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My Dear Fellow Kinsman/Tribesman, I received your communication with your e-mail address. Unfortunately, I have no idea for which person's information you are seeking. You see, I receive from 3 - 7 inquiries a week and many of those are requesting information which requires that I request "real" e-mail addys. I'm sorry, but I'm "disabled" and because of my "disability" my thought processes, well, sometimes they don't........process, that is. Not your fault, or problem. Just e-mail me back with the original question, that way I can associate your e-mail addy with you question, then I'll forthwit send you what info I can. Larry Payne Semper Fi BBobBow@aol.com wrote: ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1241.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There was a Jesse Nelson, listed as a Choctaw, who lived in Leake County, Mississipi in December of 1834. That is all I have on him, but that bit of info is found on the Choctaw Reserve Rolls ( microfilm) roll # 192, look at frame 678. He is also mentioned in the book, "Who Was Who Among the Southern Indians 1698 - 1907" by Don Martini, on page 493. There is also an Eden Nelson in the book,also listed as a Choctaw, who was a signer of the 1830 treaty. In 1831 he lived on the west side of Yalobusha River in LeFlore's District. At that time he had 3 members in his household. Some time after signing the treaty he moved to the Tallahatchie River to live. He was witness to a deed in Desoto County, Mississipppi on March 31, 1836. ( Desoto County Deeds, Book A page 32). At the time of his removal to the west, his family consisted of 3 males, 3 females, and 8 slaves. In 1847 his wife, Ishtimahoyo, was living in the Chickasaw Nation where she was listed in the Chickasaw census as being 1/4 white ,and the head of a household that consisted of 2 males under age 18, 1 female under 16, and 1 female ( Ishtimahoyo ) over 16 . In 1855, the census of Kiamitia County ( Choctaw Nation) shows Eden Nelson, and living with him were Nancy, William, and Elzira Nelson. Found on page 493 of the book. Also check the Chickasaw Emigration Rolls microfilm, roll 144, frame 347. An Isaac Nelson, listed as Choctaw lived on the east side of Yalobusha River in 1831, and at that time he had 8 persons in his household. Mitchell Nelson is listed as a Choctaw as well. He was a candidate for district chief in 1866 against George Folsom in 1866. He was living in Blue County in 1883. same book, page 494 That is all the info I have in my materials. Hope some of it is helpful to you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: enelsonlyda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1241.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, guys and gals. Hope everyone is well. I don't know if you are descended from the same Nelsons - but I think so. I have a lot of Nelson family (living) in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia (whew). I say this, tongue in cheek, because I know they are living, I just don't know them... For what it's worth (or not) based on what I know about my specific line, which I can trace to late 1500's - there are many Native American mixes in the Nelson line. First, there are the Rappahanock (Virginia) - still lead today by Nelsons. Then, as they were pushed and killed as shields to settlers, they merged in with Nansemond (Virginia) (still alive today and lead by a Bass). Then, they also merged in with Chowan (VA/NC line) and Monacans. Long story made short - started in Jamestown, mixed with settlers (documented, acknowledged). See Nathaniel Bass (or Nathaniel Basse). As they were continually pushed, further south and in odd directions, a small group - of Nelson, Bass, Taylor, Goins, and Sweatt - all with native heritage as well as settler heritage - grouped together to move further south. One Taylor (Delaney or Dillis or Delaney Dillis Taylor) married a Nelson and had 6 children - then married a Bass and had 6 children. They further re-inforced their native heritage by (hold your breath) having their children marry each other. (In some instances, this means first cousins.) One of their son's, William Taylor Nelson, made a land claim in Mississippi, as a settler. You can continue the chain from there - but their children then married into both French settlers in the Bayou and native Choctaw. That makes it even more interesting, because the French settlers they mixed with were originally, in my line, from Acadia in Canada, who were persecuted and driven out....a totally and very different native, I believe they were known as the Micmac. What does this mean? Well, I'm not sure, except that the band from NC seems to have re-pledged and stated alliance/allegiance to the Nansemond mid-1700's, just prior to their journey. But, in a nutshell, I think, if you're a Nelson, your native line is very looooonnnnnnggggg......much longer than you think. A clue that might help find your specific relative, look in Louisiana for the generation you cannot find. I bet you'll find a link (or two or three...). My father told me we were Choctaw, but little did he know that only a few generations prior, they were not. Best Regards, Lizzy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vancehawkins1952 Surnames: Brown, Guess/t, Hawkins, maybe Allen, maybe others Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1147.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am also interested in any Catawba who might have emigrated to Oklahoma, probably Skullyville, LeFlore Co., either 1840s or 50s. I was curious, what is the source -- documentation -- of the date, 9 Nov 1853? I was told "maybe" 1841, maybe 1851 or 2 -- my source said he was going from memory and the date might be off. I haven't looked yet, but I was advised to look into the records at Oklahoma Historical Society. Feel ree to write me Vancehawkins@sbcglobal.net. vh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Looking for information on the family of Amanda King Loving b. 3 Sept 1840; Louisana d. 6 Nov 1911, Loving, OK, buried Loving Cemetery, Loving, OK. Dawes IW #514; lived in Goodman, AR in 1902; married John Loving, in 1859 at Sugarloaf, AR; Tom Nolan present at their marriage. Earliest census record in 1850 shows her in the household of a Sandy and Sarah Stewart in Leland or Geland, Morehouse Parish in Louisana with brothers Wilson King and John Benjamin King and she is listed as mulatoo. In 1860 census of the Choctaw Nation Indian Territory she is in household of Robert Parnell with her brothers and also listed as mulatoo. In the 1900 census in the Choctaw Nation Indian Territory she is married and with her husband, John Loving and she has her father as white and mother as Choctaw and birth of both parents is unknown. I would love to find out who her parents where and talk with any persons who share my line. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I would like to correspond with any surviving relatives of Eleanor Graham Morgan of Floyd Co., Ky, who emigrated to Paris, Ill, then Oklahoma. and is buried in Paoli Cem. in OK 1906. My dad is 89 and my niece and I are trying to obtain updated list of names and pictures, if possible, for a booklet for my dad who is now 89. My dad, neice, and I descend from John Graham buried in Emma, Floyd Co., Ky. DR

Looking for a Ophelia (Orpie or Orpha) TAYLOR. She was born abt 1836 in MS and died bef 1896 in Bryan CO, OK. She married Neal McFARLAND in 1852 and I know of only one daughter that they had, but believe there were more children. Their daughter was named Nancy (Nannie) McFARLAND and born in 1852 possible in Ashley CO, AR. I know they moved from AR to Bryan CO, OK bef 1866 when their daughter married. I have been looking for this family for over 10 years. I just can't seem to find much information on them. Thanks for any help, Georgann Hunter whunter@omniglobal.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmaioriello Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2854.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What years did they live? Where did they live? There is a Nora Armstrong age 16 on a roll, and a William Armstrong on a different card, age 17. Was not able to fing any Erastrus Thomason or Clive Thomason or Nora Thomason. Also searched the surname Webster ad was not able to connect it with any of the names provided. If you give more detail, a search for info will be easier. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2836.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The only information I have found on Preston Pebworth on the Dawes Final Roll. That information is on Census Card # 3201: Roll # 9259 Pebworth, Dora E. 27 yr female 3/4 Choctaw by blood Roll # 9260 Pebworth, Elum N. 8 yr male 1/2 Choctaw by blood Roll # 9261 Pebworth, Lela M. 6 yr female 1/2 Choctaw by blood Roll # 9362 Pebworth, Etta 6 yr female 1/2 Choctaw by blood Roll # 9264 Pebworth, Preston 4 yr male 1/2 Choctaw by blood Roll # 9265 Pebworth, Thomas J. 2 yr male 1/2 Chocatw by blood You may locate more information if you get copies of the applications. I notice that no father/ husband is shown on the Dawes, which may mean he was deceased by the time of enrollment. Since the children had 1/2 Choctaw blood, and the mother was 3/4, it indicates that some degree of blood was inherited from the father. Perhaps in the application information you can learn the father's name. I have no way of seeking information on Prestons' wife, Vera,as I need a maiden name for her. I can give you some early history on the Pebworth name however which may or may not be of help. Henry Pebworth was a white man who lived among the Choctaws in the East, living near the Tombigbee River in Moshulatubbe's District in 1831 when a census of the Choctaw was taken. At that tme he is shown as having had seven persons in his household. His wife was a Choctaw named Nukaacha, and they are known to have had at least 6 children by 1831. Recorded are the names of children of one man named Pebworth ( who was also called Pidgeworth and Pokeworth): John ( was married 3 times, one wife named Mary, they had son named Joseph born in 1870) Joseph Bob Caroline Amy Matilda Mary Emily ( married Zack Davis. She died about 1888) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tammyhightower Surnames: WILSON BOND HIGHTOWER DUNLAP MORROW HARTNETT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1155.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe that these could be the same people Ida Morrow mother is Sarah Francis Wilson full blooded Choctaw #13896 husband James Madison Morrow these are my greatgrandparents there from Blue county THANKS TAMMY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paynengineering Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2853.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Of course, you are not going to get any of your personal results yourself, but, instead, your personal results will be sent to a very rich fellow, who, along with another Mormon, has set up this testing, for whatever reason the Mormons are so deeply interested in your genetics. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TheresaVann74 Surnames: Weaver Reed Reid Byrd Bird Rivers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2853/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If an one is interested in having a free dna testing done,yes I said free here is the place to go Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation at www.smgf.org Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am a descendant of Louis Durant and She Ni Yak via Syllan Durant Taylor. Write to me at badge327@yahoo.com Carl Phillips ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

I would be interested in corresponding with you. Syllan was my gg-greatmother. Carl Phillips badge327@yahoo.com -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] P.S. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marshe66 Surnames: Durant, Taylor, Couvey, Crowder and Arrington. Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/459.2.1.1.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi. Margaret Durant married Eli Crowder. Her father was Louis Durant and her mother was Itchooluna, not Shi Na Ya. Margaret's sister was Syllan Durant Taylor, and her brothers were Louis, Pierre and Charles. I am a descendent of this line through Syllan Durant Taylor. Her daughter Elizabeth Taylor was my grgrgrandmother who first married Joseph Couvey and latter Drury Arrington. Have more on this line if you are interested. Also have some information about their service in the War of 1812 and some information about Eli Crowder. Have seen Margaret's grave in Attala County, MS. Marshe Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

She Ni Yak was the wife of Louis Durant, the progenitor of the Oklahoma Durants, and my greatgreatgreatgrandmother. Carl Phillips -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] P.S. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sue_74561 Surnames: Durant,Crowder, Bench Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/459.2.1.1.2.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for writing to me. My husband is from Margaret's side. Margaret and Eli had a daughter Catherine who married Charles Bench,so Margaret would be his GGGgrandmother. I didn't know Margaret had a sister i found out about the brothers i have been going in the wrong direction with Shi Na yak. we appreciate any help you can give us. by the way who is Shi Na Yak? thanks again Sue Hood Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Have seen Margaret's grave in Attala County, MS. ^^^^^ Do you have a photo by chance? I'd love to see it too. Eli Crowder would be my husband's gggg grandfather. Carla

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paynengineering Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/459.2.1.1.2.2.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Speaking of the Crowder's, I have pictures of the Crowder's gravesites in the little cemetery on the hill in Crowder, Pittsburg, OK (what was once Crowder Town, Canadian Township, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory. If anyone is interested, e-mail me. All my folks are also buried in this little cemetery (Hendrix, Payne, Benson, Jennings) all either Choctaw or Creek. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sue_74561 Surnames: Durant,Crowder, Bench Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/459.2.1.1.2.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for writing to me. My husband is from Margaret's side. Margaret and Eli had a daughter Catherine who married Charles Bench,so Margaret would be his GGGgrandmother. I didn't know Margaret had a sister i found out about the brothers i have been going in the wrong direction with Shi Na yak. we appreciate any help you can give us. by the way who is Shi Na Yak? thanks again Sue Hood Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.