In reference to the Impson web site, my G Grandfather, Levi Bentin Tippy appeared in the 1850 census in Southern Illinois with Raney Tippy, born in 'Georgia' as the mother and no father listed. The census also shows two sisters, Mary A. and Letha. Mary , b. 3-5-1827, married Simeon Smith, b. 4-2-1816, Cherokee County, Georgia. Letha, b. abt. 1831 ? My G Grand father, Mary "Putman" Smith, Simeon and Levi's daughter Margaret are berried in Walnut Grove Cemetery in Mcminn County Tennessee. My question, "Is it possible that my grandfather and his family, walked the Trail of Tears as a child and stayed in Southern Illinois?" I know this is probably silly, however the migration route came within a mile of my home, Down what is now R. 148 in Southern Illinois. There is also a reference to Mary "Putman" Smith. Would this be an original maiden name? As you can see, I have many question and very few answers. Any help would be greatly appreciated. http://community.webtv.net/JSTIPPY/TheTippyPage

Hi Kelli, I have the 1860 Federal Census for the territories west of Arkansas. Will look for you after the Thunderstorm goes by. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelli Staples <kmstapl@hotmail.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:59 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] 1860 Census of Gains Co. > Does anyone have access to either of these censuses? If so, would be able to do a look-up for me? Here is the information. > > Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info Record Type Database ID# > 1860 HOLLOWAY WILLIAM Choctawnation OK 017 Gains District Federal Population Schedule OK 1860 Federal Census Index OK4491941 > 1860 HOLLOWAY WILLIAM Gains County OK 1213 Choctaw Nation Federal Population Schedule OK 1860 Federal Census Index OK4481998 > > > > Thank you, > > Kelli in AR > kmstapl@hotmail.com > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm >

Does anyone have access to either of these censuses? If so, would be able to do a look-up for me? Here is the information. Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info Record Type Database ID# 1860 HOLLOWAY WILLIAM Choctawnation OK 017 Gains District Federal Population Schedule OK 1860 Federal Census Index OK4491941 1860 HOLLOWAY WILLIAM Gains County OK 1213 Choctaw Nation Federal Population Schedule OK 1860 Federal Census Index OK4481998 Thank you, Kelli in AR kmstapl@hotmail.com

--part1_9f.1f2c98b.25dde473_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rusty Lang Impson Mailing List administrator Impson Surname Board administrator Visit my website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/index.htm --part1_9f.1f2c98b.25dde473_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <owner-pml+rlang90547=aol.com@pml.rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:15:43 -0500 Received: from pml.rootsweb.com (pml.rootsweb.com [206.169.84.44]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:15:32 -0500 Received: (from pml@localhost) by pml.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23372; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:15:29 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:15:29 -0800 Message-Id: <200002172015.MAA23372@pml.rootsweb.com> To: rlang90547@aol.com From: JSTIPPY@webtv.net (James Tippy) Precedence: junk Subject: PML Search Result matching Impson X-Loop: pmlbounce@rootsweb.com ============================================================ A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ============================================================ Source: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Check out impson web site In reference to the Impson web site, my G Grandfather, Levi Bentin Tippy appeared in the 1850 census in Southern Illinois with Raney Tippy, born in 'Georgia' as the mother and no father listed. The census also shows two sisters, Mary A. and Letha. Mary , b. 3-5-1827, married Simeon Smith, b. 4-2-1816, Cherokee County, Georgia. Letha, b. abt. 1831 ? My G Grand father, Mary "Putman" Smith, Simeon and Levi's daughter Margaret are berried in Walnut Grove Cemetery in Mcminn County Tennessee. My question, "Is it possible that my grandfather and his family, walked the Trail of Tears as a child and stayed in Southern Illinois?" I know this is probably silly, however the migration route came within a mile of my home, Down what is now R. 148 in Southern Illinois. There is also a reference to Mary "Putman" Smith. Would this be an original maiden name? As you can see, I have many question and very few answers. Any help would be greatly appreciated. http://community.webtv.net/JSTIPPY/TheTippyPage --part1_9f.1f2c98b.25dde473_boundary--

Perhaps there is a connection. The only thing I have about George Christy is just his name. Thanks for your response. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: CMEHOWARD@aol.com <CMEHOWARD@aol.com> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Christys--Bohanons--Hudsons >Dear Sharon, > >My GGrandmother was a Christy, sometimes spelled Christie. She was Choctaw, >daughter of Michael and Agnes Christy. Any connection? > >maxine > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

She is a great gal! And a cousin of mine!! She pretty much knows what I do about the Christys--not a whole lot. Thank you, though. I appreciate your having taken the time to respond. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: LBCane@aol.com <LBCane@aol.com> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Christys--Bohanons--Hudsons >Contact this lady...she has an extensive amount of info...on the Bohanons and >Springs maybe she has something on the Christy family....here is her e-mail >address.....jamialane@aol.com > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma > >

Contact this lady...she has an extensive amount of info...on the Bohanons and Springs maybe she has something on the Christy family....here is her e-mail address.....jamialane@aol.com

Dear Sharon, My GGrandmother was a Christy, sometimes spelled Christie. She was Choctaw, daughter of Michael and Agnes Christy. Any connection? maxine

Hello List Members: Jacque Thanks for the informational pages and websites I will check them out. I notice there is no information listed on the Atoka County Link on the list of county's. Does anybody on the list have any information on Choctaws in that area? That is where my ancestry line of the surname Gable family were born and raised, around Lehigh Oklahoma which I believe to be in Atoka county. My dad was born there in Lehigh OK in 1910, Does anyone know if there would be a record of his birth if he was born at home by a mid-wife at the Atoka county Registrar. I do still have his death certificate which list his birth place as Lehigh Oklahoma his name was Tony Gable, he did not have a roll number, but I was told by him that he had some brothers and sisters in Atoka county who had roll numbers I assume because he said they had received the 40 acre and a mule before Oklahoma became a State. And he said they had stop giving the Choctaw Freedmen the 40 acres and a mule when he was born in 1910 because that was the year Oklahoma became a state. On his death certificate his mom's name is listed as Ginny C. Gable Ginny could be short for Virginia. And it also could possibly have been spelled Genny instead of Ginny not really sure. His dad's name was Martin Gable as listed on his death certificate, From what I remember him telling me he had brothers and sisters who received the 40 acres and a mule by the names of Ida Gable, Ollie Gable, Johnny or John Gable, Alman or Albert Gable we had a uncle who use to come see us that we called Uncle Alman, but I now believe his first name to have been Albert. There was one more dad mentioned but I can't remember the name, I'll have to find my little notebook I remember writing the names down but will have to find my little notebook. If anybone has any suggestions on how I may use my dad's death certificate to do some research of the records on file in Atoka County are Lehigh OK or the Beaureau of vital statistics please let me know. Peace! Slimey, Otis Gable

Hello Choctaws, I hope there are those among you who can assist me in my search. My great great grandfather was Joshua Bohanon ( born 1819 in Mississippi) one of the sons of William Bohanon, Sr., and a full-blood Choctaw woman. Joshua married four times in the course of his long life; his fourth and final wife was Louisa Christy, the daughter of George Christy and Emily Bohanon. Joshua and Louisa were the parents of four children: Frances, Jacob, Silas, and Elizabeth. Frances married Washington Hudson, and their oldest son was Peter Wayland Hudson, my wonderful grandfather. After all that comes the question. Can anyone supply any information concerning the George Christy family? All we know of him is just his name and the fact of his marriage to Emily Bohanon. I live in Tahlequah, Oklahoma, now, and Christy is also a Cherokee name. I don't know that I have met a Choctaw Christy--something that I hope to remedy. Of course, I will be more than happy to contribute information which I have concerning the above three families. Sharon Olive DeLoache deloache@intellex.com Tahlequah, Oklahoma

For some more, hopefully informational, Choctaw information, please check out the web site by clicking on the link below my email address. Jacque Hopkins Wolski hopkinsj@ida.net Pushmataha County Coordinator web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/PushCo.html My personal family web site at: http://www.maxpages.com/mygenroots 'Last Will and Testament: Being of sound mind, I spent all my money.' Listowner of OKPUSHMA-L, CHOCTAW-L, CHATHAM-L, HOLLEY-L and DEMOSS-L mailing lists. Manager of the GENCONNECT boards for the lists above. Proud Rootsweb sponsor.

"Andre P. Cramblit" wrote: > United States Census 2000 > Information For American Indians > > This April the 2000 Census will occur and it is vital that every American > Indian family participates so an accurate count can provide increased > funding for many crucial programs. By correctly identifying your Tribal > membership on the census form you are helping to properly fund the many programs that assist you and your family. These programs include > health care, employment training services, childcare, emergency services and educational support. > > The 1990 census undercounted a vast number of Native Americans. In one > instance the American Indian population of Siskiyou County was listed as > having 33 members of the Karuk Tribe when, according to a Tribally > conducted Census, there are in fact nearly 1000 Karuk people who reside > there. > > Under counting of the American Indian populace in the last Census created a > variety of serious issues. These problems include; less funds for health > care, reduced employment training services, limited access to childcare, > diminished emergency services and lower educational opportunities. > > BE COUNTED! > > -- > > André Cramblit, Operations Director > > The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) > NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, > and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC > operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of > American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work > of the Tribes of N.W. California. > (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift) > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

"Andre P. Cramblit" wrote: > United States Census 2000 > Information For American Indians > > This April the 2000 Census will occur and it is vital that every American > Indian family participates so an accurate count can provide increased > funding for many crucial programs. By correctly identifying your Tribal > membership on the census form you are helping to properly fund the many > programs that assist you and your family. These programs include health > care, employment training services, childcare, emergency services and > educational support. > > The 1990 census undercounted a vast number of Native Americans. In one > instance the American Indian population of Siskiyou County was listed as > having 33 members of the Karuk Tribe when, according to a Tribally > conducted Census, there are in fact nearly 1000 Karuk people who reside > there. > > Under counting of the American Indian populace in the last Census created a > variety of serious issues. These problems include; less funds for health > care, reduced employment training services, limited access to childcare, > diminished emergency services and lower educational opportunities. > > BE COUNTED! > > -- > > André Cramblit, Operations Director > > The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) > NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, > and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC > operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of > American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work > of the Tribes of N.W. California. > (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift) > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Forwarding to the list. Jacque Native American blood, card or no card, Amen! <BG> ----- Original Message ----- From: <CHOCTAW-L-request@rootsweb.com> To: <andrekar@ncidc.org> Cc: <CHOCTAW-admin@lists.rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 9:44 AM Subject: Re: CHOCTAW-D Digest V00 #36 Andre replies: If you consider yourself to be Native then I would encourage you to indicate that on the Census please refer to the following article: http://www.minorities-jb.com/native/special/census1199.html Filling in the Census by Mary Blount, PhD, Census Tribal Liaison, Muskogee Creek. Non federal Indians are not getting the full story on how to enumerate and be counted as Indian. These are the rules given to Federal Tribes by the Census Bureau. To make sure you are counted, follow the steps below. Check Indian as the only race listing no other admixture (white, black, etc.). Enter the name of your tribe using only 19 letters. Check with tribal officials to ensure everyone in the tribe is using the same tribal name with same spelling. Be sure that person #1 on the Census lists as Indian, because everyone in the household will be counted as the same race as # 1. Pass it on and your people will be counted appropriately. There are two forms, short and long. The long form has the added question about ancestry which asks nationality, i.e. what your parents-grandparents were. Again, what is filled in is important. The coding information is true for all minorities, since how the Census statisticians deal with the data is the key. Only full bloods of any race are listed in the primary census reports that are promulgated for national use. The secondary census report data seldom get wide spread discrimination; thus, anyone not counted as full blood does not get counted into program funding which is based upon the primary race count. I know it sounds complex and it is, since it is essentially a governmental, money saving device. Copies of the census forms are available on from the Census Bureau. You can download either short or long copies and get familiar with it. If you have questions, please email me. Andreacute; Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council http://www.ncidc.org NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift

Rusty, I checked out you site and it looks good!!! My husband is a Colbert and related to the Carnes. I only have the names Sam Aaron, Aaron, and Philip Colbert on that side. I just got started do research on them. keep in touch. Lisa

United States Census 2000 Information For American Indians This April the 2000 Census will occur and it is vital that every American Indian family participates so an accurate count can provide increased funding for many crucial programs. By correctly identifying your Tribal membership on the census form you are helping to properly fund the many programs that assist you and your family. These programs include health care, employment training services, childcare, emergency services and educational support. The 1990 census undercounted a vast number of Native Americans. In one instance the American Indian population of Siskiyou County was listed as having 33 members of the Karuk Tribe when, according to a Tribally conducted Census, there are in fact nearly 1000 Karuk people who reside there. Under counting of the American Indian populace in the last Census created a variety of serious issues. These problems include; less funds for health care, reduced employment training services, limited access to childcare, diminished emergency services and lower educational opportunities. BE COUNTED! -- André Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift)

I'm sure that there will be a big fight about this but...... if your not a tribal member how would your marking Native American Indian help anyone. Your not going to help me by lying. Let your conscience be your guide. Doug CrazyCL52@aol.com wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a ? about marking the census as Indian. I was always told that I had > Indian in us but as of yet I have not been able to prove it. So should I > still mark it as Indian since I may in fact not be Indian? Or should you > only mark it as Indian if you are registered? I want to be truthful but I > also want the Indians to be counted too so that they may get all that they > deserve. Can someone answer this ? for me. Thanks. > > Carol > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ Andre replies: If you consider yourself to be Native then I would encourage you to indicate that on the Census please refer to the following article: http://www.minorities-jb.com/native/special/census1199.html Filling in the Census by Mary Blount, PhD, Census Tribal Liaison, Muskogee Creek Non federal Indians are not getting the full story on how to enumerate and be counted as Indian. These are the rules given to Federal Tribes by the Census Bureau. To make sure you are counted, follow the steps below. Check Indian as the only race listing no other admixture (white, black, etc.). Enter the name of your tribe using only 19 letters. Check with tribal officials to ensure everyone in the tribe is using the same tribal name with same spelling. Be sure that person #1 on the Census lists as Indian, because everyone in the household will be counted as the same race as # 1. Pass it on and your people will be counted appropriately. There are two forms, short and long. The long form has the added question about ancestry which asks nationality, i.e. what your parents-grandparents were. Again, what is filled in is important. What I am telling my tribe is to enter " North American " since the race is already listed as American Indian. . The coding information is true for all minorities, since how the Census statisticians deal with the data is the key. Only full bloods of any race are listed in the primary census reports that are promulgated for national use. The secondary census report data seldom get wide spread discrimination; thus, anyone not counted as full blood does not get counted into program funding which is based upon the primary race count. I know it sounds complex and it is, since it is essentially a governmental, money saving device. Copies of the census forms are available on from the Census Bureau. You can download either short or long copies and get familiar with it. If you have questions, please email me. -- André Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift)

Looks great. Doug Rlang90547@aol.com wrote: > <A HREF="http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/index.htm">Click here: > index.htm </A> > My genealogy website is up. I don't know why the "o's" aren't working in the > big type, Will fix that later. Your responses are shamelessly solicited. > Rusty Lang, > Impson surname board administrator > Impson Mailing List administrator > Rootsweb donor > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/

I thought someone might find this story interesting about Basil LeFlore when he was connected with the Goodland School in Hugo, OK. <A HREF="http://www.goodlander.com/">Basil LeFlore</A>

<A HREF="http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/index.htm">Click here: index.htm </A> My genealogy website is up. I don't know why the "o's" aren't working in the big type, Will fix that later. Your responses are shamelessly solicited. Rusty Lang, Impson surname board administrator Impson Mailing List administrator Rootsweb donor