information that would be more helpful would be the family of E Crabtree. there are no full blood Choctaws by the name of Crabtree on the index for Dawes that I see. Carla

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChoctawWarrior Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/990.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There Is A Mowa Choctaw Indian Reservation In Mt.Vernon Alabama. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoeAnneJ Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1285.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No, I've not found any inkling where the Native American blood could be - but I'm fairly confident it can't be from the Shoptaugh side Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CyndiJohnston1 Surnames: CHIEF LIGHTFOOT, DUNGEON, PENTON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2869/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on: Lightfoot, Choctaw Indian Chief Lightfoot, Choctaw Indian Chief, Pearl River Co MS. Daughter: Mary ( Polly ) Dungeon 1809 -1883 who married John Penton.1806-1883 Mary Dungeon is my GGGGG grandmother Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CyndiJohnston1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/1160.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i have been looking for information on Chief Lightfoot, have you found out any information on him Lightfoot, Choctaw Indian Chief, Pearl River Co MS. Daughter: Mary ( Polly ) Dungeon 1809 -1883 who married John Penton.1806-1883 Mary Dungeon is my GGGGG grandmother Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fleetwood411 Surnames: Holden Smith Nichols Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/88.351.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Are there any more Smith marriages. I am looking for a Smith male that married a Choctaw woman. They had a daughter named Sarah Smith and she married a Nichols. We have a Hind Co,MS family connection too. My email is fleetwood3@netzero.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fleetwood411 Surnames: Holden, Nichols, Smith Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/550.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I might be able to help. We were friends with a Chester Chapman in MS. I am looking for a Sarah Smith (My 5th great). I suspect she was 1/2 Choctaw. I am also looking for a Smith male that had some union with a full blooded Choctaw woman. We have Rankin in common and the names Susan and Eliza. My email is fleetwood3@netzero.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Tamra_Long Surnames: Spain, Folsom, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/869.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wondering if you know about Mary McKnight? I know that her line comes through Nathaniel Folsom. She married Thomas D. Spain 1840 and had 8 children Dawes Enrollment Cards: Mary M Spain Parent Female card number 119, 162, 144, 90 Said was inducted in the Choctaw nation in 1832 - Proved her parentage. Moved to Texas between 1845 and 1849. She died in Texas burried next to her husband. Oct 30, 1877 Inacted that Mary M spain being a regular lival decendent of the choctaw nation. was the great granddaughter of AIICHIHONA (full blooded) and Nathaniel Folson Nathaniel Folson was also married to AIAHNEIEHOHYOH The women were sisters and the neices of chief Mingo Puscus This is the information I have. Have you heard of this woman? Thanks, Theresa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: clarkmar Surnames: Folsom - Mitchell - Spain Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/869.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: To those who may think their "Sophia" might be the same one I have, Sophia was born 1802. Her mother died either 1802 or 1803. Evidently, Samuel Mitchel left his two daughters with their grandparents, Nathaniel Folsom and his two wives, and moved to become Indian Agent for the Chickasaws. At least two of the three marriages of Sophia were at the homes of different Mitchell uncles. I have no idea what her Indian name might have been as the first I found on her was her marriages and she went by the name of Sophia Mitchell. When I first started researching Alzira and Sophia, there were several people that told me their surname was Folsom which I later found was incorrect. Alzira's line was much easier to research than Sophia's. It seems Sophia left her children from her marriage to Hancock with him. This is the line where the name Spain married into. Ainechihoya was one of the wives of Nathaniel and I doubt if she had two names or that a daughter would have the same Indian name as her mother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kitkat61562 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/869.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you think or Ai Ne Chi Hoyo could be one in the same? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: clarkmar Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/869.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have much of the information listed in the message by Bonnie and have spoken with Don Martini ("Who Was Who Among the Southern Indians")on a few occasions. I believe Don Martini did a marvelous job, but much information has been found since he and the others did their books. When I found some things, I have even called and discussed it with Don Martini and others that I consider experts in their own right. Sophia was a very common name in that day and time. Earlier, someone asked if a Mitchell was involved. One Molly Folsom did marry Samuel Mitchell. I have proof of the names of the children of Molly Folsom and Samuel Mitchell in both a treaty where they were named and when Samuel had the daughters, Sophia and Alzira, "legitimatized" in MS according to the "white man's law". I was just answering the question as to where a Mitchell tied into the Folsom family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bonnie_Rapert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/869.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Perhaps this bit of information will be of help. EBENEZER FOLSOM was a Choctaw trader, born in 1765 in North Carolina to Israel Folsom, a white man. He and Nathaniel Folsom were brothers. He was appointed as a Spanish Interperterrs to the Choctaw in 1791. He moved to Arkansas in 1804. He was married to Sarah White Lewis, the widow of Samuel Lewis, who had died on the Cumberland. In 1788, Sarah lived near John Turnbull on the Tombigbee. Ebenezer was the father of : 1 Michael Nathaniel Folsom 2 William Folsom 3 Sophia Folsom, who married John Pitchlynn NATHANIEL FOLSOM, was a Choctaw trader, born in Rowan County, North Carolina on May 17, 1756. The son of Israel Folsom,a white man, and a native of Massachusetts. Nathaiel began trading among the Choctaws apparantly in the 1780's . He married two Chotcaw girls, both were nieces of Mingo Puscus. Nathaniel died at Mountain Fork, I. T. October 9, 1833. One wife, Iahnecha, gave him children named : 1 Nathaniel Folsom (Jr.) 2 Molly Folsom 3 George Folsom 4 Samuel Folsom 5 John Folsom 6 Robert Folsom (married to Susa ) 7 William Folsom The other wife, Ainechihoye, of Nathaniel gave him children named : 8 David Folsom, born 1791, married to Roda Nail. 9 Rebecca Folsom 10 Rhoda Folsom 11 (Rev.) Israel Folsom, born 1802 , married Louvica Nail (called Louisa). 12 Adam Folsom 13 Issac Folsom 14 Jeremiah Folsom, born 1796 , called Capt. Jeremiah Folsom. Married to Mary. 15 McKee Folsom 16 Edmond Folsom 17 Emily Folsom 18 Amziah Folsom 19 Lucretia Folsom 20 Elizabeth Folsom 21 Solomon Folsom 22 Delilah Folsom 23 Shame Folsom 24 Polly Folsom. Sources of information: 1 "Alabama's Forgotten Settlers", by Jack Holmes, page 95 2 " The Natchez Court Records, 1767 - 1805", by May McBee, pages 136, 377, 509 3 "Who Was Who Among the Southern Indians 1698 -1907", by Don Martini, page 238, 244, 245 4 "History of Bryan County, Oklahoma" pages 277 - 278 5 " History of the Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Natchez Indians", by Horatio Cushman, pages 327 - 328 (Cushman stated that Sophia was the only daughter of Ebenezer Folsom.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: clarkmar Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/869.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What I have is that Mary Melinda Hancock married "a" Spain. She was d/o Jubal Hancock and Sophia Mitchel. Sophia was d/o Samuel Mitchell and his first wife, Molly Folsom. Molly (Ar-chi-ho-yo) was d/o of Nathaniel Folsom and probably I-Ah-Ne-Cha. To my knowledge, there is no proof as to which wife of Nathaniel Folsom all the children belonged. I may have the Indian names mispelled, but that is what I have. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kitkat61562 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/869.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think we may have the same Folsom family. I have a Mary McKnight Spain who was born in the Old Choctaw Nation and was the great granddaughter to an Aiichihona and Nathaniel Folsom Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

"but have been unable to find my ggrandmother who is said to be an indian medicine woman and was on her way to sign up for the dawes Roll and took sick and died" Maxine, look at your question, again. You do know that if they were NOT on the Dawes Rolls.........then they are NOT Indian. I know, it's silly, but it's the LAW, so, if she was ON the way to sign up for the Dawes Roll and she took sick and died before she got there, then she just isn't Indian. I know how you feel. My GGrandmother refused to sign........seems her son was "killed by white people" just the year before. So, instead of going to "sign up", she had heard that the Dawes Commission guys were coming around the homes, asking if anybody hadn't signed up yet. Thank God they didn't show up at her house. I still have the old double-barreled 12 ga. that she had by the front door.....................................! She did NOT like white people, until the day she died. Matter-of-fact, neither did my Grandfather. Now that I think about it, neither did my Father................and now that I think about it.....I ain't too crazy about 'em, either.......... dustyc@microgear.net wrote: If your ancestor died prior to 1906 they will not be listed on the Final Dawes Roll. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] CHOCTAW Digest, Vol 2, Issue 99 > Could someone please give me some advice I found my ggrandmothers brother in > the Choctow Roll on pg 56 roll 11623 Monds Richard Choctow by blood with > wife Mindy and son Farris and daughter Josie Lee but have been unable to find > my ggrandmother who is said to be an indian medicine woman and was on her way > to sign up for the dawes Roll and took sick and died her name was Mary Jane > Monds Tully having married Joun Emerson Tully., Richards father Job Monds and > mother Mildred Ridge but have been unable to find any of his brothers or > sisters on the roll. > Any help would be greatly appreciated > > Thank You > Maxine > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If your ancestor died prior to 1906 they will not be listed on the Final Dawes Roll. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: <P0519@aol.com> To: <choctaw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] CHOCTAW Digest, Vol 2, Issue 99 > Could someone please give me some advice I found my ggrandmothers brother in > the Choctow Roll on pg 56 roll 11623 Monds Richard Choctow by blood with > wife Mindy and son Farris and daughter Josie Lee but have been unable to find > my ggrandmother who is said to be an indian medicine woman and was on her way > to sign up for the dawes Roll and took sick and died her name was Mary Jane > Monds Tully having married Joun Emerson Tully., Richards father Job Monds and > mother Mildred Ridge but have been unable to find any of his brothers or > sisters on the roll. > Any help would be greatly appreciated > > Thank You > Maxine > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: twilaseabean Surnames: Evans Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/209.208.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Susan, I am also looking for my lost history. I am looking for my great-grandmother, Hettie Louvice Evans, b. 1848 on the Reservation in MS. We have two different names for her father--either Josiah or Dan (I'm thinking maybe both). We only have her mother's name as Ollie. Maybe, your William and my Hettie were brother and sister? There is a very interesting story about Josiah/Dan and Ollie, oral history, and from a law book. It was the presumption of death law. That's about all we can find on them. He left MS, went to Ark, started new life. Died in MS, buried there somewhere! Would love to trade info. We've been searching for them over 30 yrs! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Could someone please give me some advice I found my ggrandmothers brother in the Choctow Roll on pg 56 roll 11623 Monds Richard Choctow by blood with wife Mindy and son Farris and daughter Josie Lee but have been unable to find my ggrandmother who is said to be an indian medicine woman and was on her way to sign up for the dawes Roll and took sick and died her name was Mary Jane Monds Tully having married Joun Emerson Tully., Richards father Job Monds and mother Mildred Ridge but have been unable to find any of his brothers or sisters on the roll. Any help would be greatly appreciated Thank You Maxine ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bko7425 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867.1.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bonnie, I went to the social security death index. Found Jerry Williams, as Elijah went by Jerry Williams. SSN: 288-09-5117 Last Residence: 45648 Lucasville, Scioto, Ohio, United States of America Born: 23 Aug 1892 Died: Mar 1970 State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951 ) I went to order the SS card . Every time I put the date in 03/22/1970 the form told me to enter the Death date in the correct Format. I can't get it to continue. I was so glad to find his S.S. and deathdate, but it is a no go so far.I will try to get asistance from Ancestry.com. Thanks for your help, Kaye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bko7425 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.choctaw.choctawnat/2867.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It is Bertha Lute. Thanks again, Kaye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.