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    1. RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM
    3. Oh, my gosh, Susanna! My apologies. I'd better keep my 'hot' suggestions to myself. I suppose you have tried google. ? genealogy.com ? ancestry.com ? If I should come across something, I will contact you. Best of luck. Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Susanna Noe Sent: Fri, Sep 27, 2002 6:53pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. Thanks Angelyn, but Charlie IS the fellow that thinks " Nancy Jane Lipsic Black Brashier" was the figment of an evil plot here....and that 395 families and over 1000 pages of testimony were out to defraud the goverment. Can you imagine.!! He is the very one who has cast this branch of our family in such a bad light in one of his books.. It is very frustrating and saddens us all to say the very least.. I am just trying to clean up their reputation. That is an awful thing for him to have said about a family just because he has said there is no document to prove otherwise. Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack .... any other ideas ? what would you do..as I said I need some new suggestions here. I don't plan to let this go on, if I can help it. allbest Susanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > You might trying mailing Charles Brashear, a professor at San Diego State University, who will soon be publishing a 5th volume on the Brashear(s) family - and the many spellings of the name. His address: > brashear@mail.sdsu.edu > Angelyn > > ------ Original Message ----- > > From: Susanna Noe > Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2002 8:16pm > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > Dusty: I am still 'lost' on my ancestor Nancy Lipsic Black Brashier...any > suggestions ? a half cherokee/ via legend, oral testimony, family interviews > et al....I am at a brickwall...too many people knew of her and speak of her, > even today ,for her to be a figment of a collective imagination... what do > you suggest ? > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:00 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > > > > Fran: > > > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the > 1855 > > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I > have > > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > > 1918, > > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting > before > > the > > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in the > > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > > determined > > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research > the > > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of John > > Henry > > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What is > my > > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

    09/27/2002 03:35:52
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw
    2. Deana Peirce
    3. He did this in Philadelphia MS ??.....what years would this be ? .. thanx deana ----- Original Message ----- From: <JOHNSONALBERTD@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > please check your rolls for the name: Gilmer or Dennis or Dennes > the attorneys name was Tom Weir, he took $25.00 form everyone saying he would > get them Indian money in the name of Dancing Rabbit Creak Tribe, out of > Philadelphia Mississippi. > thanks aj > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST >

    09/27/2002 03:01:27
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw
    2. Deana Peirce
    3. I have printed a form for your book and am VERY excited in receiving it ! Also I appreciate you finding the first name of that lawyer..Was it done in I.T. or MS ?...I cant tell from the interviews I have...They were pretty scattered in coming here..( OK)... again thanx ! deana ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Matte <matteja@bellsouth.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > Judy's site has many of the choctaw Rolls. She may not have Attorney Weir's > name on it. At the moment, I cannot remember his first name. I will have > to look it up, but it may take me a day or two to hunt for it as I am tied u > this week end. You can see They Say the Wind is Red at > http://matte.accessgenealogy.com and at Amazon. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deana Peirce" <choctaw74@prodigy.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > > > > Hi Jackie... > > > > No I hadnt heard of it but where online might I look for info ? Ive looked > > at Judys site and didnt see anything on it. What was the guys first name > > ?...Ill try looking that way... > > > > again MUCHO thanx !! > > > > deana > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jackie Matte <matteja@bellsouth.net> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > > > > > > > Yes! you probably heard about the Attorney named Weir from MS who did > > this. > > > He accepted money from Choctaws and other Indians for several years, but > > all > > > his efforts led to nothing. He was sued for fraud. I went through his > > case > > > file at the National Archives. There is really nothing in it that you > > can't > > > get NOW from Internet. In the bibliography of my book "They Say the > Wind > > > is Red," I list all the Choctaw Court of Claims cases. A section on > > > Resources for Southeastern Indian Genealogical Research is included. > > > Check Judy White's website http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for > > > rolls. > > > > > > Good luck, Jackie > > > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Deana Peirce" <choctaw74@prodigy.net> > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:00 PM > > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > > > > > > > > > > I have interviews from several ancestors for the Dawse Roll who were > > MCRs. > > > They all were saying that they gave their paper work to a man who they > > > thought was an atty., and he ended up being an imposter who wound up in > > > prison. Has anyone else run across this or even heard of it ? > > > > > > > > If true why would someone want their paperwork who wasnt ligit ? > > > > > > > > thanx > > > > > > > > deana > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > and spelled correctly. > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW > > Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc.

    09/27/2002 01:05:02
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. Susanna Noe
    3. There are some Cantrells from Grayson Co., Tx in the Scott Dumas MCR #4006 et al. Dawes file. Susanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caren Gimper" <meplant@adelphia.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > Dusty...Can you check the 1855 Cooper roll and see if there is any > Cantrell's listed??...I'd really appreciate it...Thanks...Caren :) :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:41 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > > > > Joyce: The 1855 Cooper roll lists those Choctaws remaining in > Miss/Ala/La. > > at that time. I have a copy. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Joyce Moore <jmoore@marshill.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > > > > > > > I have never heard of the 1855 Cooper Roll. Where is it located? Does it > > list the Miss. Choctaw > > > that stayed in Miss. > > > > > > Joyce Moore > > > > > > Dusty wrote: > > > > > > > Fran: > > > > > > > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try > to > > > > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or > the > > 1855 > > > > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I > > have > > > > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, > dated > > > > 1918, > > > > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting > > before > > > > the > > > > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in > > the > > > > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > > > > determined > > > > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to > research > > the > > > > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > > > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of > > John > > > > Henry > > > > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What > > is my > > > > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > > quotes > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > and spelled correctly. > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

    09/27/2002 10:56:34
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. Susanna Noe
    3. Thanks Angelyn, but Charlie IS the fellow that thinks " Nancy Jane Lipsic Black Brashier" was the figment of an evil plot here....and that 395 families and over 1000 pages of testimony were out to defraud the goverment. Can you imagine.!! He is the very one who has cast this branch of our family in such a bad light in one of his books.. It is very frustrating and saddens us all to say the very least.. I am just trying to clean up their reputation. That is an awful thing for him to have said about a family just because he has said there is no document to prove otherwise. Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack .... any other ideas ? what would you do..as I said I need some new suggestions here. I don't plan to let this go on, if I can help it. allbest Susanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > You might trying mailing Charles Brashear, a professor at San Diego State University, who will soon be publishing a 5th volume on the Brashear(s) family - and the many spellings of the name. His address: > brashear@mail.sdsu.edu > Angelyn > > ------ Original Message ----- > > From: Susanna Noe > Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2002 8:16pm > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > Dusty: I am still 'lost' on my ancestor Nancy Lipsic Black Brashier...any > suggestions ? a half cherokee/ via legend, oral testimony, family interviews > et al....I am at a brickwall...too many people knew of her and speak of her, > even today ,for her to be a figment of a collective imagination... what do > you suggest ? > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:00 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > > > > Fran: > > > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the > 1855 > > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I > have > > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > > 1918, > > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting > before > > the > > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in the > > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > > determined > > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research > the > > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of John > > Henry > > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What is > my > > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc. > >

    09/27/2002 10:53:51
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw
    2. In a message dated 9/27/02 3:53:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, matteja@bellsouth.net writes: > They Say the Wind > is Red," > Jackie Where can I buy your book Paul

    09/27/2002 10:10:00
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw
    2. Jackie Matte
    3. You can go to http://matte.accessgenealogy.com or Amazon ----- Original Message ----- From: <PELR@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > In a message dated 9/27/02 3:53:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > matteja@bellsouth.net writes: > > > > They Say the Wind > > is Red," > > > Jackie > Where can I buy your book > Paul > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

    09/27/2002 09:41:21
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw
    2. Jackie Matte
    3. Judy's site has many of the choctaw Rolls. She may not have Attorney Weir's name on it. At the moment, I cannot remember his first name. I will have to look it up, but it may take me a day or two to hunt for it as I am tied u this week end. You can see They Say the Wind is Red at http://matte.accessgenealogy.com and at Amazon. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deana Peirce" <choctaw74@prodigy.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > Hi Jackie... > > No I hadnt heard of it but where online might I look for info ? Ive looked > at Judys site and didnt see anything on it. What was the guys first name > ?...Ill try looking that way... > > again MUCHO thanx !! > > deana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jackie Matte <matteja@bellsouth.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > > > > Yes! you probably heard about the Attorney named Weir from MS who did > this. > > He accepted money from Choctaws and other Indians for several years, but > all > > his efforts led to nothing. He was sued for fraud. I went through his > case > > file at the National Archives. There is really nothing in it that you > can't > > get NOW from Internet. In the bibliography of my book "They Say the Wind > > is Red," I list all the Choctaw Court of Claims cases. A section on > > Resources for Southeastern Indian Genealogical Research is included. > > Check Judy White's website http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for > > rolls. > > > > Good luck, Jackie > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > > From: "Deana Peirce" <choctaw74@prodigy.net> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:00 PM > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > > > > > > > I have interviews from several ancestors for the Dawse Roll who were > MCRs. > > They all were saying that they gave their paper work to a man who they > > thought was an atty., and he ended up being an imposter who wound up in > > prison. Has anyone else run across this or even heard of it ? > > > > > > If true why would someone want their paperwork who wasnt ligit ? > > > > > > thanx > > > > > > deana > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > and spelled correctly. > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW > Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

    09/27/2002 09:39:32
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw
    2. Deana Peirce
    3. Hi Jackie... No I hadnt heard of it but where online might I look for info ? Ive looked at Judys site and didnt see anything on it. What was the guys first name ?...Ill try looking that way... again MUCHO thanx !! deana ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Matte <matteja@bellsouth.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > Yes! you probably heard about the Attorney named Weir from MS who did this. > He accepted money from Choctaws and other Indians for several years, but all > his efforts led to nothing. He was sued for fraud. I went through his case > file at the National Archives. There is really nothing in it that you can't > get NOW from Internet. In the bibliography of my book "They Say the Wind > is Red," I list all the Choctaw Court of Claims cases. A section on > Resources for Southeastern Indian Genealogical Research is included. > Check Judy White's website http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for > rolls. > > Good luck, Jackie > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Deana Peirce" <choctaw74@prodigy.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:00 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > > > > I have interviews from several ancestors for the Dawse Roll who were MCRs. > They all were saying that they gave their paper work to a man who they > thought was an atty., and he ended up being an imposter who wound up in > prison. Has anyone else run across this or even heard of it ? > > > > If true why would someone want their paperwork who wasnt ligit ? > > > > thanx > > > > deana > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc.

    09/27/2002 09:26:10
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw
    2. Jackie Matte
    3. Yes! you probably heard about the Attorney named Weir from MS who did this. He accepted money from Choctaws and other Indians for several years, but all his efforts led to nothing. He was sued for fraud. I went through his case file at the National Archives. There is really nothing in it that you can't get NOW from Internet. In the bibliography of my book "They Say the Wind is Red," I list all the Choctaw Court of Claims cases. A section on Resources for Southeastern Indian Genealogical Research is included. Check Judy White's website http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls. Good luck, Jackie ---- Original Message ----- From: "Deana Peirce" <choctaw74@prodigy.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw > I have interviews from several ancestors for the Dawse Roll who were MCRs. They all were saying that they gave their paper work to a man who they thought was an atty., and he ended up being an imposter who wound up in prison. Has anyone else run across this or even heard of it ? > > If true why would someone want their paperwork who wasnt ligit ? > > thanx > > deana > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

    09/27/2002 08:50:10
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. Caren Gimper
    3. Dusty...Can you check the 1855 Cooper roll and see if there is any Cantrell's listed??...I'd really appreciate it...Thanks...Caren :) :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > Joyce: The 1855 Cooper roll lists those Choctaws remaining in Miss/Ala/La. > at that time. I have a copy. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joyce Moore <jmoore@marshill.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > > > > I have never heard of the 1855 Cooper Roll. Where is it located? Does it > list the Miss. Choctaw > > that stayed in Miss. > > > > Joyce Moore > > > > Dusty wrote: > > > > > Fran: > > > > > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > > > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the > 1855 > > > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I > have > > > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > > > 1918, > > > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting > before > > > the > > > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in > the > > > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > > > determined > > > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research > the > > > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of > John > > > Henry > > > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What > is my > > > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. >

    09/27/2002 07:34:27
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. I want to thank everyone who has given me pointers on where to start my Choctaw research. I found some good info, such as the Choctaw history in chronological order, AND the different rolls, by using (1) MS CHOCTAW, and (2) ARMSTRONG ROLLS as a keyword. However, I did find the Armstrong Rolls-Final Roll 1889-1914 a bit confusing as to the way it appears to be alphabetized. For instance, I found Martha STevens between SPring~STandley. For Dusty: is there a way I can get more info on this Martha Stevens, to see if she is mine? Her # is 6877 under the STEPHENS spelling, and #14087 under Martha STEVENS. Thanks again, Fran Bolton

    09/27/2002 06:31:36
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. Joyce Moore
    3. Dusty, would you mind looking to see if their are any Moores still on the roll? John Moore and Nancy Folsom stayed in Miss., and some of their sons were in Miss., Ala., and Georgia. Joyce Dusty wrote: > Joyce: The 1855 Cooper roll lists those Choctaws remaining in Miss/Ala/La. > at that time. I have a copy. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joyce Moore <jmoore@marshill.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > > > I have never heard of the 1855 Cooper Roll. Where is it located? Does it > list the Miss. Choctaw > > that stayed in Miss. > > > > Joyce Moore > > > > Dusty wrote: > > > > > Fran: > > > > > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > > > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the > 1855 > > > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I > have > > > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > > > 1918, > > > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting > before > > > the > > > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in > the > > > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > > > determined > > > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research > the > > > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of > John > > > Henry > > > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What > is my > > > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc.

    09/27/2002 06:24:19
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. Skydancer
    3. Dusty Is this a closed roll? Or is there a place to get it? Skydancer ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusty To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. Joyce: The 1855 Cooper roll lists those Choctaws remaining in Miss/Ala/La. at that time. I have a copy. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Moore <jmoore@marshill.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > I have never heard of the 1855 Cooper Roll. Where is it located? Does it list the Miss. Choctaw > that stayed in Miss. > > Joyce Moore > > Dusty wrote: > > > Fran: > > > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the 1855 > > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I have > > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > > 1918, > > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting before > > the > > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in the > > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > > determined > > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research the > > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of John > > Henry > > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What is my > > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc.

    09/27/2002 06:14:06
    1. [CHOCTAW-SE] MS Choctaw
    2. Deana Peirce
    3. I have interviews from several ancestors for the Dawse Roll who were MCRs. They all were saying that they gave their paper work to a man who they thought was an atty., and he ended up being an imposter who wound up in prison. Has anyone else run across this or even heard of it ? If true why would someone want their paperwork who wasnt ligit ? thanx deana

    09/27/2002 06:00:53
    1. [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. Dusty
    3. Joyce: The 1855 Cooper roll lists those Choctaws remaining in Miss/Ala/La. at that time. I have a copy. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Moore <jmoore@marshill.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > I have never heard of the 1855 Cooper Roll. Where is it located? Does it list the Miss. Choctaw > that stayed in Miss. > > Joyce Moore > > Dusty wrote: > > > Fran: > > > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the 1855 > > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I have > > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > > 1918, > > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting before > > the > > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in the > > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > > determined > > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research the > > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of John > > Henry > > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What is my > > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com >

    09/27/2002 04:41:07
    1. RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM
    3. You might trying mailing Charles Brashear, a professor at San Diego State University, who will soon be publishing a 5th volume on the Brashear(s) family - and the many spellings of the name. His address: brashear@mail.sdsu.edu Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Susanna Noe Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2002 8:16pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. Dusty: I am still 'lost' on my ancestor Nancy Lipsic Black Brashier...any suggestions ? a half cherokee/ via legend, oral testimony, family interviews et al....I am at a brickwall...too many people knew of her and speak of her, even today ,for her to be a figment of a collective imagination... what do you suggest ? From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > Fran: > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the 1855 > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I have > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > 1918, > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting before > the > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in the > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > determined > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research the > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of John > Henry > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What is my > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, newsletters, lookups, articles, etc.

    09/26/2002 02:37:54
    1. RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Choctaw Indians in Alabama
    2. Kathlyn Knobloch
    3. > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf > Of i2000shoes@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:09 AM > To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Choctaw Indians in Alabama > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: nicholson, threadgill > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/906.5.2 > > Message Board Post: > > My great grandmother was name Annie Nicholson. She was first > married (last name Attwood) then married my great grandfather > Edward (Eddie) Threadgill 1899. They lived in Wilcox county and > Monroe county from 1900's. I know that she had atleast 15 kids > (Arthur, Pearl, Viola, Mattie (my grandmother), Alice, Addie L., > Maggie, Appleton, George, Will, Alberta, Bush, Clara, May and > Lonnie. I still have a lot of relatives that I do not know. > Please e-mail me....Annie died in 1927 in Monroe County. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for > CHOCTAW Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.385 / Virus Database: 217 - Release Date: 9/4/02 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.385 / Virus Database: 217 - Release Date: 9/4/02

    09/26/2002 12:41:42
    1. Fw: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. Susanna Noe
    3. I am also losing my mind <g> of course not Cherokee...Mississippi Choctaw !!!!! what am I thinking... allbest Susanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susanna Noe" <c_snoe@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > Dusty: I am still 'lost' on my ancestor Nancy Lipsic Black Brashier...any > suggestions ? a half cherokee/ via legend, oral testimony, family interviews > et al....I am at a brickwall...too many people knew of her and speak of her, > even today ,for her to be a figment of a collective imagination... what do > you suggest ? > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:00 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > > > > Fran: > > > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the > 1855 > > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I > have > > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > > 1918, > > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting > before > > the > > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in the > > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > > determined > > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research > the > > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of John > > Henry > > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What is > my > > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > and spelled correctly. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > >

    09/26/2002 12:25:59
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co.
    2. Susanna Noe
    3. Dusty: I am still 'lost' on my ancestor Nancy Lipsic Black Brashier...any suggestions ? a half cherokee/ via legend, oral testimony, family interviews et al....I am at a brickwall...too many people knew of her and speak of her, even today ,for her to be a figment of a collective imagination... what do you suggest ? From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Miss. Choctaw Investment Co. > Fran: > > You need to trace your family in Miss. via the federal census and try to > connect them to someone listed on either the 1831 Armstrong roll or the 1855 > Cooper roll. These were both done before the removals to Oklahoma. I have > both rolls if you need a lookup. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > I have copies of "The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Co" papers, dated > 1918, > > signed by my ancestor, for " services to be rendered in presenting before > the > > different branches of the government, in order for them to share in the > > tribal property belonging to the Choctaw tribes". I think I have > determined > > this was a cruel hoax, but my question is where do I start to research the > > fact that my ancestor signed these papers, as I did not know he was > > Indian/part Indian. He was James Leon Chambless, 1904-1987, son of John > Henry > > Chambless, 1882-1916, and Josephine (Jodie) Skinner, 1886-1930. What is my > > first step in finding the Choctaw Indian connection to my ancestors? > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

    09/26/2002 12:16:43