This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2848.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In looking through the Dawes Rolls, the following people applied for enrollment ( in any Indian Nation)and were denied: Loyd, Anita Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation Loyd, Ida Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation Loyd, John J. Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation Loyd, Bethe L. Case # 1666 Cherokee nation Loyd, John G. Case # 2327 Cherokee Nation Loyd, Ida Case # 2969 Cherokee nation To determine why these people were denied you will have to locate their enrollment applications, either through the Oklahoma Historical Society in Oklahoma City, or the National Archives in Fort Worth. The only Loyd's who were enrolled were: Loyd, John J. 35 yrs old white male, Intermarried Choctaw Loyd, Sarah 21 yr female Choctaw Full blood Many who applied were denied because they could not produce witnesses to testify to the fact that they were known to be of Indian ancestry, in some cases, fault was found with the witnesses that were brought forth. You would have to get copies of the enrollment jackets on your family to determine what the circumstances were. There were also some people who did have Indian blood, but thought it wiser to not enroll. Others denied their blood altogether to make life easier for themselves and their families in a white world. I hope somethign here gives you aplace to continue your quest. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.