 census taken January 1 Richmond county Georgia > Ward, Henry C. husband age 37 stated his father and mother were born in > Georgia > Ward, Hattie wife age 29 stated her father and mother were born in South > Carolina > > from the 1920 census taken January 5 Greenville City South Carolina > Ward, Louise M. age 77 widowed > > We know that Henry C. Ward later married Floy Albertie Maxwell and had 4 > children starting with the first born in 1933. > > I'm trying to determine more information about Andrew J. Ward and to > determine if he was Choctaw. He was supposed to have told one of my uncles > about being from a small town in Mississippi called Philadelphia, but when > Henry C. Ward answered questions on the 1920 census, he said both his > parents were born in Georgia. thanks again for inpu > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. >

Halito All: I have discovered that my g-grandparents used to take the family to the Choctaw reservation to visit family. Their names were: H. S. (Hannibal or Hamilton? Sanders) known as Sanders McNabb (McNab, McKnab McKnabb)and Elizabeth "Betsie" Hanks McNabb. Children: James Harvey, Mary E., Louisa E., Isaac W., Robert, Sarah F., William F., Fielding, Arminnia, Elizabeth, Evalena (Lena) Sanders Mcnabb was the son of Isaac and Elizabeth_____? Mcnabb. Elizabeth "Betsie" Hanks McNabb, my g-grandmother was the daughter of William Hanks and Louisa possibly Elizabeth Louisa Hall. William Hanks was the son of Fielding Hanks and Lydia Harper Hanks (daughter of John and Mary Ann _____? Harper and first born in Boonesborough). I have listed the above mentioned surnames as clues for anyone who might recognize this story. I have also listed surnames on this sight 07/13/02, which is a more comprehensive listing of surnames in my family attempting enrollment in the Choctaw Nation under the "Dawes Act". If anyone recognizes this story, please contact me on this sight or on my email. Imafo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

Halito and good morning Sandy You are welcome Walk in Beauty Elkdreamer

yakoke, Elkdreamer Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com Or Call: 561-924-7955 Sandy Mercer ----- Original Message ----- From: <ElkDremr@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > Halito Sandy > Send a letter to (CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com) and put subscribe in the body of > the letter. > Walk in Beauty > Elkdreamer > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST >

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I have benn reserching my father's family. I have been told my great grandfather was Choctaw. I have been only able to find the following and wanted to know if anyone else has any information? Any input will be appreciated. from the 1900 census taken 6/1 Richmond county Georgia Ward, Andrew J. husband Ward, Louise M. wife Ward, Henry son age 17 born 1882 from the 1920 census taken January 1 Richmond county Georgia Ward, Henry C. husband age 37 stated his father and mother were born in Georgia Ward, Hattie wife age 29 stated her father and mother were born in South Carolina from the 1920 census taken January 5 Greenville City South Carolina Ward, Louise M. age 77 widowed We know that Henry C. Ward later married Floy Albertie Maxwell and had 4 children starting with the first born in 1933. I'm trying to determine more information about Andrew J. Ward and to determine if he was Choctaw. He was supposed to have told one of my uncles about being from a small town in Mississippi called Philadelphia, but when Henry C. Ward answered questions on the 1920 census, he said both his parents were born in Georgia. thanks again for inpu _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

The spelling of Choctaw words has not been standardized although many people defer to Byington's Dictionary published in the 1800's. George Ann >From: Barbara Ellison <greybird7@pisp.net> >Reply-To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com >To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw questions >Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:16:31 -0500 > >Since the Choctaw language wasn't a written language, writing it now is >relatively new, so there is no actual correct or incorrect way of spelling >the words...It depends on who taught you...I spell it YOKOKE because that's >how it was taught to me, and that's how it sounds when spoken to me by >fluent speakers...YO with a hardish O sound.. >B.E. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Lori0602h@aol.com> >To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:36 AM >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw questions > > > > Thanks for the correction. I humbly apologize if I offended anyone by > > misspelling the word "Yakoke." > > > > Lori > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the >list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at >http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

I have the Byington dictionary and it does say 'yakoke"..and another deffinition of it is " when said slowly means regret..."..when said fast means " thanks or pleasure" deana ----- Original Message ----- From: george ann gregory <wood_owl@hotmail.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw questions > The spelling of Choctaw words has not been standardized although many people > defer to Byington's Dictionary published in the 1800's. > > George Ann > > > >From: Barbara Ellison <greybird7@pisp.net> > >Reply-To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw questions > >Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:16:31 -0500 > > > >Since the Choctaw language wasn't a written language, writing it now is > >relatively new, so there is no actual correct or incorrect way of spelling > >the words...It depends on who taught you...I spell it YOKOKE because that's > >how it was taught to me, and that's how it sounds when spoken to me by > >fluent speakers...YO with a hardish O sound.. > >B.E. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <Lori0602h@aol.com> > >To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:36 AM > >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw questions > > > > > > > Thanks for the correction. I humbly apologize if I offended anyone by > > > misspelling the word "Yakoke." > > > > > > Lori > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > >list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > >Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > >http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

Joe, did Cornelius Rogers have a middle name or other name. A Clement C. Rogers received Township 9, Range 3 West on Jan 30, 1860, "Abstracts of Land Sold at St. stephens March 1859-Jan. 1861, Book 077." Several Land Acts were passed in 1820 giving people an opportunity to return part of the land they had purchased earlier on credit (called Land Relinquishment Acts) People could buy 160 acres for 1/4th down and pay rest off in 3 years. Many people had to give up part of their land because they could not make payment. They could return part of it and keep what that had paid for. Many actually received title at a later date. I did the research for St. Stephens Historicl Commission an agency established to develop the site of Old St.Stephens, Alabama's Territorial capital into a state park. I also wrote the History of Washington County: The first County in Alabama where St. Stephens Land Office was established in 1803 while it was the Mississippi Territory. I will keep an eye out for Cornelius Rogers. Could his father have been William Rogers? William was in area as early as 1797 under Spanish rule. Good luck with your search, Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lee" <jlee@centex.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Cornelius Rogers; Alabama Land Record > My ggggrandfather was Choctaw. I found a Land Record in Alabama; Saint > Stephens Land Office. The issue date was May 1; 1861 for 39.91 acres. The > document number is 16139.Also states: Act or Treaty, April 24 1820. Is it > possible that this is land granted to him through a Treaty with US govmt. > Any help or direction will be most graciously appreciated. Thanks, Joe > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Joe I would like to ask a question. Is your gggGrandfather a Lee? I have Lee ancestors. Skydancer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lee" <jlee@centex.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:47 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Cornelius Rogers; Alabama Land Record My ggggrandfather was Choctaw. I found a Land Record in Alabama; Saint Stephens Land Office. The issue date was May 1; 1861 for 39.91 acres. The document number is 16139.Also states: Act or Treaty, April 24 1820. Is it possible that this is land granted to him through a Treaty with US govmt. Any help or direction will be most graciously appreciated. Thanks, Joe ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com

His name was Cornelius Rogers...born at Wheelwright, Tennessee Feb 25 1805. Either his father or grandafather's name was Taulbee ( sp ). Thanks, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skydancer" <skydancer@artddc.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Lee Info > Joe > I would like to ask a question. Is your gggGrandfather a Lee? > I have Lee ancestors. > Skydancer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Lee" <jlee@centex.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:47 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Cornelius Rogers; Alabama Land Record > > > My ggggrandfather was Choctaw. I found a Land Record in Alabama; Saint > Stephens Land Office. The issue date was May 1; 1861 for 39.91 acres. The > document number is 16139.Also states: Act or Treaty, April 24 1820. Is it > possible that this is land granted to him through a Treaty with US govmt. > Any help or direction will be most graciously appreciated. Thanks, Joe > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

My ggggrandfather was Choctaw. I found a Land Record in Alabama; Saint Stephens Land Office. The issue date was May 1; 1861 for 39.91 acres. The document number is 16139.Also states: Act or Treaty, April 24 1820. Is it possible that this is land granted to him through a Treaty with US govmt. Any help or direction will be most graciously appreciated. Thanks, Joe

How do I subscribe to the Chahta-L list? Sandy Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com Or Call: 561-924-7955 Sandy Mercer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lee" <jlee@centex.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > Thanks, Dusty...JL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:05 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] FROM LISTOWNER > > > > People - we're drifting again...PLEASE confine your postings to the > > CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST list to CHOCTAW GENEALOGY. > > > > For discussions of culture, history, racism, etc, let's take it to the > > CHAHTA-L list. > > > > dusty > > List Admin. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <JohnnyMikeCraven@aol.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:34 AM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] slavery > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/1/2002 11:04:29 AM Central Daylight Time, > > > wood_owl@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard, according to Hitler, he based his racial policies on those of > > the > > > > US. If anyone is interested in this topic, I have a book coming out in > > the > > > > next several months entitled Holocaust of Native America: An > > Introduction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The father of Modern Society and the one who, either directly or > > indirectly, > > > inspired Hitler's racial policies the most, was Margaret Sanger, one of > > the > > > most diabolically evil human beings ever to walk the face of the earth. > > But > > > don't take my word for it. > > > Look up her writings in the Journal of the American Birth Control League > > from > > > the early 1900's. Look no further than one of her most cherished > > projects, > > > "The Negroe Project" designed to eliminate the Negroe race. Many of her > > > fellow eugenicists from the early 1900's, and later, such as Lothrop > > > Stoddard, were ardent supporters of Adolph Hitler, as was she. She was > > the > > > founder of Planned Parenthood. The KKK and David Duke and others have > > > absolutely nothing on her where racial hatred is concerned. She could > > teach > > > them a lot. > > > > > > But again don't take my word on it. There is an excellent book > > > written by Elasah Drogin of New Hope, Kentucky, entitled "Margaret > Sanger: > > > Father of Modern Society." first published in 1979. Elasah Drogin was a > > > Jewish woman who converted to Christianity and she did an excellent job > of > > > researching her subject. The book is available from New Hope > > Publications, > > > New Hope, Kentucky 40052 (270-325-3061) for a very reasonable price of > > $6.00. > > > It's had several printings since it was first published in 1979. It is > > 127 > > > pages long and one of the most powerful and compelling books that you > will > > > ever read. > > > > > > John Craven > > > New Orleans > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

Dusty - any chance you remember the person you did the research for? You have my permission to give them my email address, in case they are shy about having theirs given to me - and thanks! or Yakoke! SandyM Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com Or Call: 561-924-7955 Sandy Mercer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Bounds family name > Sandy: > > I did some research on the BOUNDS family in Mississippi a few years back for > someone else. As I recall there were alot of them in Pearl River, Mss. > where the Tribal Headquarters is. Unfortunately, all my records on that > surname have been long since deleted. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: okeefolkie <okeefolkie@mindspring.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 12:53 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Bounds family name > > > > Lori and Barbara, thanks for your kind words. I have been hanging back > > because > > I don't know if I really belong on this list, my heritage being very > cloudy. > > Here is a message I composed a few days ago and was kinda shy about > sending: > > > > Hi - I'm new to the list, and very new to geneology. My mother's folks > came > > from Miss, and a family rumor is that we have a Native American forebear > > (Indian? I'm > > not sure of the PC, but the Seminole here in S. Fla. use the term > "Indian"). > > > > The key person seems to be of the name "Bounds." I have found some Bounds' > > in one of the rolls NARA has, under "Choctaw by Birth," and "C. by > > Marriage," and I am fairly sure that my gggrandfather was Gilliam Bounds, > m > > to "Lizzie," no maiden name, with 4 sons, Henry, John, Wilke, and Gilliam; > > and 2 daughters, Sally and Elizabeth. Gilliam is not one of the first > names > > in the NARA rolls. No definite indication of where he was born/lived. > > > > Elizabeth Bounds m. William Jefferson Smith, my ggrandfather, probably in > > Hancock County, Miss., so I'm hoping that is where the Bounds' lived, to > > keep it simple. Elizabeth died in 1924. > > That is every bit of information I can glean so far. > > > > I hope I will not offend anyone, but are there physical characteristics > that > > one can use to "pin down" genetic heritage? My grandfather, James Woodard > > Smith, had very prominent cheekbones, straight black hair, and his son, my > > uncle, has often been asked if he is Native, or even of Aisian descent. On > > the other hand, my mother's features were more Celtic - as a child I > always > > thought she looked like Maureen O'Hara - auburn hair, those cheekbones, > and > > freckles. Her brother, my uncle, is dark, short of stature, and there is > an > > old > > b&w photo of him taken during the Korean War that I thought at first was a > > Korean > > soldier, when I was a child. > > > > So, who knows? It is wonderful to think that I am a mixture of many > > different parts of the human race -- it makes one much more interesting, I > > think! But I'd still like to know... > > > > Thanks for any help any of you can give me. > > > > SandyM > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. > Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, > nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >