This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dsegelquist Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1349.4.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry I have no other info on her other then whats on my post. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjharkey Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1349.4.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is this Betty the daughter of William Beams and his Choctaw wife? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Greetings! I am searching for information on Walter H. Jackson (B 1873, Bell County, Texas D 1960 Temple, Texas) and his wife, Sallie D. Barker (B 1875, Temple, Texas, D 1925, Temple, Texas). We have third hand information that one of them is from the Choctaw Nation. Due to some family stupidity, family members are denying that the relatives were Native American. Can anyone assist me? Thank You, Bob in Sacramento, CA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2848.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In looking through the Dawes Rolls, the following people applied for enrollment ( in any Indian Nation)and were denied: Loyd, Anita Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation Loyd, Ida Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation Loyd, John J. Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation Loyd, Bethe L. Case # 1666 Cherokee nation Loyd, John G. Case # 2327 Cherokee Nation Loyd, Ida Case # 2969 Cherokee nation To determine why these people were denied you will have to locate their enrollment applications, either through the Oklahoma Historical Society in Oklahoma City, or the National Archives in Fort Worth. The only Loyd's who were enrolled were: Loyd, John J. 35 yrs old white male, Intermarried Choctaw Loyd, Sarah 21 yr female Choctaw Full blood Many who applied were denied because they could not produce witnesses to testify to the fact that they were known to be of Indian ancestry, in some cases, fault was found with the witnesses that were brought forth. You would have to get copies of the enrollment jackets on your family to determine what the circumstances were. There were also some people who did have Indian blood, but thought it wiser to not enroll. Others denied their blood altogether to make life easier for themselves and their families in a white world. I hope somethign here gives you aplace to continue your quest. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Shirley- I checked on access genealogy, but did not find a match for the name. Maybe it was spelled with different variations. _http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php_ (http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php) Carri In a message dated 3/31/2007 10:58:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, shirbrewer@hughes.net writes: Hi Can some one check for the name of Hisaw in this index. I was told that my Hisaw's were of Indian heritage . Trying to find out Thank you very much Shirley ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Shirley: I would like to ask a question There is a Richard Henson/Hinson who has applied on the Cherokee rolls - after you find the number, what is the next step to locate data on the application??? Wanda C -----Original Message----- From: choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Shirley Brewer Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:17 AM To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; choctaw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Choctaw Blood Confirmed Hi Can you check on the name Hisaw for any Indian reg.for me Thank you Shirley gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Bonnie_Rapert > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/28 48.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > In looking through the Dawes Rolls, the following people applied for enrollment ( in any Indian Nation)and were denied: > > Loyd, Anita Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > Loyd, Ida Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > Loyd, John J. Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > > Loyd, Bethe L. Case # 1666 Cherokee nation > Loyd, John G. Case # 2327 Cherokee Nation > Loyd, Ida Case # 2969 Cherokee nation > > To determine why these people were denied you will have to locate their enrollment applications, either through the Oklahoma Historical Society in Oklahoma City, or the National Archives in Fort Worth. > > The only Loyd's who were enrolled were: > > Loyd, John J. 35 yrs old white male, Intermarried Choctaw > Loyd, Sarah 21 yr female Choctaw Full blood > > Many who applied were denied because they could not produce witnesses to testify to the fact that they were known to be of Indian ancestry, in some cases, fault was found with the witnesses that were brought forth. You would have to get copies of the enrollment jackets on your family to determine what the circumstances were. > There were also some people who did have Indian blood, but thought it wiser to not enroll. Others denied their blood altogether to make life easier for themselves and their families in a white world. > I hope somethign here gives you aplace to continue your quest. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Hisaw friends who hail from Choctaw Co., MS. Area - is this by chance, the family you are tracing? Wanda C -----Original Message----- From: choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Shirley Brewer Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:17 AM To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; choctaw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Choctaw Blood Confirmed Hi Can you check on the name Hisaw for any Indian reg.for me Thank you Shirley gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Bonnie_Rapert > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/28 48.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > In looking through the Dawes Rolls, the following people applied for enrollment ( in any Indian Nation)and were denied: > > Loyd, Anita Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > Loyd, Ida Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > Loyd, John J. Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > > Loyd, Bethe L. Case # 1666 Cherokee nation > Loyd, John G. Case # 2327 Cherokee Nation > Loyd, Ida Case # 2969 Cherokee nation > > To determine why these people were denied you will have to locate their enrollment applications, either through the Oklahoma Historical Society in Oklahoma City, or the National Archives in Fort Worth. > > The only Loyd's who were enrolled were: > > Loyd, John J. 35 yrs old white male, Intermarried Choctaw > Loyd, Sarah 21 yr female Choctaw Full blood > > Many who applied were denied because they could not produce witnesses to testify to the fact that they were known to be of Indian ancestry, in some cases, fault was found with the witnesses that were brought forth. You would have to get copies of the enrollment jackets on your family to determine what the circumstances were. > There were also some people who did have Indian blood, but thought it wiser to not enroll. Others denied their blood altogether to make life easier for themselves and their families in a white world. > I hope somethign here gives you aplace to continue your quest. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sometimes they spelled it: Highsaw-Hysaw-Hisaw Shirley Kehkeh1@aol.com wrote: > > Shirley- > > I checked on access genealogy, but did not find a match for the name. Maybe > it was spelled with different variations. > > _http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php_ > (http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php) > > Carri > > In a message dated 3/31/2007 10:58:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > shirbrewer@hughes.net writes: > > Hi > Can some one check for the name of Hisaw in this index. I was told that > my Hisaw's were of Indian heritage . Trying to find out > > Thank you very much > Shirley > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Can some one check for the name of Hisaw in this index. I was told that my Hisaw's were of Indian heritage . Trying to find out Thank you very much Shirley

Hi Can you check on the name Hisaw for any Indian reg.for me Thank you Shirley gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Bonnie_Rapert > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2848.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > In looking through the Dawes Rolls, the following people applied for enrollment ( in any Indian Nation)and were denied: > > Loyd, Anita Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > Loyd, Ida Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > Loyd, John J. Case # 1253 Choctaw Nation > > Loyd, Bethe L. Case # 1666 Cherokee nation > Loyd, John G. Case # 2327 Cherokee Nation > Loyd, Ida Case # 2969 Cherokee nation > > To determine why these people were denied you will have to locate their enrollment applications, either through the Oklahoma Historical Society in Oklahoma City, or the National Archives in Fort Worth. > > The only Loyd's who were enrolled were: > > Loyd, John J. 35 yrs old white male, Intermarried Choctaw > Loyd, Sarah 21 yr female Choctaw Full blood > > Many who applied were denied because they could not produce witnesses to testify to the fact that they were known to be of Indian ancestry, in some cases, fault was found with the witnesses that were brought forth. You would have to get copies of the enrollment jackets on your family to determine what the circumstances were. > There were also some people who did have Indian blood, but thought it wiser to not enroll. Others denied their blood altogether to make life easier for themselves and their families in a white world. > I hope somethign here gives you aplace to continue your quest. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deloresdtaylor1 Surnames: Gardner Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2849/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ive been doing research on my husbands family they were choctaw freedman, First David Gardner FR843, roll no.3418 father Jim Harris, mother Silva Gardner, his wife Elsie,roll no. 3419 father Ben James, mother Melvinia James. Been trying to get info, Jim Harris and also Ben James are listed on the choctaw rolls, not listed as slaves. How can I go about researching this. David, Elsie, and all of there family was allotted land, but nothing else as far as I know. I would appricate any help.David Gardner was owned by Wm Gardner and Elsie by Sallie Spring. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CRENYCREW Surnames: Loyd Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2848/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Help I have a problem. In the 1900 Indian Territory Choctaw Nation Township 8 census my family ,Louis J Loyd, is listed. If you know anything about that census it also has a section at the bottom of the page which lists other information relating to Indians. My family is also listed there. My G Grandfather James C Loyd son age 4, is listed as 15/16 Choctaw. Now my problem... They are not found on the Dawes Rolls. Just by that information I am 1/8 Choctaw on him alone. His wife was supposed to be at least 1/2 choctaw or cherokee but can't confirm yet but thats a whole other mess. My family lived around the Panama/Bokoshe,Ok area. That's in Leflore Co. Who can I contact? Thanks in advance. Wade Crenshaw Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Wade, The best bet is to go through the Choctaw Nation...I found them to be very helpful On another subject....what is your Crenshaw background? Curious...I am from Nathaniel Napoleon Bonaparte Crenshaw line. Carla PS did you check the Access Genealogy page for the Dawes roll?

Wade, The best bet is to go through the Choctaw Nation...I found them to be very helpful On another subject....what is your Crenshaw background? Curious...I am from Nathaniel Napoleon Bonaparte Crenshaw line. Carla PS did you check the Access Genealogy page for the Dawes roll?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KathyRoberts54 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2847.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Teresa Not being the world's best typist, I do tend to keep my postings somewhat abrupt. Not angry. But I do sometimes get angry at some of the misleading info that appears on the internet, which may lead a geniune researcher astray. The *Five Civilised Tribes* were the Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek (Muskogee) Chickasaw and Seminole. They were Sovereign Nations, not "indian reservations", with their own Constitutions, Laws and Government. It might be an idea to look at the documented history of the above, and especially the Choctaw Nation. I'm not sure what a "reservation number" is ??? 1920 Perry Co AR Ledgwidge Twp ED 81 JOHNSON Isaac 62 white male b TX Parents b TX Hattie 34 white female b AR Parents b AR Elzie 15 white male b OK Allen 5 b AR Climmie 11 b AR Emmie 8 b AR Jessie 2 b AR Adah 1 b AR In 1930 the Isaac and Hattie JOHNSON family are still in Ledgwidge, Perry Co AR. 3 additional children. Elizabeth 9, B ? 5 (can't read my own handwriting) Mary 3 Next door : Elzie E HUBBARD 25, with wife Hattie children. Note : In the late 1800's/early 1900's there several hundred thousand non Indian persons in Indian Territory. Hope this is helpful. KR Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TeresaHunt57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2847.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: she may not have been a full blooded choctaw but she had a reservation number so she was at least part. My grandmother used to have the paper but it were distroyed when she got TB and almost died. I may have the wrong Hurst family but I know what my grandmother told me was not a lie. She was born in 1887 in what is now known as Braggs Oklahoma at the time of her birth it was Indian Territory that the government set aside for the "five civilized tribes". I am sorry if I made you angry. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KathyRoberts54 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2847.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Teresa If you have traced Hatiie HURST's family back to the well known and well documented HURST family of VA, then there is no way your ancestor was a *full Choctaw* nor was she born on a *reservation*. The Choctaw have a well documented history, and NEVER resided anywhere near Virginia. There are no * Indian reservations*, but there was and is the Choctaw NATION. There was no *Oklahoma* in 1887. According to Federal Census Records, Hattie HURST/HUBBARD/JOHNSON was a white woman, born in Arkansas. Choctaw Freedmen are the former slaves (African) of Choctaw citizens. It might be an idea to review your family history, and obtain some factual information. Kathy Roberts VA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djdees131 Surnames: Pebworth Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2836.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Her name was Dorthy L. Pebworth Dees. Her parents are listed as Preston Pebworth and Vera Pebworth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2836.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have the names of her parents? Or any other info.....when was she born? There are a great many Pebworth's who were enrolled in the Choctaw Nation. If I had more info I might be able to offer some help. kwoneenee@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KayBlake51 Surnames: PHILLIPS-WILLIAMS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1086.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: THERE IS A BLUE CEMETARY IN PITTSBURG, CO I HAVE A G-GRANDMOTHER AND FATHER THAT ARE BURIED THERE PHILLIPS LINE kay blakekay@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.