Hello, Mostly I have been just "listening" to the list but thought I better "toss some bait, if I want to catch a fish" as grandpa used to say. <g> This is one of my space alien grandmothers. Nothing on her prior to her marriage in 1830. I have a copy of an old letter written by one of her grand daughters about 1950, when she was about 70. My gg grandmother was Cordelia Amanda IVY, born 1810, GA, married WIlliam Cherry CRISP, Sept. 1830, Columbia CO. GA. The letter writer was their grand daughter Nonie, b. 1880 She had written to a neice about the family pedigree. In the letter she says her gggrandparents were named PEACHLIN, this would have been about 1770 +/- for their births. No given names. The PEACHLINs had a daughter, b. ca 1790, who married a THEDFORD, again no given names. The Thedfords were parents of Cordelia Amanda. She must have been married previously to marrying CRISP, as the record shows IVY. Nonie said before her mother Susannah Tennessee CRISP KITCHENS died in 1889, they had gotten together the paper work to prove their heritage. This must have been about the time just before the Dawes hearings. Her father had traced all their living relatives and descendents of the people she mentioned. "?? the Corn" was the main Peachlin living. This person and his wife had gone to Grayson CO. TX, where the KITCHENS were living at the time, just after her mother died, to persuade her father to come to IT to accept Tennessee's allotment. They didn't have any children and told him if he would give them the children, they were "rich"and could take care of the kids. her father could live close, and they would help him get the land. Nonie says they were full blood Cherokee, but due to some little incidentals, I am exploring the idea that they may have been Choctaw. A cousin has mentioned maybe the name was Pitchlyn, which I know is Choctaw, and I remember reading in a book about Peter Pitchlyn that there was one of his children? that had no children and took care of orphans. Also the close proximity of Grayson County ( specifically Bell's Station, halfway between Sherman and Denison) to the Choctaw Nation. It would have been quite a distance from the Cherokee Nation, and I got the impression from the letter that her father was talking to family that was not so far away. Ethel Taylor Bandony1@cs.com 55500 Bates Rd. Bandon, OR 97411 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& The mistakes we make in life are not as important as the lessons we draw from them CRISP-L, PRINCE-L, OKKIOWA-L Searching: A S H L E Y*C R I S P *P R I N C E *C A R T E R *C H E R R Y *I V Y* T H E T F O R D*W A R R I C K*T E N N E L L*W A T E R S http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4231/ Kiowa Co. OK, Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation, Cheyenne-Arapaho Reservation, Civil War In Indian Territory http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1263/