Hi Markie, I can handle the wolves. There is more than here than meets the eye! I will never go out and solicit whites or others to turn face and cover for the Choctaw Nation. That is not how we honorably do things. Bit. we still want the $250 per head that the Choctaw Nation has coming from the feds to help build a stronger and more vibrant Choctaw Nation. Fact: The Choctaw Nation is sending out the census cards to each member and telling us how to fill out the cards at the end of March. Right or wrong if I do not becomes the head of the household for this event my family will not be recorded as Native Americans and Choctaws to be correct. As said in my email you deserve the title of Choctaw more than I. You have spent a lifetime in research and study but that is not how you get registered. But, for a fluke of luck I am the documented Choctaw. I do not mind the nipping at the heals of my footwear as long as I am not blindsided by the arguments. Oops, I didn't see them coming!!! I did just what happened to you when you sent out that "Oops" and hit the button to the wrong list. If Jacque's asks I will tell her what happened. I do not slam one friend in the face to get to another. I enjoy both Jacque's and your lists. I believe in wading in and becoming one of the Choctaws with the rest of them. I will be honest with all of the people that ask a question or whatever until the day that I am lied to. Anyway the list is up and alive with interest. I love it! It is pointed directly at the roots of the Choctaw. What more can you ask for. Add a little spice to the stew! Oh! Mama Mia! Ellen > [Original Message] > From: Markie <mlo99@bellsouth.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/16/00 1:11:22 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW] Re: 2000 census > > Hi Ellen, > > Well I have to put my two cents in here.. <G> First, I love you too, but I > want to say that this is not my list, but it belongs to Jacque. Jacque > paid for the CHOCTAW list, and I paid for the CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST list.. :) > She and I just support each other, and help each other out when we can. > Sorry Jacque. > > Now.. from what I understand, it doesn't matter who literally takes the pen > in their hand, and fills out the 2000 census. The only thing that matters, > as far as Native Americans are concerned... is... who is listed as "head > of household"... wheither it is the husband, wife, grandparents, uncle, or > whoever LIVES in that house that is Indian, then they would be the person > "written down" as "head of household"... Over all, this will increase the > count of Native Americans for appropriations of funds later. > > I'm not sure about the Tribal census cards that are being sent out. Does > that mean you will only fill out one for the tribe and not the Federal Gov. > one? If you are getting one from the Choctaw nation, then my daughters are > getting one from the Osage Nation.... I need to call each one of them to > make sure they fill it out correctly. > > You are correct on me not ever being enrolled. But, like Doug said, I am > Indian. This is not something that I just learned about, or found out > through genealogy, in the last few months, or years. I have known this my > whole life. Everyone in my family knew it. So even tho I am not > enrolled, I will fill out my census as Native American. It is honorable, > I am honoring my grandparents, my parents. It is not a lie. My Daddy > would roll over in his grave if he heard me telling a lie. <G> It is who I > am. It will never benefit me in "any" way. It will not make me a tribal > member, no way, no how. It won't make a difference for me personally if I > put Indian, White, or Irish. But it may benefit my people. To me, > that's all that matters. I hope it will help out my Osage grandchildren, > but that is all it could possibly do for me. > > I "am" the head of household... just ask my hubby.. LOL > > I can't help it if all my great and gg, and ggg grandparents liked > Louisiana so much they wouldn't leave!! Well they left Ms. and came "west" > of the Ms. River, they must have figured that was far enough!! haha > > Markie > > >Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:48:10 -0600 > >From: "Ellen Scott" <us2scotts@earthlink.net> > >To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <412000231604810120@earthlink.net> > >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] 2000 census > >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > >Kelli, > > > >In no way did you offend me. I get a lot of questions and I try to answer > >them to the best of my ability and as clearly as possible. I do not know > >always where a person is coming from. I believe that most of us are kind > >hearted (at least that is what I want to believe). In many cases I have > >found that people such as Markie that can not prove that they are Indian > >(the government's definition)but, I with less knowledge of the Choctaws > >have the right to be a member of the Choctaw Nation because my Great > >Grandfather followed up with registering my Grandfather and his Half sister > >after the death of my Choctaw Great grandmother. Without both of them doing > >their job, we would be in Markie's position. It's a shame but it happens. > > > >But, believe me I have made some of the closest friends on this list. I owe > >it to the lady that put out the cold cash to start this list. She listens, > >she cares, and she makes the flow of this mail list one of the best. > > > >Ask any question and someone of us will find a way to get a answer. > > > >Ellen > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. 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