Good artical my Friend Walk in Beauty Elkdreamer

Here's a good article on the MOWAs and our dear one Jackie Matte: http://www.msnbc.com/local/wpmi/americaniwilf.asp dusty

You're welcome, Jackie. We usually find such interesting articles in the Dallas Morning News...not this time, but am glad to read it did appear in other newspapers. Seldom ever watch MSNBC. Angelyn ------ Original Message ----- From: Jackie Matte Sent: Tue, Dec 3, 2002 9:49am To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Alabama "MOWA" Choctaws in S'Western Alabama Angelyn, thank you for your interest.. The article is on MSNBC News. Other newspapers have printed it too. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Alabama "MOWA" Choctaws in S'Western Alabama > Thought you'd all be interested in reading about a certain portion of an article in this morning Daily Oklahoman re Chief Wilford "Longhair" Taylor's fighting for federal recognition of the Mowa Choctaws: To Wit; "Another powerful weapon in the quest for recognition is a book, "They Say the Wind is Red", by retired teacher and historian Jacqueline Anderson Matte of Mountain Brook". The article goes on to say that "Matte's book, which includes Census records from the 1800s, summarizes the tribe's ancestral history and explains how racially discriminatory policies contributed to the lack of documentary records". If you go back in Choctaw S'East Archives, you'll find many mentions of Jackie's book. > The newspaper article was written by Garry Mitchell, an Associated Press Writer. I don't know whether it can be accessed or not, but hope no-one asks me to type the whole thing! > Angelyn > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm

Angelyn, thank you for your interest.. The article is on MSNBC News. Other newspapers have printed it too. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELYN CUNNINGHAM" <angelync@msn.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Alabama "MOWA" Choctaws in S'Western Alabama > Thought you'd all be interested in reading about a certain portion of an article in this morning Daily Oklahoman re Chief Wilford "Longhair" Taylor's fighting for federal recognition of the Mowa Choctaws: To Wit; "Another powerful weapon in the quest for recognition is a book, "They Say the Wind is Red", by retired teacher and historian Jacqueline Anderson Matte of Mountain Brook". The article goes on to say that "Matte's book, which includes Census records from the 1800s, summarizes the tribe's ancestral history and explains how racially discriminatory policies contributed to the lack of documentary records". If you go back in Choctaw S'East Archives, you'll find many mentions of Jackie's book. > The newspaper article was written by Garry Mitchell, an Associated Press Writer. I don't know whether it can be accessed or not, but hope no-one asks me to type the whole thing! > Angelyn > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at http://www.choctaw-web.com for censuses, genealogy lessons, articles, etc. > >

Here is a copy of the information that Jackie sent to me........... http://www.msnbc.com/local/wpmi/americaniwilf.asp

Thought you'd all be interested in reading about a certain portion of an article in this morning Daily Oklahoman re Chief Wilford "Longhair" Taylor's fighting for federal recognition of the Mowa Choctaws: To Wit; "Another powerful weapon in the quest for recognition is a book, "They Say the Wind is Red", by retired teacher and historian Jacqueline Anderson Matte of Mountain Brook". The article goes on to say that "Matte's book, which includes Census records from the 1800s, summarizes the tribe's ancestral history and explains how racially discriminatory policies contributed to the lack of documentary records". If you go back in Choctaw S'East Archives, you'll find many mentions of Jackie's book. The newspaper article was written by Garry Mitchell, an Associated Press Writer. I don't know whether it can be accessed or not, but hope no-one asks me to type the whole thing! Angelyn

I'm getting somewhere when it comes to searching my father's heritage. He has his birth certificate that lists his adopted parents as his parents. His adopted parents are no longer with us but would not have been cooperative anyway. We don't know anything else for sure. We are not even possitive that he is Choctaw. We have lots of speculation: white mom, choctaw father, at least one brother, possible through the catholic church but we don't have anything as a fact. All we have is the altered birth certificate. I contacted Omni search. They told me I have more info than most. They think this is an easy case. They said his birth certificate leads them straight to the original birth certificate. The hard part-the part they specialize in- is finding the birth mother, getting all info on her from dentist visits to marriages. They said it could take up to 8 months and since it is such a simple case that it will only cost $700. I said I couldn't afford that. They said I can pay $233 now, $233 in 60 days and $233 60 days after that but I had to put it on a credit card to insure payment. I have to sign and notarize and so does my father and then we return paperwork and they get started. The good thing about all this is that no one will know we are looking for them and when we are finished, they never even have to be contacted. If we choose to contact, we can or the company can. The down side is that fathers can be hard to find since they do not have to sign anything. So, we never actually prove his heritage, but we will find his family. I hope this info helped someone. Christy

Christy, I would say if the birth certificate leads them straight to the birth mother, it should you also. I am not positive but under The Indian Welfare Act your father may have some legal rights also, at least it would be worth a try to contact them. I did find this one link http://www.ptla.org/wabanaki/icwa.htm it might be of some help. Judy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WILLIS & JOhnson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1023 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on Mrs. Ruth (WILLIS) Johnson. She was enrolled as a CHOCTAW Freedmen along with her mother, Rose (Oakes) Willis, and the rest of her sibilings: Georgia, Francis, Cora, Thomas, Walter, Emma. Ruth married Jim Johnson and had at least two children: Georgie Johnson (b. 1893) and Lilly Johnson (b. 1901). Jim and Ruth at one time lived in Checotah, Texas (in 1903).

dgoerger@dca.net wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1008.1 > >Message Board Post: > hi, See my dad was adopted and I don't know any thing about his mother and father except they were both full blooded Choctaw so that makes me half and I am trying to learn more about my heritage.He was born in Mississippi but my grandparents won't give me my dads adpotion papers.They take it as a insult to them.But I am very intrested in my culture so I am trying to learn any thing I can about the Choctaw people Well write back soon thanks for replying, Jillian > > >==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== >Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1008.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I have Arkansas relatives with the surnames of Gunter, Hooper and Angel. All reported to have native heritage. There are current Williams and Wilsons listed ( 1940-1950). Not sure if there is a connection.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1021.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Corrine, I am afraid that the only info I have on Bradley's would be for Annette with the b. and d. dates. Same for John Dykes. I have found no other info. concerning the two. I will keep a watch for your Bradley's- it is possible that I need to search in a different area (state). Thank you for your reply. Debra

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRADLEY/CONN/IVEY/JONES Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1021.1 Message Board Post: Debra, Bradley m. my Great Aunt Ida Conn lived near present site of Denison Dam in Grayson Co TX d. before 1895 left a son and two daughters - one daughter was adopted by a doctor in Sherman TX. Aunt Ida's brother John H Conn b. 1854/1860 KY/KN m. Evlenne Ivey Oklahoma Indian Territory/Grayson Co TX son Frank b. 1880 Grayson Co TX. removed to Fort Bend Co TX. My Gmother Sally Conn b. MO m. William W Jones b. 1860 OKIT murdered on the sands of Red River 1888 d. 1895 leaving dau Unus (Eunice) Anna Jones b. 1888 d. 1987. Pleas and thank you for any info on this Bradley, Corine Elvira

yOU Migh Ck infirmation on Choctaw Card # 7 -- both Elizabeth and James Johnson are listed on this card Hope this helps Homa Ray Short -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of TODDDDUKE@CS.COM Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:05 AM To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Johnson-Tyson connection This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johnson, Tyson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1022 Message Board Post: Trying to research my Native American heritage. My gr-gr-gr-grandmother was of Choctaw descent. Her name was Elizabeth Johnson. She was born in Mississippi, 1836, and married John Wesley Tyson. The lived in and around Choctaw County, MS. He died during the Civil War near Corinth, MS. Elizabeth then moved in with her brother, James Lee Johnson. Any info would be appreciated. ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johnson, Tyson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1022 Message Board Post: Trying to research my Native American heritage. My gr-gr-gr-grandmother was of Choctaw descent. Her name was Elizabeth Johnson. She was born in Mississippi, 1836, and married John Wesley Tyson. The lived in and around Choctaw County, MS. He died during the Civil War near Corinth, MS. Elizabeth then moved in with her brother, James Lee Johnson. Any info would be appreciated.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradley, dykes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1021 Message Board Post: I am searching for information about a John Dykes (1883-1939) or especially an Annette Bradley(1886-1954). They were married 4/1/04. John Dykes later married a Dean Dykes (1907-1981). They lived in the Green or Perry County of Mississippi.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Anderson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1020 Message Board Post: Hi. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about Willis Byrd Anderson. He is suppose to be Choctaw. He had a son name Wills Anderson who married Inez Coppock. The rumors in my family is that Willis Byrd Anderson's father is Jesse Anderson. My grandmother thinks that maybe Wills' last name could have Byrd and maybe he picked up the last name Anderson. We can't find anything on them. Willis (jr.) was born in the late 1800's or early 1900's. The Anderson's were from the Frogville Oklahoma area. Any information would be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Edwards Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/1016.1.1 Message Board Post: My great-great grandmother's Name was Anna Arenda Edwards. Her mother's name was Rachel Dean. Do you have any ideas about these people? I am just starting the geneaology thing. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Spong Muck Fields Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/402.665.3 Message Board Post: I was wondering if your uncle, Floyd Spong, is related (grand son) to Charles Richard Spong who married Catherine Muck in 1889 and worked on the C&O Canal.