ARushing, I have soo much information on the IRWIN surname it is not funny. I run the IRWIN mailing list here at rootsweb so I get it all :) I am working on my family tree all by myself on every surname in it.. I have parts of each tree back as far as 1838 with some gaps still needing to be filled.. I'll zip some files for you on the surname of IRWIN and ERWIN and send them to you sometime this weekend.. I have photos also if you would like them from both names, IRWIN and ERWIN all black and white.. Older photos mainly.. Some I am not sure who is in them but they were in my great grandmothers albums.. Jennifer