Hi Everybody.. Well we have a new project under way. This was Fay's idea! Huh Fay? LOL.... Anyway I think it is a good one. Here's the deal. I have started a "Family Group Sheet" project for our web page. This is something that not only will help all of us, but others out there researching as well. Below you will find the instructions for submitting your Choctaw family group sheets. They will be searchable by a Surname Index page. Each persons name and e-mail address will be on each group sheet as the submitter. Making it easy to make contact with others searching your family line. You may need to print this message out to have the instructions in front of you. Or they are on the sample page. which is linked "from" the home page. If you would like to view the sample page, visit: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/blankfg.htm These online pages will be in the large format to make it easier for the ones who have trouble reading web pages due to their eye sight. BUT... at the top of each page there will be a link to the "text" file, which you can click your mouse on to view, and PRINT it out. ******************************************************************* Instructions to submit your Family Group Sheets. By using your genealogy computer program, do ONE group sheet at a time. Save it as ASCII TEXT. You can then open this file in your word processor, or Note Pad. Copy and Paste the whole thing, placing it into an E-mail message to me, Markie <mlo99@bellsouth.net>. Place "GROUP SHEET" in the subject line. You are also welcome to attach the group sheet as a seperate file to the e-mail message. Please include a notation or star by the name of the person who is... CHOCTAW or...NAME WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT TRIBE, listing tribal name... Cherokee.. Creek.... etc. Example: Husband: John Doe..."Choctaw". Wife: Jane Doe.. "Cherokee". or...THOUGHT TO BE NATIVE AMERICAN by oral history. These notations will be very useful to anyone who will research your family group sheet. Please include as many sources and documentation as possible. This page is an example, and the actual group sheet of your family will include as many children as you have. Which will be on your family group sheet page. >From the Front page of our web site, there will be a link to The Group Sheet Index page, All Family group sheets will be linked from the Index page. ********************************************* As you send in your group sheets, I will be saving them in a special folder I made, just for these submissions. I probably won't have time to respond to each person at the time I receive it, but when you view the web page, and IF your's is not there, then please contact me again about yours. Thank you for being part of this very important Choctaw genealogy resource on the Internet. Thank you Markie
Sherry: I have the following books and am willing to do lookups: Wanted: The Heart of a Red Headed Woodpecker (Woodward) Living on Holson Creek (White) The Third Arrow (Barker) Peter Pitchlynn, Chief of the Choctaws (Baird) Choctaws and Missionaries in Mississippi, 1818-1918 (Kidwell) Leaders and Leading Men of Indian Territory (OBeirne) Who Was Who Among The Southern Indians (Martini) Emigration Records, 1831-36 (Vol. I and 2) (Olsen) Indians and Intruders - Vol 3 - (Ashton) Life and Times of the Choctaw Original Enrollees (Samuels) Eastern Oklahoma Indians and Pioneers - Vol 1 - (LeMaster) Family History of Jeremiah Gardner History of the Choctaw, Chickasaw & Natchez Indians (Cushman) Rise and Fall of the Choctaw Republic (Debo) Five Civilized Tribes (Foreman) I also have the 1855 Choctaw Nation Census but its not indexed and finding a name is like looking for a needle in a haystack. To look up something in this census, it would be imperative that the asker know which district their family lived in. I am also sending this list to Markie for her website. Barbara
American Indian/Alaskan Natives Be Counted For Census 2000! It is very important that each native person/household fills out and mails back the US Census 2000. If you do not fill out the information for your tribe correctly, you and your family may not be counted by the government as a Native household. An estimated 12.2 percent of American Indians and Alaska Natives were missed nationwide in 1990. This 2000 census will be used to provide future funding for almost all Indian programs. If you and others in your Tribe are not counted, it may cause the US Congress to reduce or stop funding altogether for many Indian programs such as Health Services, housing, education, (and the list goes on.) Don't let this happen to your family, or your Tribe. There is a critical need for an accurate count and all answers provided are strictly confidential, with no way to connect answers or personal information to an individual. The Census Bureau does not require documentation of Indian blood, so you are free to self-identify. If you identify as a Native American, even if you are of mixed race, we recommend that you answer the race question as only AMERICAN INDIAN or ALASKA NATIVE. Use the following checklist when it is time to fill out the Census: 1) In a household with both an Indian and Non Indian adult the Indian adult should ALWAYS be indicated as the head of household. (There is NO requirement that the Head of Household be male, or the larger wage earner, etc.) 2) Check only one race, American Indian/Alaska Native and write in the name of your tribe. The Tribes name should be no more than 19 letters long and everybody must spell the name the same way. If you have any questions please contact your tribe. 3) Check NO on the Hispanic/Latino origin question. (Do this EVEN if you have Hispanic/Latino blood in addition to American Indian or Alaskan Native background. If you check Hispanic/Latino, your Indian affiliation will not be counted.) Questionnaire Assistance Centers (QACs) are available if you need help with the census form. For more information please call the Northern California Indian Development Council (NCIDC) at (707) 445-8451, (800) 566-2381 or check our website at www.ncidc.org -- André Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift)
Barbara, I was wondering if you could check in the Who Was Who Among The Southern Indians (Martini) and see if by any chance there is a Philip Colbert born around 1860. His son's name was Aaron. Any help you can give me would be appreciate. thanks, Lisa Colbert
Hello, I reread your e-mail and some of the places, Bosque, Texas, Missi., and Hill Co., Texas were the places my Tucker, Daniel, Muse, Thompson families lived and from there they moved to Stephens Co., Ok. Do recognize any of these families? They were told by their family they were Choctaw. Marian in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: <DMNewlin@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Roll Call > Dear Cousins All: > > My Choctaw heritage begins with: > > John Jackson Smith (b. 1799 South Carolina d. Bosque Co., Texas 1867) and > Martha JONES (b. abt 1801) who is said to have been 3/4 Choctaw > > They had eleven children, all born in Choctaw areas and/or cessions in > Mississippi. They did NOT go west with the majority of the tribe(s) in the > 1830s since John Jackson Smith was an Indian Agent and stayed behind. > > The family apparently emigrated to Texas right after the Civil War along with > most (but not all) of the children. > > While a resident of Hill County, Texas, grandson Burton Smith Burks applied > for Choctaw Citizenship in 1896 and it was granted to him and his children. I > have all the documentation from the Dawes Commission. The Choctaw nation sued > him and the decision was reversed without any clear explanation in the > documentation. > > Many family members later moved to Garvin Co., Oklahoma, where my grandfather > Carl Self was born in the small community of Antioch in 1906. > > Cousin David in El Paso > DMNewlin@aol.com > Researching: Newlin; Self; Rupp; Vaugh'a'n; Rain'e's; Burks; Snedeker; > Davidson; Pickleshimer and variations; Blaine; Hamaker; Spurling. > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >
Halito Everyone. I have had several request for a "Lookup" page to be added to the Choctaw Web page. I am happy to add this page to the site, but need volunteers! <G> Anyone who has books, CD's, or any other material, and you are "willing" to do lookups for others, please email me "privately" with "LOOKUP" as the subject line...... listing the resources that you have.... I will make a web page, giving your name, e-mail address, and your resources. It doesn't matter if the same resource is listed more than once. The more the better.... you will receive email from all sorts of places asking for information. A lot of the people will be from our lists here, but there will be others who are just surfing and came across the web page. So be sure you would like to do this before you submit your name as a "lookup volunteer". <G> This works really well on our USGenWeb sites, and I think it will work very well on our site too! As soon as I can get the page online I will post the address to our lists, so everyone will know what is available. There will be a link from the front page also.. of course. <G> OH yeah... some people do not sign their messages as we usually know who we are, :) but for this page, please send me you "name" so I can put it as a working link to your email address. I don't see why we can't be just as good as a GenWeb site.... right? LOL Yakoke Thanks to all of you who volunteer for this type of project. Markie
Barbara: Why don't you list the book you have available and authors so the list can make a copy. You may have something I need!! sherry dustyc@microgear.net -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Sullivan <granb@swbell.net> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 9:10 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW] LOOK UPS > >I think this is a good idea too! I have a few books that I would be >happy to look up information in and am always on the lookout for more. >And I bet there would be several more on some of the other lists, i.e. >Choctaw Southeast, Indian Territory, etc., that might want to add their >names & books also. >Barbara > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >
I think this is a good idea too! I have a few books that I would be happy to look up information in and am always on the lookout for more. And I bet there would be several more on some of the other lists, i.e. Choctaw Southeast, Indian Territory, etc., that might want to add their names & books also. Barbara
Boy, this one is a tough one for me as I don't even know how to go about getting my CDIB card. Can anyone help Pam? Please email her personally as she is not a subscriber. Thanks Jacque in SE ID ----- Original Message ----- From: David & Pam Carrier <dcarrier@azalea.net> To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 7:21 PM Subject: Genealogy > Do you help with genealogy? I am Choctaw Indian. I have a CDIB card that > I received in 1990. I do not know much of my family history. My mother & > father divorced when I was 4. My brother and I made contact with our > father after 20 yrs. and he was glad to apply for our CDIB cards. We > have not had much contact since with him and I have always been curious > as to our family history. If you can help me please e-mail me @ > pkcarrier@excite.com. My maiden name was Pamela Kay Simpson, Born 6-9-66 > in OK City, Parents Leroy Simpson & Margaret <Lay> Simpson. > Father's mother: Emily Simpson,deceased > > > Thank You for any help you can offer, > Sincerely, > Pam Carrier >
Forwarding to the list for help as requestor is not a subscriber. If you can help or offer suggestions, please reply to the requestor. Jacque in SE ID ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmie Coffey <coffeyj@acu.edu> To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: searching for roots > hello, I am searching for my great grandfather's parents. My > g-grandfather was James > Wilkinson and he lived very near the Choctaw Reservation in > MS. My grandfather grew up > playing with Choctaw children. I have wondered if one of > James's ancestors may have been > Choctaw. Also, my grandmother grew up in MS, the daughter of > Norris Townsend and Sally > Moore. I am almost positive that she had Indian blood > because of her features, especially her > cole black hair which was still black at 94. The Wilkinson, > Townsend and Moore families > intermarried. Do you have any records that might help me > find my gr-gr grand;arents? > Any help very much appreciated! > Thank you, > Jimmie Wilkinson Coffey >
Sorry, Sherry, I didn't mean for it to sound like you didn't know how to request information from the Tribal offices. I just meant I am in the same boat YOU WERE when you first started and I would love to see steps someone would take if they were new and trying to figure out what or how to go about looking for that Choctaw ancestor someone in their family told them about. Ya know what I mean? Would you want to take up that task and then perhaps Markie could post it to the web page? Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusty Collins <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Lookups available... > Oh, I know how to request data from the Tribal Office - I've done it several > times in the past. It's just that it takes them so long with the HUGE > amount of requests they get in. Just though maybe those of us who have > records available at home could be sort of a "front-line". > > dustyc@microgear.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> > To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, March 06, 2000 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Lookups available... > > > >Sherry, > > > >I am all for people helping people. I think it is a great idea. I don't > >even mind you and anyone else posting whatever you know/find to the list, > >that way we will all get to see the answer/question. I also think it would > >be a great resource for Markie to post a list or separate web page to the > >Choctaw web page of those members willing to do look-ups with a list of > what > >resources they have. > > > >I, personally, have not tried to obtain information on my Choctaw WARD line > >from the Tribal Enrollment offices and, like you, wouldn't know where to > >begin. > > > >Perhaps another idea would be to send messages to the list(s) in a volume > >format, per se, of just how someone would go about looking, i.e., what > steps > >you would take, etc. > > > >Thank you so much Sherry for offering to do look-ups. When I have a > moment, > >perhaps I'll see what you have on my ancestors. > > > >Jacque in SE ID > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Dusty Collins <dustyc@microgear.net> > >To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 10:04 PM > >Subject: [CHOCTAW] Lookups available... > > > > > >> Jacque and everyone: > >> > >> Just my opinion...for what it's worth. There are several of us on the > >> Choctaw and Choctaw-SE list who have resources such as lists, rolls, > >etc.in > >> their private library that might be able to really help someone out there > >> looking for any clue to their ancestors NA heritage. I for one am happy > >to > >> do lookups on the resources I have (listed below) and have made this > offer > >> on several surname mail lists that I am on. The Tribal Enrollment offices > >> are swamped these days with everyone trying to find that lost "indian in > >the > >> cupboard" in their family. As we have seen, many of these people have > >> nothing more than a family story or rumor. When I started trying to > >> document 30 years ago, I didn't have the faintest clue where to go or > what > >> to do. I now have a little more knowledge and experience in researching > >NA > >> records. Don't you guys think the tribal offices would be happy for us > >to > >> serve as sort of unofficial "front-line" researchers. Maybe they > >wouldn't - > >> I'm just asking. If we can be of service by looking up exact census > card > >> nos., etc. it stands to reason that the whole process could go a little > >> smoother. Seems to me we are in a position to take a lot of the work off > >> the tribal office. I know they must have a tremendous backlog, as I have > >> friends who have sent in applications and queries and it has taken them 2 > >> years to get replies. Has anyone asked the Tribal Office what they think > >> about us doing lookups? I see nothing wrong with putting up a page on our > >> site listing the names of members who are willing to do lookups and what > >> resources they have available. Justmy opinion.... Whacha' think, gang??? > >> Here's what I've got: > >> > >> Indes to Final Dawes Rolls, Five Civilized Tribes (Choctaw, Cherokee, > >Creek, > >> Seminole, Chickasaw. > >> > >> Index to applications for Final Dawes Rolls, 1898-1914. > >> > >> Applications for Final Dawes Rolls rejected. > >> > >> The following rolls are for EASTERN CHEROKEE only: 1817 Reservation Roll, > >> 1817-1835 Emigration Roll, 1835 Henderson Roll, 1848 Mullay Roll, 1851 > >Siler > >> Roll, 1852 Chapman Roll, 1869 Swetland Roll, 1883 Hester Roll, 1908 > >> Churchill Roll, 1909 Guion/Miller East Roll, 1924 Baker Roll. > >> > >> These are for WESTERN CHEROKEE (Oklahoma): > >> 1851 Old Settler Roll, 1852 Drennen Roll, 1898-1914 Dawes Roll, 1909 > >> Guion/Miller West Roll. > >> > >> If anyone wants to know why each one of these rolls was done and more > info > >> about it, contact me privately. Iam happy to offer these resources to > >> anyone who need a lookup provided you follow my request guidelines. > >> > >> sherry > >> dustyc@microgear.net > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> > >> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Sunday, March 05, 2000 7:36 PM > >> Subject: [CHOCTAW] Forwarded messages to the list > >> > >> > >> >Well I'm not really sure. I told her about the Choctaw list and asked > >her > >> >if she wanted to subscribe. But I haven't heard anything yet. > >> > > >> >Like Markie, I am getting messages from the Choctaw Nation web site > >asking > >> >for help. So I am wondering if I should just forward them to this list > >> also > >> >and ask everyone to respond to the person who sent the original message. > >> > > >> >What does everyone think? I appreciate your input. > >> > > >> >Jacque in SE ID > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: Dusty Collins <dustyc@microgear.net> > >> >To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 8:43 PM > >> >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Fw: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > >> > > >> > > >> >> Jacque: > >> >> > >> >> What sort of info. did this lady want?? Looks like shes got all of > her > >> >> appropriate numbers. > >> >> > >> >> dustyc@microgear.nt > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> > >> >> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >> Date: Saturday, March 04, 2000 5:12 PM > >> >> Subject: [CHOCTAW] Fw: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Forwarding as she is not a member of the list. I wouldn't know where > >to > >> >> >start to tell her where to look. > >> >> > > >> >> >Jacque > >> >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >From: glenda <sully1@jps.net> > >> >> >To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 2:01 PM > >> >> >Subject: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> oxford, josephine (Dawes Roll No. #4717) choctaw roll & nation > Card > >> >No. > >> >> >> #1673 > >> >> >> date of application for enrollment 5/12/1899, Muskogee, Ok > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >> >> >OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > >> >> >Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >> >> Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > >> >> Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > >> >> Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >> >Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join > >> Rootsweb.com today! > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >> OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > >> Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > >> > > > > > > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! >
Carol, I got them this week-end and I am sorry I didn't let you know. My second phone line was not connected, then it was and then it wasn't, phone company came and fixed it temporarily until Spring, I think. Didn't want to tie up the other line just case, you know, LOL. Thanks so much for sending the information. I have not had a chance to study it real closely yet, but will soon, I hope, pending my day job at the census bureau. Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: <AhSweet1@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Lookups available... > Did you get the copyies in the mail on Ward? > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ >
I'm just glad you received it - US mail is so bad lately!
I see no DeArmons on my 1885 Choctaw Nation Census. Harkins is a fairly common name, but no Lula. If they lived in Ardmore they would be in the Chickasaw Nation. George w. Harkins was a Choctaw judge, colonel and chief. I will forward this on to another list that might help you. Rusty Lang http:homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/
--part1_cb.2c03b2d.25f58f18_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rusty Lang, rlang90547@aol.com Impson Mailing List administrator Impson Surname Board administrator Visit my website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/index.htm <A HREF="http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/">Click here: index.htm </A> Check out the Impson Surname Board at http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/i/m/IMPSON/ Subscribe to the Impson Mailing List at: IMPSON-L@rootsweb.com Researching: ADAMS, ANDERSON, BILLY, BOHANON, BURRIS, COLBERT, CUZALINA, DANENHOUR, ELLIS, FENNELL, FLETCHER, FOLSOM, FREENY, GARDNER, GULLY, HAMPTON, HARKINS, HEWITT, HULL, JONES, MACKEY, MURPHEY, ROBINSON, SISCO, TOAZ, and others. --part1_cb.2c03b2d.25f58f18_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: NormGlynda@aol.com From: NormGlynda@aol.com Full-name: NormGlynda Message-ID: <be.1d5e319.25f56e44@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:25:40 EST Subject: Check out 1885 CHOCTAW CENSUS To: Rlang90547@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 68 <A HREF="http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/1885.htm">Click here: 1885 CHOCTAW CENSUS</A> Rusty, I have an old picture with the name of Jeanette schultz and Walter Lang taken in Foster,Ok.lookes about in the 1915 time period...Do you know of this couple..They are my gr grandmother Jackoline Meeks, Tom McDaniels family..She married a choctaw in 1875. His family was George McDaniels and Betsy McKinny..Betsy was the 1st cousin to Siamon Lewis,who later became a Choctaw Judge.. Jackolines sister Mary Ann Meeks married Toms brother Jeanett... I have records of a Murder of Able Chico (an Indian) that took place in 1879 in the nation..Tom and Jeanette, along with Jeff and Bill Meeks, also Britt Willis , Amos Willis and a Brown Thompson were wanted...They never went to trial....Tom and Jeanette were also wanted for a Assault ,with intent to kill in 1875... Can you tell me would there be any records that the Indians mite have in thier nation ...on these men? .Tom McDaniels was later killed and was buired in Fort Smith,Ar.. THe family said He was shot off his horse at a Indian Stomp dance....I can go understand why they would take him from the nation and bury him in Fort Smith...Can you help me or direct to some one that may...Do you have any ideas on this ....My Jackoline Meeks McDaniels Meek Cousin married into the Colbert and Folsum Family...His name was Henry Meeks..He married Betsy Jeffers...He was also killed in Bryan Co.Ok. I am 66 years old ....and I have this childhood memory of the word "Hotubes." Is this an Indian name or just a family....I was surprised to see it as I remember the word from my child hood...Ho tubby. Thank you so very much for your time.... Glynda --part1_cb.2c03b2d.25f58f18_boundary--
I think this is a wonderful idea. This is how a group of people get things done. Each one helping out in their own special way. This lightens up the load and spreads the weight around so as not to weigh any one person down. Fay Dusty Collins wrote: > Jacque and everyone: > > Just my opinion...for what it's worth. There are several of us on the > > Choctaw and Choctaw-SE list who have resources such as lists, rolls, > etc.in > their private library that might be able to really help someone out > there > looking for any clue to their ancestors NA heritage. I for one am > happy to > do lookups on the resources I have (listed below) and have made this > offer > on several surname mail lists that I am on. The Tribal Enrollment > offices > are swamped these days with everyone trying to find that lost "indian > in the > cupboard" in their family. As we have seen, many of these people have > > nothing more than a family story or rumor. When I started trying to > document 30 years ago, I didn't have the faintest clue where to go or > what > to do. I now have a little more knowledge and experience in > researching NA > records. Don't you guys think the tribal offices would be happy for > us to > serve as sort of unofficial "front-line" researchers. Maybe they > wouldn't - > I'm just asking. If we can be of service by looking up exact census > card > nos., etc. it stands to reason that the whole process could go a > little > smoother. Seems to me we are in a position to take a lot of the work > off > the tribal office. I know they must have a tremendous backlog, as I > have > friends who have sent in applications and queries and it has taken > them 2 > years to get replies. Has anyone asked the Tribal Office what they > think > about us doing lookups? I see nothing wrong with putting up a page on > our > site listing the names of members who are willing to do lookups and > what > resources they have available. Justmy opinion.... Whacha' think, > gang??? > Here's what I've got: > > Indes to Final Dawes Rolls, Five Civilized Tribes (Choctaw, Cherokee, > Creek, > Seminole, Chickasaw. > > Index to applications for Final Dawes Rolls, 1898-1914. > > Applications for Final Dawes Rolls rejected. > > The following rolls are for EASTERN CHEROKEE only: 1817 Reservation > Roll, > 1817-1835 Emigration Roll, 1835 Henderson Roll, 1848 Mullay Roll, 1851 > Siler > Roll, 1852 Chapman Roll, 1869 Swetland Roll, 1883 Hester Roll, 1908 > Churchill Roll, 1909 Guion/Miller East Roll, 1924 Baker Roll. > > These are for WESTERN CHEROKEE (Oklahoma): > 1851 Old Settler Roll, 1852 Drennen Roll, 1898-1914 Dawes Roll, 1909 > Guion/Miller West Roll. > > If anyone wants to know why each one of these rolls was done and more > info > about it, contact me privately. Iam happy to offer these resources to > > anyone who need a lookup provided you follow my request guidelines. > > sherry > dustyc@microgear.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> > To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, March 05, 2000 7:36 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW] Forwarded messages to the list > > >Well I'm not really sure. I told her about the Choctaw list and > asked her > >if she wanted to subscribe. But I haven't heard anything yet. > > > >Like Markie, I am getting messages from the Choctaw Nation web site > asking > >for help. So I am wondering if I should just forward them to this > list > also > >and ask everyone to respond to the person who sent the original > message. > > > >What does everyone think? I appreciate your input. > > > >Jacque in SE ID > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Dusty Collins <dustyc@microgear.net> > >To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 8:43 PM > >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Fw: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > > > > > >> Jacque: > >> > >> What sort of info. did this lady want?? Looks like shes got all of > her > >> appropriate numbers. > >> > >> dustyc@microgear.nt > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> > >> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Saturday, March 04, 2000 5:12 PM > >> Subject: [CHOCTAW] Fw: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > >> > >> > >> >Forwarding as she is not a member of the list. I wouldn't know > where to > >> >start to tell her where to look. > >> > > >> >Jacque > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: glenda <sully1@jps.net> > >> >To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> > >> >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 2:01 PM > >> >Subject: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > >> > > >> > > >> >> oxford, josephine (Dawes Roll No. #4717) choctaw roll & nation > Card > >No. > >> >> #1673 > >> >> date of application for enrollment 5/12/1899, Muskogee, Ok > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >> >OK Surname Registry - added yours? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > >> >Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >> Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > >> Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > >> Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ > >> > > > > > > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join > Rootsweb.com today! > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm
Oh, I know how to request data from the Tribal Office - I've done it several times in the past. It's just that it takes them so long with the HUGE amount of requests they get in. Just though maybe those of us who have records available at home could be sort of a "front-line". dustyc@microgear.net -----Original Message----- From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, March 06, 2000 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Lookups available... >Sherry, > >I am all for people helping people. I think it is a great idea. I don't >even mind you and anyone else posting whatever you know/find to the list, >that way we will all get to see the answer/question. I also think it would >be a great resource for Markie to post a list or separate web page to the >Choctaw web page of those members willing to do look-ups with a list of what >resources they have. > >I, personally, have not tried to obtain information on my Choctaw WARD line >from the Tribal Enrollment offices and, like you, wouldn't know where to >begin. > >Perhaps another idea would be to send messages to the list(s) in a volume >format, per se, of just how someone would go about looking, i.e., what steps >you would take, etc. > >Thank you so much Sherry for offering to do look-ups. When I have a moment, >perhaps I'll see what you have on my ancestors. > >Jacque in SE ID >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dusty Collins <dustyc@microgear.net> >To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 10:04 PM >Subject: [CHOCTAW] Lookups available... > > >> Jacque and everyone: >> >> Just my opinion...for what it's worth. There are several of us on the >> Choctaw and Choctaw-SE list who have resources such as lists, rolls, >etc.in >> their private library that might be able to really help someone out there >> looking for any clue to their ancestors NA heritage. I for one am happy >to >> do lookups on the resources I have (listed below) and have made this offer >> on several surname mail lists that I am on. The Tribal Enrollment offices >> are swamped these days with everyone trying to find that lost "indian in >the >> cupboard" in their family. As we have seen, many of these people have >> nothing more than a family story or rumor. When I started trying to >> document 30 years ago, I didn't have the faintest clue where to go or what >> to do. I now have a little more knowledge and experience in researching >NA >> records. Don't you guys think the tribal offices would be happy for us >to >> serve as sort of unofficial "front-line" researchers. Maybe they >wouldn't - >> I'm just asking. If we can be of service by looking up exact census card >> nos., etc. it stands to reason that the whole process could go a little >> smoother. Seems to me we are in a position to take a lot of the work off >> the tribal office. I know they must have a tremendous backlog, as I have >> friends who have sent in applications and queries and it has taken them 2 >> years to get replies. Has anyone asked the Tribal Office what they think >> about us doing lookups? I see nothing wrong with putting up a page on our >> site listing the names of members who are willing to do lookups and what >> resources they have available. Justmy opinion.... Whacha' think, gang??? >> Here's what I've got: >> >> Indes to Final Dawes Rolls, Five Civilized Tribes (Choctaw, Cherokee, >Creek, >> Seminole, Chickasaw. >> >> Index to applications for Final Dawes Rolls, 1898-1914. >> >> Applications for Final Dawes Rolls rejected. >> >> The following rolls are for EASTERN CHEROKEE only: 1817 Reservation Roll, >> 1817-1835 Emigration Roll, 1835 Henderson Roll, 1848 Mullay Roll, 1851 >Siler >> Roll, 1852 Chapman Roll, 1869 Swetland Roll, 1883 Hester Roll, 1908 >> Churchill Roll, 1909 Guion/Miller East Roll, 1924 Baker Roll. >> >> These are for WESTERN CHEROKEE (Oklahoma): >> 1851 Old Settler Roll, 1852 Drennen Roll, 1898-1914 Dawes Roll, 1909 >> Guion/Miller West Roll. >> >> If anyone wants to know why each one of these rolls was done and more info >> about it, contact me privately. Iam happy to offer these resources to >> anyone who need a lookup provided you follow my request guidelines. >> >> sherry >> dustyc@microgear.net >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> >> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Sunday, March 05, 2000 7:36 PM >> Subject: [CHOCTAW] Forwarded messages to the list >> >> >> >Well I'm not really sure. I told her about the Choctaw list and asked >her >> >if she wanted to subscribe. But I haven't heard anything yet. >> > >> >Like Markie, I am getting messages from the Choctaw Nation web site >asking >> >for help. So I am wondering if I should just forward them to this list >> also >> >and ask everyone to respond to the person who sent the original message. >> > >> >What does everyone think? I appreciate your input. >> > >> >Jacque in SE ID >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Dusty Collins <dustyc@microgear.net> >> >To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 8:43 PM >> >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Fw: choctaw muskogee oklahoma >> > >> > >> >> Jacque: >> >> >> >> What sort of info. did this lady want?? Looks like shes got all of her >> >> appropriate numbers. >> >> >> >> dustyc@microgear.nt >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> >> >> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Date: Saturday, March 04, 2000 5:12 PM >> >> Subject: [CHOCTAW] Fw: choctaw muskogee oklahoma >> >> >> >> >> >> >Forwarding as she is not a member of the list. I wouldn't know where >to >> >> >start to tell her where to look. >> >> > >> >> >Jacque >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >> >From: glenda <sully1@jps.net> >> >> >To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 2:01 PM >> >> >Subject: choctaw muskogee oklahoma >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> oxford, josephine (Dawes Roll No. #4717) choctaw roll & nation Card >> >No. >> >> >> #1673 >> >> >> date of application for enrollment 5/12/1899, Muskogee, Ok >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >> >> >OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ >> >> >Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >> >> Looking for your Native American Ancestors in >> >> Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? >> >> Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >> >Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join >> Rootsweb.com today! >> > >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >> OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ >> Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm >> > > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma >
Sherry, I am all for people helping people. I think it is a great idea. I don't even mind you and anyone else posting whatever you know/find to the list, that way we will all get to see the answer/question. I also think it would be a great resource for Markie to post a list or separate web page to the Choctaw web page of those members willing to do look-ups with a list of what resources they have. I, personally, have not tried to obtain information on my Choctaw WARD line from the Tribal Enrollment offices and, like you, wouldn't know where to begin. Perhaps another idea would be to send messages to the list(s) in a volume format, per se, of just how someone would go about looking, i.e., what steps you would take, etc. Thank you so much Sherry for offering to do look-ups. When I have a moment, perhaps I'll see what you have on my ancestors. Jacque in SE ID ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusty Collins <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Lookups available... > Jacque and everyone: > > Just my opinion...for what it's worth. There are several of us on the > Choctaw and Choctaw-SE list who have resources such as lists, rolls, etc.in > their private library that might be able to really help someone out there > looking for any clue to their ancestors NA heritage. I for one am happy to > do lookups on the resources I have (listed below) and have made this offer > on several surname mail lists that I am on. The Tribal Enrollment offices > are swamped these days with everyone trying to find that lost "indian in the > cupboard" in their family. As we have seen, many of these people have > nothing more than a family story or rumor. When I started trying to > document 30 years ago, I didn't have the faintest clue where to go or what > to do. I now have a little more knowledge and experience in researching NA > records. Don't you guys think the tribal offices would be happy for us to > serve as sort of unofficial "front-line" researchers. Maybe they wouldn't - > I'm just asking. If we can be of service by looking up exact census card > nos., etc. it stands to reason that the whole process could go a little > smoother. Seems to me we are in a position to take a lot of the work off > the tribal office. I know they must have a tremendous backlog, as I have > friends who have sent in applications and queries and it has taken them 2 > years to get replies. Has anyone asked the Tribal Office what they think > about us doing lookups? I see nothing wrong with putting up a page on our > site listing the names of members who are willing to do lookups and what > resources they have available. Justmy opinion.... Whacha' think, gang??? > Here's what I've got: > > Indes to Final Dawes Rolls, Five Civilized Tribes (Choctaw, Cherokee, Creek, > Seminole, Chickasaw. > > Index to applications for Final Dawes Rolls, 1898-1914. > > Applications for Final Dawes Rolls rejected. > > The following rolls are for EASTERN CHEROKEE only: 1817 Reservation Roll, > 1817-1835 Emigration Roll, 1835 Henderson Roll, 1848 Mullay Roll, 1851 Siler > Roll, 1852 Chapman Roll, 1869 Swetland Roll, 1883 Hester Roll, 1908 > Churchill Roll, 1909 Guion/Miller East Roll, 1924 Baker Roll. > > These are for WESTERN CHEROKEE (Oklahoma): > 1851 Old Settler Roll, 1852 Drennen Roll, 1898-1914 Dawes Roll, 1909 > Guion/Miller West Roll. > > If anyone wants to know why each one of these rolls was done and more info > about it, contact me privately. Iam happy to offer these resources to > anyone who need a lookup provided you follow my request guidelines. > > sherry > dustyc@microgear.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> > To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, March 05, 2000 7:36 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW] Forwarded messages to the list > > > >Well I'm not really sure. I told her about the Choctaw list and asked her > >if she wanted to subscribe. But I haven't heard anything yet. > > > >Like Markie, I am getting messages from the Choctaw Nation web site asking > >for help. So I am wondering if I should just forward them to this list > also > >and ask everyone to respond to the person who sent the original message. > > > >What does everyone think? I appreciate your input. > > > >Jacque in SE ID > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Dusty Collins <dustyc@microgear.net> > >To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 8:43 PM > >Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Fw: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > > > > > >> Jacque: > >> > >> What sort of info. did this lady want?? Looks like shes got all of her > >> appropriate numbers. > >> > >> dustyc@microgear.nt > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jacque Hopkins Wolski <hopkinsj@ida.net> > >> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Saturday, March 04, 2000 5:12 PM > >> Subject: [CHOCTAW] Fw: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > >> > >> > >> >Forwarding as she is not a member of the list. I wouldn't know where to > >> >start to tell her where to look. > >> > > >> >Jacque > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: glenda <sully1@jps.net> > >> >To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> > >> >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 2:01 PM > >> >Subject: choctaw muskogee oklahoma > >> > > >> > > >> >> oxford, josephine (Dawes Roll No. #4717) choctaw roll & nation Card > >No. > >> >> #1673 > >> >> date of application for enrollment 5/12/1899, Muskogee, Ok > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >> >OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > >> >Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >> Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > >> Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > >> Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ > >> > > > > > > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join > Rootsweb.com today! > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm >
Does anyone recognized the Name Dudley as being Choctaw? My grandmother was part Choctaw, her father was full Choctaw. His name was David Dudley, his father was John Warren Dudley. Grandma name was Ola Dudley. They were from Charleston, AR. Marge
Hi Everyone, I am looking for the parents of my great grandmother Mary Alice Boren she married a Marion T. Hulsey and lived in Red Oak, OK. They are on the Daws and Choctaw Rolls. Any information on her or her family would be appreciated. Thanks Theresa A. Ramsey