Thanks. I'll give them a call and see if I can speak with someone directly. Again, thanks. Lori

The George W. Reed that I have researched was born in 1815. He left Mississippi/Alabama area in late 1830s or early 1840s. He stayed in Texas for a while and came back with another wfe and family. Don't know whether this fits with yours in any way, but the Reed families were in both Creek and Choctaw nations. Hardy Reed was a trader in the Creek nation and Daniel Reed, father of George, was in Mississippi Territory before 1800. This family and sources for research are in my book "They Say the Wind is Red." You can see a description at http://matte.accessgenealogy.com It may help. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Baker74771@cs.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] George W. Reed > I cannot find my George W. Reed's date of birth right now. I will have to > look back at so > some old papers that I have. He married Jane Folsom on July 9 1850 ..Later > they were in Grimes, Texas. I will let you know if I find his birth date. > Thank you. > > I think that Dugdemoney Louisiana might be Quitman Louisiana like one > response has given. Because I cannot find quicitan. > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

The enrollment packets might be the same, but I doubt they have all the paperwork on the court proceedings that the National archives has...It's possible tho.. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Fwd: Mima Morris > A cousin has found many enrollment packets at the Oklahoma Historical Society in Oklahoma City. (I can verify they are the SAME as what is on file at Ft. Worth. Or at least the one she got at OHS and the one I got from Ft. Worth for the same person are exactly the same.) I'm not sure what they charge for copying, but I don't think it'd be $10! > Angelyn > >

A cousin has found many enrollment packets at the Oklahoma Historical Society in Oklahoma City. (I can verify they are the SAME as what is on file at Ft. Worth. Or at least the one she got at OHS and the one I got from Ft. Worth for the same person are exactly the same.) I'm not sure what they charge for copying, but I don't think it'd be $10! Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Baker74771@cs.com Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2002 10:24pm To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Fwd: Mima Morris --part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Baker74771@cs.com> From: Baker74771@cs.com Full-name: Baker74771 Message-ID: <30.2faa18bc.2af0b87e@cs.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:22:22 EST Subject: Mima Morris To: choctawsoutheast-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 103 I just received the 1896 citizenship application copies of papers from Ft. Worth on application for citizenship of A.A. Spring. I was very happy to see that there are many affidavits stating that "Mima Morris" Jemima Morris my Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandmother was full blood Choctaw according to the affidavits. Most of the affidavits were from other Choctaw Indians who had to make a notarized X mark. Some were from a couple of names that I recognized from the Mississippi denied roll. (Such as Eliza Jack and Frances Isaac) One of the affidavits was from a man that had been one of the Secretary's of the Choctaw Nation. If I want to get the other 500 pages of the case file I am going to have to send Ft. Worth about $250. Also, I believe I have found my gt gt gt gt Grandfather on the attatchment to the Armstrong roll. He is listed as Barton, orphan son of Ahocatubbee. My relatives name was Thomas B Franklin. I am also researching the other side of the family, but this is what I have found. If any one would like copies of what I found, please let me know. --part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary-- ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

I'm interested as to how you obtained the affidavits from Ft. Worth. I obtained the enrollment case files for my ancestors who were rejected. The interviews by the Commission on the Five Civilized Tribes indicated affidavits. However, there were none in the files. Also, their attorney was present and stated that he would provide proof within 30 days. That information was not in the file either. Any idea of where and how I can obtain the affidavits and attorney info? Thanks, Lori

I called them and read a letter my family had for years from the Choctaw Nation concerning the denial of one of the family members...there was a case number on it, and they recognised it as such and checked on it, then told me they had a great deal of information....There were about 50 pages...Other family members over the years had gotten bits and pieces from the Archives that were different from what I had gotten, but it was all part of the same case..Don't know why they don't have all of it in one place at the Archives... B. -------------------------------------------- > I'm interested as to how you obtained the affidavits from Ft. Worth. I > obtained the enrollment case files for my ancestors who were rejected. The > interviews by the Commission on the Five Civilized Tribes indicated > affidavits. However, there were none in the files. Also, their attorney was > present and stated that he would provide proof within 30 days. That > information was not in the file either. Any idea of where and how I can > obtain the affidavits and attorney info? > > Thanks, > Lori > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > >

My mother has a scanner that I can use.

--part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Baker74771@cs.com> From: Baker74771@cs.com Full-name: Baker74771 Message-ID: <30.2faa18bc.2af0b87e@cs.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:22:22 EST Subject: Mima Morris To: choctawsoutheast-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 103 I just received the 1896 citizenship application copies of papers from Ft. Worth on application for citizenship of A.A. Spring. I was very happy to see that there are many affidavits stating that "Mima Morris" Jemima Morris my Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandmother was full blood Choctaw according to the affidavits. Most of the affidavits were from other Choctaw Indians who had to make a notarized X mark. Some were from a couple of names that I recognized from the Mississippi denied roll. (Such as Eliza Jack and Frances Isaac) One of the affidavits was from a man that had been one of the Secretary's of the Choctaw Nation. If I want to get the other 500 pages of the case file I am going to have to send Ft. Worth about $250. Also, I believe I have found my gt gt gt gt Grandfather on the attatchment to the Armstrong roll. He is listed as Barton, orphan son of Ahocatubbee. My relatives name was Thomas B Franklin. I am also researching the other side of the family, but this is what I have found. If any one would like copies of what I found, please let me know. --part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary--

I cannot find my George W. Reed's date of birth right now. I will have to look back at so some old papers that I have. He married Jane Folsom on July 9 1850 ..Later they were in Grimes, Texas. I will let you know if I find his birth date. Thank you. I think that Dugdemoney Louisiana might be Quitman Louisiana like one response has given. Because I cannot find quicitan.

I wouldn't mind seeing what you got on Jemima Morris...was that her maiden name, or married name? I have Morrises who married into my Goins, and at least the children were Choctaw thru the Goins...I don't know about the Morris line tho...Got a scanner? B.E. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Baker74771@cs.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Fwd: Mima Morris > > --part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: <Baker74771@cs.com> > From: Baker74771@cs.com > Full-name: Baker74771 > Message-ID: <30.2faa18bc.2af0b87e@cs.com> > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:22:22 EST > Subject: Mima Morris > To: choctawsoutheast-L@rootsweb.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 103 > > I just received the 1896 citizenship application copies of papers from Ft. > Worth on > application for citizenship of A.A. Spring. I was very happy to see that > there are > many affidavits stating that "Mima Morris" Jemima Morris my Gt Gt Gt Gt > Grandmother was full blood Choctaw according to the affidavits. Most of the > affidavits > were from other Choctaw Indians who had to make a notarized X mark. Some > were from a couple of names that I recognized from the Mississippi denied > roll. (Such as > Eliza Jack and Frances Isaac) One of the affidavits was from a man that had > been > one of the Secretary's of the Choctaw Nation. If I want to get the other 500 > pages of > the case file I am going to have to send Ft. Worth about $250. > > Also, I believe I have found my gt gt gt gt Grandfather on the attatchment to > the Armstrong roll. He is listed as Barton, orphan son of Ahocatubbee. > My relatives name was Thomas B Franklin. > > I am also researching the other side of the family, but this is what I have > found. > If any one would like copies of what I found, please let me know. > > --part1_97.2feb534d.2af0b900_boundary-- > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

I don't know about your George Reed, but Dougdemona (I am sure I haven't spelled that correctly) is a bayou south of Ruston, Louisiana, probably in Lincoln Parish. Hope this helps. Kitty

Sandra, I thought I recognized your name, but without the Doolittle, my memory wasn't "jogged" enough. I am glad that I was able to help you and look forward to hearing about your research. Warmest regards, Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scalawag1867@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: What a great help Jackie A. Matte has been to me and all who needs help. > > Hi Jackie, > > This is Sandra Waldrop Doolittle. Thank you so much > for your information. I called Forth Worth , Texas and they > are working with me. > > You were a Blessing as always. This isn't the first > time you have taken the time to go above and beyond > what it takes to help anyone who needs help. > > I will keep you posted what I hear from Fort Worth, > Texas. > > You were a great help in my Washington County, Alabama research and my > Waldrop Baxter, Woulard, and Master's > names. > > I am looking so forward to finding out if my grandmother Minnie L. Waldrop > was Choctaw Indain > and who her papa was. > > Thanks Jackie....you are truly a Blessing. > > Sandra > maiden name Waldrop > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Hi Jackie, This is Sandra Waldrop Doolittle. Thank you so much for your information. I called Forth Worth , Texas and they are working with me. You were a Blessing as always. This isn't the first time you have taken the time to go above and beyond what it takes to help anyone who needs help. I will keep you posted what I hear from Fort Worth, Texas. You were a great help in my Washington County, Alabama research and my Waldrop Baxter, Woulard, and Master's names. I am looking so forward to finding out if my grandmother Minnie L. Waldrop was Choctaw Indain and who her papa was. Thanks Jackie....you are truly a Blessing. Sandra maiden name Waldrop

In the early morning darkness of November 13, 1833, a shower of meteorites fell over Alabama. That is the origin of the name of the song "Stars Fell on Alabama." According to legend, lots of people "got religion" from that event! Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Johnston" <vjjohnst@yahoo.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Julia THOMPSON "about the time the stars fell" > Can anyone elaborate on what this means: "about the time the stars fell" > under Julia Thompson's testimony? > > -------------------------------- > Q. How big a girl were you? > A. Seven years old. > Q. That was about the time the stars fell? > A. Yes, directly after-wards. > -------------------------------- > > I assume this may have been a meteor shower or comet?? > > Thanks! > Jeanette > > --------------- > Forwarded Message > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:00:08 -0600 > From: "Judy" <jwhite@unitedwestern.net> > To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Julia THOMPSON > > >>We have now completed the Julia Thompson packet and you can view it at > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/thompson > The case files are there for: Julia Thompson<< > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

From the context of the testimony at that time, I took it to mean that this was the time when Native Americans were rounded up and moved along the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma. That's just my thought and assumption. Perhaps it has a specific meaning to someone else. I'd like to hear other views also. Also, I want to thank you for reading Julia's enrollment case file. She was my ggg grandmother. Lori

A VERY good site.....Cms. Meteors and Native Americans.. I found it by using keyword Leonid Meteor 1834. Fran Bolton

In a message dated 10/28/2002 10:18:20 PM Central Standard Time, vjjohnst@yahoo.com writes: > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/thompson > Use.... METEOR..1834..AL...as keywords to bring up sites mentioning the Leonid Meteor Shower at that time. Fran Bolton

Can anyone elaborate on what this means: "about the time the stars fell" under Julia Thompson's testimony? -------------------------------- Q. How big a girl were you? A. Seven years old. Q. That was about the time the stars fell? A. Yes, directly after-wards. -------------------------------- I assume this may have been a meteor shower or comet?? Thanks! Jeanette --------------- Forwarded Message Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:00:08 -0600 From: "Judy" <jwhite@unitedwestern.net> To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Julia THOMPSON >>We have now completed the Julia Thompson packet and you can view it at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/thompson The case files are there for: Julia Thompson<< __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sullivan,Brown. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1009 Message Board Post: I am looking for a Sarah Brown, she was living with her husband N.P. Sullivan on the 1910 Pike co. census. I am told that she was Native American, Choctow. I know nothing about her. Looking for any infromation. Patsy