Halito, I am Choctaw and have a number of Barneses. You will have to excuse me though, I have lost some of my data and reorganizing what I have left, so I'll only be able to give you part of what I have for now. The Barnes name is a trader name. As you might be aware, most of the traders intermarried into the tribes they were trading with. The data I have for you today, is taken from a list of people from my family, who attempted enrollment in the Choctaw Tribe during the Dawes' Commission. The Barneses on my list are: Athley Barnes MCR# 7167, application# 911; Lydia Barnes MCR# 6544, application# 276, 279a. You can order these records from the NARA and they are usually loaded with genealogical information. I will be ordering more information soon and will get back with you on what I have found. I will also get back with you after I am finished reorganizing my data. It will take some time, though as I have a considerable amount to do. I do have more info. on the Barnes family. Imafo paynengineering@yahoo.com wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lorenzo Dow Hendrix, Katherine Benson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1411 Message Board Post: Halito, Sa hohchifo ut Larry Payne. I am new to this genealogy stuff so if I become confusing, I am sorry. Trying to trace back my Father's People. I'm not trying to "prove" anything, just wanting to know my People. Father's name: Howard C. Payne - Born 21 Apr 1912 in Canadian township, Pittsburg county, OK., Died 13 Sep 1991, Hugo, OK His Mother's name: Francis M. Hendrix - Born 1892 in Arkansas (this is all I have, sorry). His Mother's Father: Lorenzo Dow Hendrix - Born 1841 either in Mississippi or Alabama (either around Philadelphia MS or in Mobile or Washington county AL). Married Katherine K. Benson c. 1880. Died 1912 in OK (probably in Crowder or Canadian, Pittsburg county, OK). Katherine Kate or Katy Benson was born either in 1854 or 1860 in Alabama and died in 1928 in Crowder, Pittsburg county, OK and is buried in Crowder Cemetery. Katy was married previously to marrying my Gr-Grandad Lorenzo, to James William Barnes. James was killed in 1880 by white people, probably in Crowder/Canadian and is buried in Crowder Cemetery. I lose track of these folks in MS or AL and can get no further back than that. My Father was some blood quantum and we were always told that his mother (Francis W. Hendrix) was "a lot Indian", whatever "a lot" is. We were never told much more than this, whether that is because our Father WAS Indian or, possibly, because his Mother and Father maybe didn't have "the benefit of clergy". I do know that we kids (my Brother, who is the Judge down at Hugo, and I) were never told that our REAL Grandmother (Francis) and all her folks were living right there in Crowder, along with our Mother's folks and our Father's Father (Walter Payne) and his Step-mother. Never told, never talked about. Darn shame. I'd probably have liked Francis............... Yokoke, Larry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Thank you, Looking forward to receiving more information from you. Larry ----- Original Message ---- From: Richard Wilson <imafo.hopiah@yahoo.com> To: choctaw@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:45:03 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Help me find my People, please. Halito, I am Choctaw and have a number of Barneses. You will have to excuse me though, I have lost some of my data and reorganizing what I have left, so I'll only be able to give you part of what I have for now. The Barnes name is a trader name. As you might be aware, most of the traders intermarried into the tribes they were trading with. The data I have for you today, is taken from a list of people from my family, who attempted enrollment in the Choctaw Tribe during the Dawes' Commission. The Barneses on my list are: Athley Barnes MCR# 7167, application# 911; Lydia Barnes MCR# 6544, application# 276, 279a. You can order these records from the NARA and they are usually loaded with genealogical information. I will be ordering more information soon and will get back with you on what I have found. I will also get back with you after I am finished reorganizing my data. It will take some time, though as I have a considerable amount to do. I do have more info. on the Barnes family. Imafo paynengineering@yahoo.com wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lorenzo Dow Hendrix, Katherine Benson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1411 Message Board Post: Halito, Sa hohchifo ut Larry Payne. I am new to this genealogy stuff so if I become confusing, I am sorry. Trying to trace back my Father's People. I'm not trying to "prove" anything, just wanting to know my People. Father's name: Howard C. Payne - Born 21 Apr 1912 in Canadian township, Pittsburg county, OK., Died 13 Sep 1991, Hugo, OK His Mother's name: Francis M. Hendrix - Born 1892 in Arkansas (this is all I have, sorry). His Mother's Father: Lorenzo Dow Hendrix - Born 1841 either in Mississippi or Alabama (either around Philadelphia MS or in Mobile or Washington county AL). Married Katherine K. Benson c. 1880. Died 1912 in OK (probably in Crowder or Canadian, Pittsburg county, OK). Katherine Kate or Katy Benson was born either in 1854 or 1860 in Alabama and died in 1928 in Crowder, Pittsburg county, OK and is buried in Crowder Cemetery. Katy was married previously to marrying my Gr-Grandad Lorenzo, to James William Barnes. James was killed in 1880 by white people, probably in Crowder/Canadian and is buried in Crowder Cemetery. I lose track of these folks in MS or AL and can get no further back than that. My Father was some blood quantum and we were always told that his mother (Francis W. Hendrix) was "a lot Indian", whatever "a lot" is. We were never told much more than this, whether that is because our Father WAS Indian or, possibly, because his Mother and Father maybe didn't have "the benefit of clergy". I do know that we kids (my Brother, who is the Judge down at Hugo, and I) were never told that our REAL Grandmother (Francis) and all her folks were living right there in Crowder, along with our Mother's folks and our Father's Father (Walter Payne) and his Step-mother. Never told, never talked about. Darn shame. I'd probably have liked Francis............... Yokoke, Larry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message