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    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: "Old Choctaw Reservation in Alabama"
    2. Sorry, but I don't have a Newton in my line. Thanks anyway. Lori

    10/28/2002 09:34:21
  1. 10/28/2002 09:33:47
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] George W. Reed
    2. Jackie Matte
    3. Do you have a date of birth for your George W. Reed? Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Baker74771@cs.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 11:48 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] George W. Reed > My gt-gt-gt Grandfather was George W. Reed. I believe he was Choctaw. I can > not find any ancestors before him. Familysearch.org shows that he was born > in Dugdemoney, quicitan Louisiana. Does anyone know where that is located? > I cannot find it anywhere. His wife was Elizabeth Jane Folsom. There > daughter was Mary Reed. Thank you for any info. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > >

    10/28/2002 07:26:05
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee....
    2. Susanna Noe
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Susanna Noe To: ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... It is ok I just wanted to make it clear, my position regarding Mr. Brashear's work, just in case some one has missed it. I have mentioned to him in e-mails some of the data described here and have never had any kind of response so am guessing he doesn't seem to care much, that was all. all the best Susanna ----- Original Message ----- From: ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM To: Susanna Noe ; CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... Susanna, I know you've had some differences with Charles Brashear and I don't mean to infer that he is THE 'end-all" expert on the Brashears. He's also sent me some conflicting 'facts', but I mentioned him only as a beginning for Jan in her search for the Brashears. My interest is only in a portion of his 5th volume as it concerns "Hyden vs. Choctaw" and the testimony of Harriet Everidge Oakes whose aunt was Elizabeth Brashears, the first wife of my 4Ggrandfather, Joseph James Fisher, and Joseph's 2nd wife, Martha "Pats(e)y Hay(e)s", my 4Ggrandmother. Elizabeth Brashears was the daughter of R.T. "Turner" Brashears whose wife was a daughter of Taboca. Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Susanna Noe Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2002 1:31pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... To find the information re the Dumas Brief: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/dumas.htm or on search at www.accessgenealogy type in KITTY GARBER and her valuable information regarding this situation will appear. All of us should ''give our thanks to Kitty for allowing this information to become available so others can also view this type of information" . Thanks also to Judy and Dusty. Susanna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susanna Noe" <c_snoe@msn.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... > > > > Well don't confuse this with the previous work of Mr. Brashears regarding > > the Choctaw information of John Brasher and Nancy Jane Lipsic Black. In > > that regard his information is not the same as the lawyers assessment > > regarding the Dawes Application of Mississippi Choctaw descendant Scott S. > > Dumas et al.; see Kitty Garber's copy, which she made personally, of the > > original handwritten testimony submitted by Charles Van Weise two months > > AFTER the decision of the commission on May 15, 1903, which denied the > > application ! > > A total different story emerges of that group from the one presented by > Mr. > > Brashears. > > > > Susanna Noe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:37 AM > > Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... > > > > > > > Jan, Jen's suggestion to contact Charles Brashear - > > brashear@mail.sdsu.edu - was excellent. His 5th book should be published > > soon. You might also check > > > http://www.choctaw-web.com/brashears.htm > > > There you will find 22 pages of Brashears beginning with Zadock, Sr., > who > > was married to Susanna(h) Vaughan, a Choctaw, and Rachel Durant, Creek. > > > Angelyn > > > > > > ------ Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: josie2@centurytel.net > > > Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2002 12:12am > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee..anything? > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Surnames: Breshears, Brashear, Breshear.....etc > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1006 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Have been working on genoelogy off and on for two years-Last spring I > came > > upon info on some of my DIRECT descendants. > > > The further I went into the files, I came upon a whole list of Breshears > > names-some spelled differently-but still Breshears-it was on a page > "INDIAN > > RECORDS OF THE 5 TRIBES-DAWES ROLLS-(possibly)?????????? > > > Both of my parents were extremely compassionate of the Amercian > Indian-I > > have always been equally so-When I cam upon the info that stated I might > > possible be part Indian-I was ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!I just don't know where to > > email or call or write--to get more info-to see if I am-My ancestor names > > appeared directly before the Berry M. Breshears born around 1793-I > > amdirectly descended from Nathan Turner Breshears and I have followed him > > back further, but cannot find my papers at this moment. I just want to > know > > if there is a chance and of so help connect up-Any info would be so > grately > > appreciated........... Thank you...........jan > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com

    10/28/2002 07:00:20
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: "Old Choctaw Reservation in Alabama"
    2. Use the address at the end of this message, EXCEPT, type in Subscribe. Ignore turn off Signature.

    10/28/2002 06:18:53
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: "Old Choctaw Reservation in Alabama"
    2. CORINE HUEY
    3. Hey Lori, A female Willoughby married a Newton and Willoughby Newton was a surveyor I kept coming across in New England when searching my husband's Newton's in the early 1990's. If you have a Newton in your line, I may have something to share. Corine --- Lori0602h@aol.com wrote: > Hi John: > > Those in Alabama were mainly Trotter...Willoughby > Trotter, Sam Trotter, Julia > Trotter and her four siblings and finally Tobias > Brock. Julia, my ggg > grandmother, lived near Barrington, AL, until about > 1840 when she moved to > Mississippi. She married a Thompson in Clarke > County, Mississippi. > > Lori > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's > website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, > genealogy lessons, articles, etc. >

    10/28/2002 01:01:30
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee....
    2. Thanks, Judy. If anyone has a question or can provide additional information on any of those listed, please feel free to contact me directly at lori0602h@aol.com. Lori

    10/27/2002 01:48:37
    1. RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee....
    2. ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM
    3. Please see my 'note' addressed to your attention, Susanna, at Choctaw-Southeast re Charles Brashear. Cordially, Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Susanna Noe Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2002 1:05pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... Well don't confuse this with the previous work of Mr. Brashears regarding the Choctaw information of John Brasher and Nancy Jane Lipsic Black. In that regard his information is not the same as the lawyers assessment regarding the Dawes Application of Mississippi Choctaw descendant Scott S. Dumas et al.; see Kitty Garber's copy, which she made personally, of the original handwritten testimony submitted by Charles Van Weise two months AFTER the decision of the commission on May 15, 1903, which denied the application ! A total different story emerges of that group from the one presented by Mr. Brashears. Susanna Noe ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:37 AM Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... > Jan, Jen's suggestion to contact Charles Brashear - brashear@mail.sdsu.edu - was excellent. His 5th book should be published soon. You might also check > http://www.choctaw-web.com/brashears.htm > There you will find 22 pages of Brashears beginning with Zadock, Sr., who was married to Susanna(h) Vaughan, a Choctaw, and Rachel Durant, Creek. > Angelyn > > ------ Original Message ----- > > From: josie2@centurytel.net > Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2002 12:12am > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee..anything? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Breshears, Brashear, Breshear.....etc > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1006 > > Message Board Post: > > Have been working on genoelogy off and on for two years-Last spring I came upon info on some of my DIRECT descendants. > The further I went into the files, I came upon a whole list of Breshears names-some spelled differently-but still Breshears-it was on a page "INDIAN RECORDS OF THE 5 TRIBES-DAWES ROLLS-(possibly)?????????? > Both of my parents were extremely compassionate of the Amercian Indian-I have always been equally so-When I cam upon the info that stated I might possible be part Indian-I was ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!I just don't know where to email or call or write--to get more info-to see if I am-My ancestor names appeared directly before the Berry M. Breshears born around 1793-I amdirectly descended from Nathan Turner Breshears and I have followed him back further, but cannot find my papers at this moment. I just want to know if there is a chance and of so help connect up-Any info would be so grately appreciated........... Thank you...........jan > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

    10/27/2002 11:38:42
    1. RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee....
    2. ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM
    3. Susanna, I know you've had some differences with Charles Brashear and I don't mean to infer that he is THE 'end-all" expert on the Brashears. He's also sent me some conflicting 'facts', but I mentioned him only as a beginning for Jan in her search for the Brashears. My interest is only in a portion of his 5th volume as it concerns "Hyden vs. Choctaw" and the testimony of Harriet Everidge Oakes whose aunt was Elizabeth Brashears, the first wife of my 4Ggrandfather, Joseph James Fisher, and Joseph's 2nd wife, Martha "Pats(e)y Hay(e)s", my 4Ggrandmother. Elizabeth Brashears was the daughter of R.T. "Turner" Brashears whose wife was a daughter of Taboca. Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Susanna Noe Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2002 1:31pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... To find the information re the Dumas Brief: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/dumas.htm or on search at www.accessgenealogy type in KITTY GARBER and her valuable information regarding this situation will appear. All of us should ''give our thanks to Kitty for allowing this information to become available so others can also view this type of information" . Thanks also to Judy and Dusty. Susanna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susanna Noe" <c_snoe@msn.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... > > > > Well don't confuse this with the previous work of Mr. Brashears regarding > > the Choctaw information of John Brasher and Nancy Jane Lipsic Black. In > > that regard his information is not the same as the lawyers assessment > > regarding the Dawes Application of Mississippi Choctaw descendant Scott S. > > Dumas et al.; see Kitty Garber's copy, which she made personally, of the > > original handwritten testimony submitted by Charles Van Weise two months > > AFTER the decision of the commission on May 15, 1903, which denied the > > application ! > > A total different story emerges of that group from the one presented by > Mr. > > Brashears. > > > > Susanna Noe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:37 AM > > Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... > > > > > > > Jan, Jen's suggestion to contact Charles Brashear - > > brashear@mail.sdsu.edu - was excellent. His 5th book should be published > > soon. You might also check > > > http://www.choctaw-web.com/brashears.htm > > > There you will find 22 pages of Brashears beginning with Zadock, Sr., > who > > was married to Susanna(h) Vaughan, a Choctaw, and Rachel Durant, Creek. > > > Angelyn > > > > > > ------ Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: josie2@centurytel.net > > > Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2002 12:12am > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee..anything? > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Surnames: Breshears, Brashear, Breshear.....etc > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1006 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Have been working on genoelogy off and on for two years-Last spring I > came > > upon info on some of my DIRECT descendants. > > > The further I went into the files, I came upon a whole list of Breshears > > names-some spelled differently-but still Breshears-it was on a page > "INDIAN > > RECORDS OF THE 5 TRIBES-DAWES ROLLS-(possibly)?????????? > > > Both of my parents were extremely compassionate of the Amercian > Indian-I > > have always been equally so-When I cam upon the info that stated I might > > possible be part Indian-I was ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!I just don't know where to > > email or call or write--to get more info-to see if I am-My ancestor names > > appeared directly before the Berry M. Breshears born around 1793-I > > amdirectly descended from Nathan Turner Breshears and I have followed him > > back further, but cannot find my papers at this moment. I just want to > know > > if there is a chance and of so help connect up-Any info would be so > grately > > appreciated........... Thank you...........jan > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com

    10/27/2002 11:29:55
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] James Davis ---MS
    2. Does anyone have information on George Washington Parker Dennis or a Margarette Lennie Morris. George W.P.Dennis was born 18 September 1814, Coffeville, Clarke City, Alabama Margarette Lennie Morris was born 13 February 1828, Abbeville, Anderson South Carolina. Thanks aj

    10/27/2002 11:06:16
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee....
    2. Judy
    3. Today there was additional information added to the Dumas brief. We have had a little problem transcribing this and are trying our best to get it correct. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/dumas.htm We have now completed the Julia Thompson packet and you can view it at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/thompson The case files are there for: Julia Thompson Candis Allen Banister Allen Indiana Coleman Margaret Farrill Emma Hayes Willoughby Thompson Tobias Brock Julia Turner Lorie Husband was kind enough to provide us with copies of these packets!! Judy

    10/27/2002 07:00:08
    1. [CHOCTAW-SE] James Davis ---MS
    2. choctaw74
    3. Does anyone have anything on James Davis who is on the Armstrong Roll??...He is in the LeFlore district. Does anyone know what area of MS that would be today ? thanx....deana peirce

    10/27/2002 06:20:06
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: "Old Choctaw Reservation in Alabama"
    2. Sorry there was no connection, John. Lori

    10/27/2002 05:39:02
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee....
    2. Susanna Noe
    3. To find the information re the Dumas Brief: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/dumas.htm or on search at www.accessgenealogy type in KITTY GARBER and her valuable information regarding this situation will appear. All of us should ''give our thanks to Kitty for allowing this information to become available so others can also view this type of information" . Thanks also to Judy and Dusty. Susanna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susanna Noe" <c_snoe@msn.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... > > > > Well don't confuse this with the previous work of Mr. Brashears regarding > > the Choctaw information of John Brasher and Nancy Jane Lipsic Black. In > > that regard his information is not the same as the lawyers assessment > > regarding the Dawes Application of Mississippi Choctaw descendant Scott S. > > Dumas et al.; see Kitty Garber's copy, which she made personally, of the > > original handwritten testimony submitted by Charles Van Weise two months > > AFTER the decision of the commission on May 15, 1903, which denied the > > application ! > > A total different story emerges of that group from the one presented by > Mr. > > Brashears. > > > > Susanna Noe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:37 AM > > Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... > > > > > > > Jan, Jen's suggestion to contact Charles Brashear - > > brashear@mail.sdsu.edu - was excellent. His 5th book should be published > > soon. You might also check > > > http://www.choctaw-web.com/brashears.htm > > > There you will find 22 pages of Brashears beginning with Zadock, Sr., > who > > was married to Susanna(h) Vaughan, a Choctaw, and Rachel Durant, Creek. > > > Angelyn > > > > > > ------ Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: josie2@centurytel.net > > > Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2002 12:12am > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American > > Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee..anything? > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Surnames: Breshears, Brashear, Breshear.....etc > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1006 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Have been working on genoelogy off and on for two years-Last spring I > came > > upon info on some of my DIRECT descendants. > > > The further I went into the files, I came upon a whole list of Breshears > > names-some spelled differently-but still Breshears-it was on a page > "INDIAN > > RECORDS OF THE 5 TRIBES-DAWES ROLLS-(possibly)?????????? > > > Both of my parents were extremely compassionate of the Amercian > Indian-I > > have always been equally so-When I cam upon the info that stated I might > > possible be part Indian-I was ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!I just don't know where to > > email or call or write--to get more info-to see if I am-My ancestor names > > appeared directly before the Berry M. Breshears born around 1793-I > > amdirectly descended from Nathan Turner Breshears and I have followed him > > back further, but cannot find my papers at this moment. I just want to > know > > if there is a chance and of so help connect up-Any info would be so > grately > > appreciated........... Thank you...........jan > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > > list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > > > > > > > > >

    10/27/2002 04:31:27
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: "Old Choctaw Reservation in Alabama"
    2. In a message dated 10/27/2002 5:43:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, Lori0602h@aol.com writes: << Those in Alabama were mainly Trotter...Willoughby Trotter, Sam Trotter, Julia Trotter and her four siblings and finally Tobias Brock. Julia, my ggg grandmother, lived near Barrington, AL, until about 1840 when she moved to Mississippi. She married a Thompson in Clarke County, Mississippi. >> Hi Lori, Thank you for the reply. Mine were Brady and Hawkins. John

    10/27/2002 04:27:19
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee....
    2. Susanna Noe
    3. Well don't confuse this with the previous work of Mr. Brashears regarding the Choctaw information of John Brasher and Nancy Jane Lipsic Black. In that regard his information is not the same as the lawyers assessment regarding the Dawes Application of Mississippi Choctaw descendant Scott S. Dumas et al.; see Kitty Garber's copy, which she made personally, of the original handwritten testimony submitted by Charles Van Weise two months AFTER the decision of the commission on May 15, 1903, which denied the application ! A total different story emerges of that group from the one presented by Mr. Brashears. Susanna Noe ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:37 AM Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee.... > Jan, Jen's suggestion to contact Charles Brashear - brashear@mail.sdsu.edu - was excellent. His 5th book should be published soon. You might also check > http://www.choctaw-web.com/brashears.htm > There you will find 22 pages of Brashears beginning with Zadock, Sr., who was married to Susanna(h) Vaughan, a Choctaw, and Rachel Durant, Creek. > Angelyn > > ------ Original Message ----- > > From: josie2@centurytel.net > Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2002 12:12am > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee..anything? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Breshears, Brashear, Breshear.....etc > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1006 > > Message Board Post: > > Have been working on genoelogy off and on for two years-Last spring I came upon info on some of my DIRECT descendants. > The further I went into the files, I came upon a whole list of Breshears names-some spelled differently-but still Breshears-it was on a page "INDIAN RECORDS OF THE 5 TRIBES-DAWES ROLLS-(possibly)?????????? > Both of my parents were extremely compassionate of the Amercian Indian-I have always been equally so-When I cam upon the info that stated I might possible be part Indian-I was ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!I just don't know where to email or call or write--to get more info-to see if I am-My ancestor names appeared directly before the Berry M. Breshears born around 1793-I amdirectly descended from Nathan Turner Breshears and I have followed him back further, but cannot find my papers at this moment. I just want to know if there is a chance and of so help connect up-Any info would be so grately appreciated........... Thank you...........jan > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > >

    10/27/2002 04:05:38
    1. RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: "Old Choctaw Reservation in Alabama"
    2. ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM
    3. Since I have neither Angie Debo nor H.B. Cushman's books, I cannot comment on what they said about 'reservations'. I do, however, have 4 pages copied from Cushman's book, published in the 1800s, about the LeFlore family and those pages are full of mistakes. Your local library would surely have something more up-to-date than Cushman's observations on 'reservations'. Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: emahyat@charter.net Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2002 7:38am To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: "Old Choctaw Reservation in Alabama" This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/990.1.1.1 Message Board Post: In the first place Indians did not have reservations, That is a White man law, after removal. The best books I have is, The Rise and Fall of The Choctaw Republic--By Angie Debo History of the Choctaw, Chickasaw and Natchez Indians--By H.B. Cushman --Edited by Angie Dubo--Introduced by Clara Sue Kidwell. June Yates ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

    10/27/2002 02:42:48
    1. RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee....
    2. ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM
    3. Jan, Jen's suggestion to contact Charles Brashear - brashear@mail.sdsu.edu - was excellent. His 5th book should be published soon. You might also check http://www.choctaw-web.com/brashears.htm There you will find 22 pages of Brashears beginning with Zadock, Sr., who was married to Susanna(h) Vaughan, a Choctaw, and Rachel Durant, Creek. Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: josie2@centurytel.net Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2002 12:12am To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Am I part American Indian-ie......Choctaw,Cherokee..anything? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Breshears, Brashear, Breshear.....etc Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1006 Message Board Post: Have been working on genoelogy off and on for two years-Last spring I came upon info on some of my DIRECT descendants. The further I went into the files, I came upon a whole list of Breshears names-some spelled differently-but still Breshears-it was on a page "INDIAN RECORDS OF THE 5 TRIBES-DAWES ROLLS-(possibly)?????????? Both of my parents were extremely compassionate of the Amercian Indian-I have always been equally so-When I cam upon the info that stated I might possible be part Indian-I was ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!I just don't know where to email or call or write--to get more info-to see if I am-My ancestor names appeared directly before the Berry M. Breshears born around 1793-I amdirectly descended from Nathan Turner Breshears and I have followed him back further, but cannot find my papers at this moment. I just want to know if there is a chance and of so help connect up-Any info would be so grately appreciated........... Thank you...........jan ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com

    10/27/2002 02:37:22
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Am I related to any Indian tribes such as Cherokee, Osage, or choctaw?
    2. CORINE HUEY
    3. FYI: Daisy Leslie a schoolteacher m. her pupil Sam McGuire and brought up a most phenomenal family across the road and acreage northeast of our homeplace southeast of the little community of Hagerman Grayson Co TX... --- tomcat_1942@msn.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to > this mailing list. > > Surnames: caviness/rogers > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/1007.1 > > Message Board Post: > > my husbands gggrandfather was james caviness, he > married lucinda mcguire(cherokee indian), they had 8 > children, sam, albert, nela, martha, sarah, evert > (sorry i`m not at home and don`t have the other info > with me at this time) they were from camden co > missouri and later settled to leadhill arkansas. 2 > of the caviness boys married into rogers family, > which is my husbands name. so sounds like you might > be kin. i have a really good pic of james and > lucinda caviness , and some pictures of their > children. please email me, i am currently at this > email address....GTXRoadRunner@aol.com....... > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > Send msg. to > CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... > "unsubscribe" without the quotes and spelled > correctly. > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off > signatures....... >

    10/27/2002 02:21:59
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: "Old Choctaw Reservation in Alabama"
    2. Hi John: Those in Alabama were mainly Trotter...Willoughby Trotter, Sam Trotter, Julia Trotter and her four siblings and finally Tobias Brock. Julia, my ggg grandmother, lived near Barrington, AL, until about 1840 when she moved to Mississippi. She married a Thompson in Clarke County, Mississippi. Lori

    10/27/2002 01:39:22