This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vancehawkins1952 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/953.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well I wish I'd come back here! :) I'd forgotten I'd posted and didn't know anyone had responded. In the last few years I came to realize those people who said my Harriet Guess (1818-1886) was the daughter of Martin Guess/t -- were just "guessing" themselves (pun intended). They had no proof at all that my Hariet was daughter of Martin Guess/t. So I was mad for a while -- live and learn. I'm over it. :) Census records give Hariet (Guess) Brown place of birth as Alabama (1850), Tennessee (1860 and 70), and her daughter, my great grandma, said her mother was born in Alabama (1880 census), and said Mississippi in 1900 Chickasaw Nation census, and 1910 and 1920 Oklahoma census records she also said her mother (Harriet) was born in Mississippi. I found a record of John Guess/t emigrating from Mississippi from the Chickasaw Nation in Mississippi in 1840 saying he arrived in Oklahoma with several in his party including a female 10-25 years old. Harriet was about 22 years old in 1840. Joseph's father was Joseph Guess/t and he is recorded in the Texas war for independence from Mexico, as is Martin Guess/t. Perhaps they were brothers who married Choctaw or Chickasaw women? Also found a John Guess/t who was called an "Indian, a relative of Sequoyah" in Campbell County, Tn about 1800 or so. Source is not given tho -- making it questionable. Our family story says Harriet was a "niece or great niece" of Sequoyah -- no proof of it at all, though. I believe I've seen the name "Martin Guess/t on Choctaw rolls and "John Guess/t" on Chickasaw rolls. Also many Freedmen are Guess/t's I think. My autosomal DNA test said I am mostly Caucasian, but triracial -- also American Indian and African American. I think these Guess/t's are related, including Sequoyah -- but can't prove it. Could easily be wrong . . . :) vh ps -- my great uncle wrote about us in "Indian/Pioneer Papers" saying they lived in Leflore County in the 1870s, then N Tx (Denton County) in the 1880s, then back north to the Chickasaw Nation from 1889 until statehood. Family story says they started to sign up for Dawes, but changed their mind, so we are not on accepted or rejected rolls. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.