I only mention Dr. John Threadgill because I have typed up that name so many times, I have that surname stuck in my head, and it does not even belong to me! He was an early day politician-mover-and-shaker in Oklahoma. Of course the Gann name is a pretty well known Cherokee name...there is even a Gann, Oklahoma named after them. Seems like with two well known names you should be able to get SOMEWHERE. Nalora