Hi to all, I have been asked how McCurtain County Census are listed. At the F.H.C. the girl could only pull up the Choctaw Indian Reservation. What was she doing wrong? We need a 1900 to 1910 Census for McCurtain County. Is there a special way for the census to be pulled up on the Computer. And, Jacque in Idaho we really need your help also because of your experience with ancestors in McCurtain Count! Hey we want anybody's experiences that will get us what we need. This time we after the white folks!!! That's odd for me! But, I am after the Stones of McCurtain County Oklahoma and Polk County Arkansas.Should have we been looking for Indian Territory? Thanks Ellen and Frankie 1st Cousins researching the Stone Family together. Us2Scotts@worldnet.att.net Sto4us@aol.com

The LDS has the 1900 Soundex on Microfilm..I would order the microfilm for the Surname Stone and it will give you a lot of information and also exactly where they are located in McCurtain County...The soundex will give you the head of household, birthplace, age year of birth check it out..let me know if I can help..LBCane@aol.com

Exactly what are your looking for in the McCurtain County, Census? LBCane@aol.com let me know..I might be able to help...

For 1900 you would need to check the 1900 Choctaw Nation federal census, since that was before statehood. 1910-1920 and coming up in a few months, 1930, check the counties needed. Haven't seen the census on computer at FHC, but you can order the microfilm rolls. Ethel Taylor Bandony1@cs.com &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& The mistakes we make in life are not as important as the lessons we draw from them CRISP-L, PRINCE-L, OKKIOWA-L Searching: ASHLEY/CRISP/PRINCE/CARTER/CHERRY/IVY/THETFORD/WARRICK/TENNELL/WATERS http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4231/ Kiowa Co. OK, Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation, Cheyenne-Arapaho Reservation, Civil War In Indian Territory http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1263/

Lukfata was in the central part of McCurtain Co. at the very bottom about one mile from Red River. Carl Stanley Scott wrote: > Hi List, > > I am looking for Lukfata, McCurtain Co, Ok. Could someone pinpoint where this little town is or went. My Great Grandmother Julie Milligan died there. > > Thanks many times in advance. > Ellen > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! -- Carl in Hangtown http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/4723/HOMEPAGE.HTM

I am new to this, I am looking for anybody that new a Rainey in Missouri. This search is new. My Aunt started it a few years ago, with little success. Thanks David

Please pinpoint where this little town was or is. My Greatgrandmother Julie Milligan Stone died in Lukfata, McCurtain, Co. I can not find it with my Map n Go. Thank many times Ellen Us2Scotts@worldnet.att.net

Hi List, I am looking for Lukfata, McCurtain Co, Ok. Could someone pinpoint where this little town is or went. My Great Grandmother Julie Milligan died there. Thanks many times in advance. Ellen

Hello Everyone, Pardon the bandwidth, but I am trying to help this lady. She is "tracking down all references to Indians to help find" her great-grandmother, and I thought you kind folk just might be able to help her. She is not currently on our lists, so please make sure if you reply to *her*, use *her* email address, or reply to me and I will forward your responses to her. I appreciate your patience and any help you can provide. The information she gives is a bit sketchy, so 'helpful suggestions' may be all you can provide. Thanks! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kimball, Zhanna G <Zhanna.Kimball@usa.xerox.com> >To: Kevin D Clapp <mac-tire@nts-online.net> >Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:52 AM >Subject: Looking for my great-grandmother > > Dear Kevin: > Do you have any info on a JESSIE LOCKE, who was my ggrandmother... > She was part Indian (don't know anything more about that) and was born in PA > around 1850-1860. When she was 16, she married Cassius Seymour NORRIS in PA > and moved west to Kansas. She died of asmatha at age 41 (around 1900) and > had to put my grandfather, Luther Roy Norris in the Denver orphanage. > I am tracking down all references to Indians to help find her. > Anything info you could provide would be very helpful. > Thanks, > Zhanna Kimball Zhanna.Kimball@usa.xerox.com I searched my entire database, and all of my notes, and found only one that was even close, but I am sorry to say that the Jessie I found was male and born in 1902 in Indian Territory. I also looked for any Norris names, but found none. I am sending a copy of this reply along to several other lists I am in, in hopes that someone there may be able to provide you with info. As far as "tracking down all references to Indians to help find her" - I am on several lists that help people search for Indian ancestors, and since I am sending a copy of this to those lists, it may be that someone might either recognize the names you mention, or may be able to offer additional suggestions, beyond what I have, to help you . A couple of other suggestions, you might try looking for a list concerned with the NORRIS surname, and also lists for the area in PA and KS here on rootsweb, if you can narrow down the associated counties in each state, or even just the general area, for example: Southeast PA (SE-PA-L ?) or Northwest KS (NW-KS-L ?). Also, although you do not mention what tribe she may have belonged in, there ARE various rolls of Indian Tribes that were created, such as the "Dawes", "Miller", and others. You may be able to locate her, whether she was of Indian blood, or married into an Indian tribe, by searching among the various rolls. You also mentioned that your ggrandmother placed your grandfather in the Denver Orphanage. I am assuming that is Denver, as in Colorado? You said that she moved west from PA to KS, but didn't mention a link, other than the Orphanage, to CO. You might try searching records in the CO area, and even trying to search for info with the Orphanage (note: it can be very frustrating to try to get usable info from Orphanages/Adoption agencies, depending on the Privacy laws of the State they are located in). You might also check with the LDS (Latter Day Saints - Mormon) Family Centers - it can be very surprising to find out how much info that they have collected from all the different sources for genealogy! I have located several 'missing links' in my family history through their records. One last suggestion, when you ask on lists for help, it is best to provide as MUCH information as you possibly have *available* if you have it, such as: "I am looking for (full name, including maiden name if a female), who was born in (date - day/month/year) in (location - city, county, state). His/her parents were (father's name and mother's name including maiden name, if available). He/she married (spouse's name) in (date) in (location). They moved to (location) in (date). Children include: (names) born in (dates) in (locations). Other information I have includes (whatever other hints, clues, facts you may have)." The reason for this is, although someone might not have any info on the PERSON, they MAY say, "Wow, I don't know who this person is, but I have a cousin that might be related to the spouse (or an uncle that was born in the same town that year, or whatever)." I have had a few people contact me with information that has really helped me, for some of the strangest connections to the info I have provided - nicknames, places, events, etc. You never know what clue might trigger a response! A friend of mine once got a reply from the son of a neighbor of his grandparents, who recognized the name of the family pet of her grandparents, although he had forgotten her grandparent's names! You never know.... Keep in touch, as I have several URL addresses for various locations that you may find useful. Good luck in your search! Kevin Clapp mac-tire@nts-online.net

Ellen, Since Broken Bow is in McCurtain County, have you checked the McCurtain web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmccurt/mccurt.htm and they also have a mailing list. To subscribe send a message to OKMCCURT-L-request@rootsweb.com and put the one word subscribe in the body of the message and nothing else. I'm sure someone on there would be able to help you. Jacque hopkinsj@ida.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Stanley Scott <Us2Scotts@worldnet.att.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 2:20 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Frank M. Stone > To the Lists: > > I need a look up for area around Broken Bow Ok. My Great Grandfather Frank M. Stone was said to have died in that area. That would be in the 1900's. This was after the death of his wife Julie Milligan Stone. I do not know if he had a second family or not. > > Please need some help with the cemetaries in the area. Are they on line? If not please give me some pointer about how to find out about the Stone's in Broken Bow. > > Thanks Ellen > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

I am reading a book on the five civilized tribes (by grant foreman) that talks about Choctaws raising pulse. does anyone know what this is? check out new Impson surname board at http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/i/m/IMPSON/ Rusty Lang, site administrator

To the Lists: I need a look up for area around Broken Bow Ok. My Great Grandfather Frank M. Stone was said to have died in that area. That would be in the 1900's. This was after the death of his wife Julie Milligan Stone. I do not know if he had a second family or not. Please need some help with the cemetaries in the area. Are they on line? If not please give me some pointer about how to find out about the Stone's in Broken Bow. Thanks Ellen

If this is what you are looking for Indices of Choctaw and Chickasaw Confederate Soldiers Transcribed by Monty Olsen can be found at: Bryan County Heritage Ass'n. P.O. Box 153 Calera, OK 74730 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bandony1@cs.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 3:20 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Choctaw-Chickasaw Regiment > A while back, I heard of a book that listed the roster of the > Choctaw-Chickasaw Regiment during the Civil War in Indian Territory. Now I > can't find the note about it. It seems it was at a genealogical society, ot > something of that sort and available for purchase. Does anyone have any idea > where I might be able to locate it? > > Happy Holidays > > Ethel Taylor > > The mistakes we make in life are not as important as the lessons we draw from > them > CRISP-L, PRINCE-L, OKKIOWA-L > Searching: > ASHLEY/CRISP/PRINCE/CARTER/CHERRY/IVY/THETFORD/WARRICK/TENNELL/WATERS > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4231/ > Kiowa Co. OK, Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation, Cheyenne-Arapaho > Reservation, Civil War In Indian Territory > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1263/ > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > >

In a message dated 12/7/1999 1:33:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, wjones@texhoma.net writes: << ndices of Choctaw and Chickasaw Confederate Soldiers Transcribed by Monty Olsen >> Yep! That is what I was needing! Thanks very much! Happy Holidays. Ethel Taylor Bandony1@cs.com &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& The mistakes we make in life are not as important as the lessons we draw from them CRISP-L, PRINCE-L, OKKIOWA-L Searching: ASHLEY/CRISP/PRINCE/CARTER/CHERRY/IVY/THETFORD/WARRICK/TENNELL/WATERS http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4231/ Kiowa Co. OK, Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation, Cheyenne-Arapaho Reservation, Civil War In Indian Territory http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1263/

A while back, I heard of a book that listed the roster of the Choctaw-Chickasaw Regiment during the Civil War in Indian Territory. Now I can't find the note about it. It seems it was at a genealogical society, ot something of that sort and available for purchase. Does anyone have any idea where I might be able to locate it? Happy Holidays Ethel Taylor The mistakes we make in life are not as important as the lessons we draw from them CRISP-L, PRINCE-L, OKKIOWA-L Searching: ASHLEY/CRISP/PRINCE/CARTER/CHERRY/IVY/THETFORD/WARRICK/TENNELL/WATERS http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4231/ Kiowa Co. OK, Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation, Cheyenne-Arapaho Reservation, Civil War In Indian Territory http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1263/

Does anyone know how the motto of Oklahoma "Labor Conquers All" would be expressed in Choctaw? Thanks.

Colleen, I know a Debra Soper in Wilmington, DE. I only have her address and phone number. Don't know if she is on the internet... unlikely. But if you want this info you can email me privately at mjsapp1946@msn.com Maggie Sapp IBO#2007296 www.quixtar.com *********** ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gemcolleen@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 3:12 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] re Gladden, Warren, Halford, McQueen, Jones, Ferguson, Pillars > I am still tracking down my Soper Folk, and have a bit more information. I > just received a copy of my grandmother in law's marriage certificate along > with a permission slip for an underage marriage. > > The marriage was between Martha Frances Warren (age 16) and A. R. Gladden > (age 25) on May 20, 1917. Her mother signed it Winnie McQueen. Winnie's > first marriage was to Lee Warren. Don't know her husband Mr. McQueen's first > name. > However the marriage was witnessed by: J. W. Jones and A. H. Ferguson. The > certificate is signed by Elder M. A. Pillars, preacher officiating. If anyone > recognizes these names - witness and preacher included contact me at > gemcolleen@aol.com > > I would like to get hold of some information from the 1920 Choctaw County, OK > census, however for some reason or another these folk don't seem to show up > on censuses. > > I am posting this info to several lists so if you feel you are experiencing > dejavu over and over again don't worry. > > Also I want to thank all of the folks who have been helping me in my > searches. I have never seen nor heard of such a response. I want to write > a letter to everyone but I thought in a way I would write to let everyone > know what it has made me aware of and that is we are all kin. If we keep > going back and doubling surnames you realize you get to that absurd level > where you have more ggg......ggggg grandparents than there were people alive > at the time. I now realize I have such a mish mash of genes that all I can > do is refer to my self as of the human race. Good Hunting! > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ >

Looking for information on Frank Jones who was born between 1865 -1871 Indian Territory. The story is that he was killed when run off a bridge around Nov. 1943. This was believe to have happened somewhere in Atoka county. In 1920 Frank was living in Bentley Twp. Atoka County, Oklahoma. Frank was said to have been married first to Sucky Jones and 2nd to Lou E. "Unknown" Frank had a daughter named Mulsey who married Dan Danley and at one time lived in Merced, Merced Co., California. Frank was Choctaw Indian. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Tammy Dice Jones wjones@texhoma.net THE JONES FAMILY OF THE CHOCTAW NATION, INDIAN TERRITORY http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~treetop/jones.html

Couls someone please tell me if the given names Sudy and Ludy are Indian names and if so are they Choctaw? Thank you Jenny

Thank you to all that sent me info and suggestion for the young man in Austin, to locate arrows for his cub scout pack awards. I have passed the info on to him that you were kind enough to send. Thank you for your help. Ethel Taylor The mistakes we make in life are not as important as the lessons we draw from them CRISP-L, PRINCE-L, OKKIOWA-L Searching: ASHLEY/CRISP/PRINCE/CARTER/CHERRY/IVY/THETFORD/WARRICK/TENNELL/WATERS http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4231/ Kiowa Co. OK, Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation, Cheyenne-Arapaho Reservation, Civil War In Indian Territory http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1263/