This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bko7425 Surnames: crabtree Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867.1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Elijah died in Lucasville,Ohio around 1970. Thanks so much, Kaye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kaye......do you know what state Elijah live din when he died? Or what state he was born in? I will see if I can locate something. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Why don't you just go to the Social Security Death Index, put in Elijah's name, the listings will show a year of birth, which will help you narrow your search, it will also show where he was living when he received his last Social Security payment, a date of death, as well as his Social Security number. Once you find this, there is a link next to his name where you can print out a form to order a copy of the application he gave to Social Security in order to get his card in the first place. Its the form everyone has to fill out in order to get a card, it will have his birth place, where he was living at the time he applied for a card, and also the names of his parents, and be in his own handwriting. This would be documentation you need and can use for other investigations as well. Depending on when he served as a U.S. Marshall, that information may also lead you to other facts about him and his life. Let me know, please. I will try to see if I can find out anything on Betha! Lute in the mean time. Bonnie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bko7425 Surnames: Crabtree Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bonnie, I spoke to my sister-in-law over the weekend. She said Elijah was a U.S. Marshall. He married a Bertha Lute. The only identification for Elijah's parents was his mother was a (Brannnen, Brannon, Branhan,Branham, or Brannam). As you can see the spelling she was unsure of. I am still working on getting Elijah's social security # Thanks Kaye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmaioriello Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2868.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am not sure which rolls you were actually looking at, because the Dawes Rolls closed long before your grandparents were born, and therefore they cannot be listed on the rolls. Their parents on the other hand may be, if they were born 1906 or earlier. Please list the Choctaw relative born in this time period, their dates of birth, and their parents' name. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mtnliving4 Surnames: Smith, Bagwell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2868/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If I am looking at this correctly, on the online Dawes Rolls that I saw (didn't see them all), I "might" have found my grandmother on there as a registered choctaw. Can someone take a look and let me know for sure? Her name: Etta Bernice Smith Bagwell DOB: 14 Oct 1926 Father: William Bartley Smith I believe she was born in Louisiana Mother: Minnie Wilson Smith I am also looking for info on her husband, my grandfather: His name: Marion Verdell Bagwell DOB: 18 April 1920 Father: Robert Marion Bagwell I believe he was born in Missouri but not sure about this one at all. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dsegelquist Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1349.12.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Shane here is your info I hope it will help you some. Jacob Daniel. Jacob Daniel wrote a letter near Jone's Bluff, Sumpter, county Alabama, Sept, 29, 1833, in it he stated he had been a citizen for twelve years and more and had served three years and five months as a regular soldier for the U. S. army. At the time he entered his name to be a citizen of the U. S. he had a wife and four small children, he had one more son his first born but didn't not enter his name at the time as he was not under his roof but at the Choctaw academy in Kentucky. He was asking for in getting his son on the list of names because of this over site. He also wanted to know if his brother-in-law, Antoio Parish's was on the list of names. Mushulatubbe District no.2-Mississippi Jacob Daniel had 16, acres cultivated out of 160, he had a family of 7, he had 4, children under 10, years. The locality of his farm was near the factory and has a half negro and half Indian wife. He had entered his name on July 5, 1831. Hogan Jones had no family he is listed as a family of one, he is a orphan boy, with no land, it's not stated where he was living but his name is on the list. John Jones Sr. had 20 acres out of 320 cultivated had a family of four, three males over sixteen years. He had three slaves and his farm was six miles from the factory and had good land. Robert Jones Sr. had no land had a family of two, one over male over sixteen years. Although he had no land he was provided for in the treaty. Samuel Jones Sr. had 40 acres out of 480 cultivated is shows no family, he had four slaves and the farm was two miles from the factory. He had died some time after the treaty the land is now occupied by his son an heir. Dennis Segelquist Military & Civilian Surname Searcher http://civilwarthosesurnames.blogspot.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The Edith Dupre library at University of Southwestern Louisiana at Lafayette (ULL) - 16,000 plus students, might be a good place to do some research on this. I understand they have a very good genealogy room. It is possible that you can contact them on line Wanda C -----Original Message----- From: choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Larry Payne Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:10 PM To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; choctaw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Indian Villages in La. There were a great number of Choctaw in Louisiana at one time, as there is today. Matter-of-fact, my son, who is graduating from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette this next semester, his little Cajun Fiance is part Choctaw. "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ViviJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/77 7.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Brenda, yes I would like to see the remainder of the information. My father always said his mother (Lucy Lewis Johnson) was Indian. (Choctaw); and her father's name was Charles Lewis of New Orleans. I would love to verify my Choctaw Heritage. Basically, that's all the info I have on my great grandfather on my dad's side. I am not sure if Lucy, and Charles were full blooded Choctaw, or part. So, any info you have to share would be great. I do also know that Lucy migrated to Rosedale, Mississippi. Also, anyone having info may contact me via email. Caution: in my email address there is an "_" which when the system highlights the entire email address it looks just like a simple space " " and that's not correct. Thanks. Brownsugar_19@comcast.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Having been born 20 miles south of Rosedale, MS. and now living one block from the Vermilion River, you can imagine how I perked up at familiar places but alas these are not my families. There are Indian Mounds about 20 - 25 miles south of Rosedale, Winterville, MS., but I do not have any history on them. Of course the areas you mentioned in LA. Are surrounded by Indian tribes which exists today. Many of the communities of Indians throughout the State of LA. Have established governments and have built casinos in their communities. As for history of the tribes, I am not familiar. The reason I respond is to say: If there is any chance that any of your Indian connections were of the Catholic faith, there is a 135 (?) volume series of books compiled by Father Hebert which document the history of the area where many of your tribes lived. I do not know if there is anything of value in these books, but it would certainly be worth someone checking it out Wanda C -----Original Message----- From: choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:00 PM To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Indian Villages in La. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ViviJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/77 7.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Brenda, yes I would like to see the remainder of the information. My father always said his mother (Lucy Lewis Johnson) was Indian. (Choctaw); and her father's name was Charles Lewis of New Orleans. I would love to verify my Choctaw Heritage. Basically, that's all the info I have on my great grandfather on my dad's side. I am not sure if Lucy, and Charles were full blooded Choctaw, or part. So, any info you have to share would be great. I do also know that Lucy migrated to Rosedale, Mississippi. Also, anyone having info may contact me via email. Caution: in my email address there is an "_" which when the system highlights the entire email address it looks just like a simple space " " and that's not correct. Thanks. Brownsugar_19@comcast.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The University of Southwestern Louisiana at Layafette is now the University of Louisiana at Layafette, with 22,000 students.........I know all this because I keep sending them money so my Son can continue his "higher education". "Higher Education", By-the-way, is pretty descriptive in more ways than one! Wanda Carlton <wjclac@cox.net> wrote: The Edith Dupre library at University of Southwestern Louisiana at Lafayette (ULL) - 16,000 plus students, might be a good place to do some research on this. I understand they have a very good genealogy room. It is possible that you can contact them on line Wanda C -----Original Message----- From: choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:choctaw-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Larry Payne Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:10 PM To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; choctaw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Indian Villages in La. There were a great number of Choctaw in Louisiana at one time, as there is today. Matter-of-fact, my son, who is graduating from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette this next semester, his little Cajun Fiance is part Choctaw. "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ViviJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/77 7.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Brenda, yes I would like to see the remainder of the information. My father always said his mother (Lucy Lewis Johnson) was Indian. (Choctaw); and her father's name was Charles Lewis of New Orleans. I would love to verify my Choctaw Heritage. Basically, that's all the info I have on my great grandfather on my dad's side. I am not sure if Lucy, and Charles were full blooded Choctaw, or part. So, any info you have to share would be great. I do also know that Lucy migrated to Rosedale, Mississippi. Also, anyone having info may contact me via email. Caution: in my email address there is an "_" which when the system highlights the entire email address it looks just like a simple space " " and that's not correct. Thanks. Brownsugar_19@comcast.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dshanejones Surnames: Jones Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1349.12/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Greetings -- I would appreciate any information on the individuals listed in No. 70 - 74, especially John Jones Sr. Thank you very much for your time. Thanks! - Shane Jones (St. Louis, MO). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ViviJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/777.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Brenda, yes I would like to see the remainder of the information. My father always said his mother (Lucy Lewis Johnson) was Indian. (Choctaw); and her father's name was Charles Lewis of New Orleans. I would love to verify my Choctaw Heritage. Basically, that's all the info I have on my great grandfather on my dad's side. I am not sure if Lucy, and Charles were full blooded Choctaw, or part. So, any info you have to share would be great. I do also know that Lucy migrated to Rosedale, Mississippi. Also, anyone having info may contact me via email. Caution: in my email address there is an "_" which when the system highlights the entire email address it looks just like a simple space " " and that's not correct. Thanks. Brownsugar_19@comcast.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bko7425 Surnames: Crabtree Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. I don't have the given names of Elijah's parents.I will work on the the social security number. My sister-in-law has the number, but she said she has missed placed it. Thanks I will be back with you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are a great many Crabtree's on the rolls........do you have the first names of either Elijah's mother or father? There is not an Elijah Crabtree enrolled, and no Jerry Williams. If I had a first name for the mother, and his father's name I may be able to find something for you. If you do not know that information i would suggest that you get a copy of Elijah's Social Security application since it will give the names of his parents. You can contact me direct if you wish: www.kwoneenee@yahoo.com Bonnie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Name: Elijah Crabtree City: Not Stated County: Scioto State: Ohio Birthplace: Ohio;United States of America Birth Date: 23 Aug 1892 Race: Caucasian (White) Roll: 1851090

Name: Jerry Williams SSN: 249-10-6006 Last Residence: 29440 Georgetown, Georgetown, South Carolina, United States of America Born: 10 May 1892 Died: Mar 1971 State (Year) SSN issued: South Carolina (Before 1951 ) ````````````` Name: Jerry Williams SSN: 288-09-5117 Last Residence: 45648 Lucasville, Scioto, Ohio, United States of America Born: 23 Aug 1892 Died: Mar 1970 State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951 ) There were two with the dates you gave.... carla

There were a great number of Choctaw in Louisiana at one time, as there is today. Matter-of-fact, my son, who is graduating from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette this next semester, his little Cajun Fiance is part Choctaw. "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ViviJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/777.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Brenda, yes I would like to see the remainder of the information. My father always said his mother (Lucy Lewis Johnson) was Indian. (Choctaw); and her father's name was Charles Lewis of New Orleans. I would love to verify my Choctaw Heritage. Basically, that's all the info I have on my great grandfather on my dad's side. I am not sure if Lucy, and Charles were full blooded Choctaw, or part. So, any info you have to share would be great. I do also know that Lucy migrated to Rosedale, Mississippi. Also, anyone having info may contact me via email. Caution: in my email address there is an "_" which when the system highlights the entire email address it looks just like a simple space " " and that's not correct. Thanks. Brownsugar_19@comcast.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bko7425 Surnames: Crabtree Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to help my sister- in- law find out about her Choctaw heritage. My sister in law's Grandfather was Elijah Crabtree born in 1892. He changed his name to Jerry Williams. His Mother was a Delcuff. He died in 1970 or 72. Either his mother or father was a full blooded Choctaw. Can anyone help us? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There are several Crabtree's on Dawes, but no Delcuff. No Elijah. But check here if you know other names to go by http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php Carla

How do you know that his "original" name was Elijah Crabtree? When did he change his name to Jerry Williams and why? And, upon what basis do you know that either one or the other was "full blood" Choctaw? Where was he (or, seeing as how we aren't really sure) or she was born? And when? Where did he/she die? Why did they die? Where were they interred? Mo info, ya know? "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bko7425 Surnames: Crabtree Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to help my sister- in- law find out about her Choctaw heritage. My sister in law's Grandfather was Elijah Crabtree born in 1892. He changed his name to Jerry Williams. His Mother was a Delcuff. He died in 1970 or 72. Either his mother or father was a full blooded Choctaw. Can anyone help us? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message