Hi Doug, It doesn't hurt :-) We show William's name as William D. Thompson on Everything, except in my parents wedding album on the family tree page, from early 1950's. William has been traced back to the early -mid 1800's thru early 1900's. He was a Justice of the Peace in the mid 1800's in Tallapoosa Co. AL, so I hope that if I can see a copy of his records (if they still exist), some light might be shed on his name. Perhaps he slipped one time and entered his complete name in a record! His obit from Mississippi only shows "D", the sneek! Thanks for the additional possibility for Durden. Respectfully, Lisa Anne (Thompson) McCratic -----Original Message----- From: Doug Barkley [mailto:genreser@intcon.net] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 10:08 PM To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] "Durden" name Got Darden does that help? Doug Tim McCratic wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone heard of the name "Durden" as either an given, middle or surname? > I have a William Durden Thompson and no idea as to where the "Durden" name > came from. Any ideas? > > Respectfully, > > Lisa Anne (Thompson) McCratic > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm

My previous message should have read: Choctaw by marriage to Indian wife. Thanks, Jean

Lucy Jane TANNER, dau. of Sam Tanner and Sarah Walker. She married Michol SMALLWOOD and moved to Atoka, OK. They had a daughter, Sorilla. Michol died in perhaps 1876-1880. In 1880 Lucy Jane Smallwood married James Bowman in Dallas Co., TX. They moved to OK. The 1890 census of the Chickasaw Nation Indian Territory, Book 2 Pickins Co. has: 27080 Bowman, J.K. and wife, age 33, 1 male, 3 females, Healdton, Carter Co., Choctaw by marriage 33880 Bowman J.K. and wife, age 33, 1 male, 3 female, Healdton, carter County, Choctaw by marriage. Lucy died Oct 13, 1895 and is buried in Healdton. James died in 1909 in TX Would appreciate and bit of information or advise about either of the people. Thanks for any help. Jean Bowman

Hi all, Has anyone heard of the name "Durden" as either an given, middle or surname? I have a William Durden Thompson and no idea as to where the "Durden" name came from. Any ideas? Respectfully, Lisa Anne (Thompson) McCratic

Forwarding again. Apparently someone responded to Melanie's first message and she didn't know who to respond to so she sent it to me. Thanks Jacque in SE ID ----- Original Message ----- From: <Themsgt88@aol.com> To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 6:03 AM Subject: Re: (no subject) > Thank you so much for the help. I am very sure that Clara May Burney is my > great grandmother. Could you please tell me if there was an Alfred L Burney > listed as well. He was her father. I am greatful for all of the help you have > given me. I now know is was Choctaw. If there is any thing else you come > acroos please let me know. Good luck with your onw research. > Melanie >

I've only recently started looking for my husband's family within the Indian Territory. Although I don't have any first hand rememberances, the family has like most families told bits and pieces that have passed down, I'm simply trying to maybe make some sense of it, often just guessing and grasping at straws. Who know sometimes you get lucky, at any rate here's what I have and believe could be the case. Rumor was that one set of grandparents were from two different tribes, since they still live in OK in Leflore Co. I;m thinking the close proximity would make them Cherokee and Choctaw. They refered to him as Cherokee Davis so this is what leads me to this conclusion. Merinda (Renda) COLE b, 1888 m. John DAVIS b.1886. If anyone can offer any clues I'd be ever thankful as I'm trying to find her parents. Thanks, Patricia

Forwarding, if you can help Brandy, please email her directly as she is not a subscriber. Thanks Jacque in SE ID ----- Original Message ----- From: <BranMuz@cs.com> To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 4:45 PM Subject: (no subject) > Hello, I am Brandy Draper Muzykoski, and I am looking for information on my > great-great-grandparents. I was told by my father, who is also searching for > our family tree that they lived in Choctaw County, Ok. We've been searching > for this particular couple and have not so much information ,,There names > are Andrew J Draper Jr and a Julie Tedder Draper. If you have any info or > insight as to where i should look, please e-mail me when you have time. Thank > you for your help.. Brandy Muzykoski >

For More General Information See: http://www.census.gov/rccdal/community/tribalprogram.html Census 2000 & American Indians, Alaska Natives According to the US Census Bureau the 1990 undercount was estimated at about 4 million people or between 1.8 to 2.1 percent overall. However, for minorities the estimated undercount was much higher - Blacks 5.1 percent: Asians 3.2 Percent; Hispanics 5.5 percent; and American Indians 5.3 (12.9 on reservations) Challenges faced by the Indian Community to obtain a complete count: o Reaching all Indians to encourage them to fill out the census forms o Educating Indian community members to fill out the forms so they will be Counted as Indian o Passage of federal legislation to insure all Indians is a part of the Indian Count. o Constitutional mandate for the census is to apportion the United State House of Representatives o Determine federal funding formulas o 1990 was the first time in history that the current year's count was less accurate than the previous count o The urban Indian 1990 undercount was far greater than the 5.3 percent reported by the census bureau In Los Angeles and Orange Counties Indian community agencies estimate the undercount at 30 to 50 percent. o This undercount resulted in an estimated loss of 40 percent in the base funding for Indian community services. The stakes are high for Indian communities, urban and reservation The census 2000 must do a better job of accounting for all Indian populations If it is not better, Indian communities, families, children will be big losers So how do we overcome? WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR AMERICAN INDIANS AND ALASKA NATIVES TO ANSWER THE CENSUS? The Census affects the entire American Indian community, tribal governments, urban Indian communities, local and nationally, especially in terms of funding for programs serving American Indian families and children. WILL I HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF OF MY SELF-IDENTIFICATION (TRIBAL IDENTIFICATION CARD)? The Census Bureau does not require documentation of Indian blood, so you are free to self-identify. I AM OF MIXED BLOOD, WHAT SHOULD I DO? If you identify as an American Indian, even if you are of mixed race, we recommend that you answer the race question as ONLY AMERICAN INDIAN. The Census form will allow you to check more than one race. However, if you check any other races, there is no guarantee that you will be counted as an American Indian. Please do not leave this section blank, or the Census Bureau may have to guess your race. If you live in a mixed household, the American Indian/Alaska Native spouse should be listed as Person Number 1 (head of household) to qualify as an American Indian household. Having a tribal enrollment number does not mean you are automatically counted by the census. DO I NEED TO LIST THE NAME OF MY TRIBE? Please DO NOT leave the tribe section blank, even if you are not enrolled in your tribe. Naming your tribe will help ensure that you are counted as American Indian, and it will also help your tribe and local agencies that serve American Indians for data and funding purposes. It is important to put your primary tribe first. Write in your tribe even if your tribe is not federally recognized. I AM ALSO OF HISPANIC ORIGIN. SHOULD I LIST THIS ON THE CENSUS FORM? We recommend that you answer NO to the Hispanic Origin question, even if you have a Hispanic surname or Hispanic origin. In the past, American Indians who answered 'yes' to the Hispanic Origin question were not counted as American Indians, but as Hispanic/Latino. Please do not leave this question blank, or the Census Bureau may guess whether or not you are Hispanic origin. Especially if you have a Hispanic surname or live in a Hispanic neighborhood they will assume the answer is yes. IS THERE A DUE DATE FOR SUBMITTING THE CENSUS FORM? Fill out the form and return it right away. The due date is April 1, 2000 If you do not return your form by the due date, a census worker may come door to door to ask you questions. If you do not wish to be bothered at your home, you should turn in the form on time. If you are not home or do not answer the door, the census worker may ask your neighbors to answer questions about you, including your race. This may result in incorrect data, and you may not be counted as American Indian. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF I DO NOT ANSWER ALL OF THE QUESTIONS (LEAVE ANSWERS BLANK)? Do not leave any information blank, especially Race and Hispanic Origin. If you leave a question blank, information will be answered for you and you may not be counted as an American Indian. -- André Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift)

Forwarding, if you can help Melanie, please email her directly as she is not a subscriber. Thanks Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: <Themsgt88@aol.com> To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: (no subject) > I am trying to find out if my Great Grandmother was a Choctaw Indian. I know > she lived in Bryan County in 1910. She was only 10 years old then. Her name > is Clara M. Burney. Can you please help point me in a direction that I can > search records that would have her listed if she was. I thank you. Melanie > Alexander >

Halito one & all, Hope summer is going well for everyone. I desperately nee help ASAP, I need the lords prayer and the correct pronunciation by this Sun 6-30-02. If anyone can help me,PLEASE let me know by tomorrow, Fri. Your info is MUCH APPRECIATED!!! YOYOKE, Kelli Tindle

Thanks for this reply and the other replies. I appreciate it. I was "whining" a bit I think about putting restrictions on a person's race - I had hoped the government had stopped treating Native peoples this way. Thanks, Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre P. Cramblit" <andrekar@ncidc.org> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 10:01 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Re: CHOCTAW-D Digest V00 #55 > CHOCTAW-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Subject: [CHOCTAW] Confused about census now!!1 > > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:48:48 -0800 > > From: "Sharon" <sharander@home.com> > > To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com > > > > I was pretty clear from all the discussion regarding how to fill out the census that we DID NOT have to be a tribal MEMBER in order to identify ourselves with our true heritage of American Indian. But the following message doesn't seem to say that - or am I misunderstanding?? This message which Alice says is from the Census Bureau says: > > > > " American Indian or Alaska Native -- A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment." > > > > Because they use the word "and" this links "American Indian or Alasks Native" to "tribal affiliation or comunity attachment" - meaning that in order to be an American Indian, you must have origins to original peoples AND you must have tribal affiliation or community attachment !!! > > > > I am really confused now - what should we who are Indian but are not tribal members do???. > > > > Sharon > > You do not have to be an enrolled member of the Tribe to participate in the > census. If you consider yourself to be Native then I encourage you to > reflect that in your response. Please refer to the following article: > > Filling in the Census > by Mary Blount, Ph.D., Census Tribal Liaison, Muskogee Creek > > Non federal Indians are not getting the full story on how to enumerate and > be counted as Indian. These are the rules given to Federal Tribes by the > Census Bureau > > To make sure you are counted, follow the steps below. > > Check Indian as the only race listing no other admixture (white, black, > etc.). Enter the name of your tribe using only 19 letters. Check with > tribal officials to ensure everyone in the tribe is using the same tribal > name with same spelling. Be sure that person #1 on the Census lists as > Indian, because everyone in the household will be counted as the same race > as # 1. Pass it on and your people will be counted appropriately. > > There are two forms, short and long. The long form has the added question > about ancestry which asks nationality, i.e. what your parents-grandparents > were. Again, what is filled in is important. > > What I am telling my tribe is to enter " North American " since the race is > already listed as American Indian. > > The coding information is true for all minorities, since how the Census > statisticians deal with the data is the key. Only full bloods of any race > are listed in the primary census reports that are promulgated for national > use. The secondary census report data seldom get wide spread > discrimination; thus, anyone not counted as full blood does not get counted > into program funding which is based upon the primary race count. I know it > sounds complex and it is, since it is essentially a governmental, money > saving device. > -- > > André Cramblit, Operations Director > > The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis > placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift) > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

CHOCTAW-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: [CHOCTAW] Confused about census now!!1 > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:48:48 -0800 > From: "Sharon" <sharander@home.com> > To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com > > I was pretty clear from all the discussion regarding how to fill out the census that we DID NOT have to be a tribal MEMBER in order to identify ourselves with our true heritage of American Indian. But the following message doesn't seem to say that - or am I misunderstanding?? This message which Alice says is from the Census Bureau says: > > " American Indian or Alaska Native -- A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment." > > Because they use the word "and" this links "American Indian or Alasks Native" to "tribal affiliation or comunity attachment" - meaning that in order to be an American Indian, you must have origins to original peoples AND you must have tribal affiliation or community attachment !!! > > I am really confused now - what should we who are Indian but are not tribal members do???. > > Sharon You do not have to be an enrolled member of the Tribe to participate in the census. If you consider yourself to be Native then I encourage you to reflect that in your response. Please refer to the following article: Filling in the Census by Mary Blount, Ph.D., Census Tribal Liaison, Muskogee Creek Non federal Indians are not getting the full story on how to enumerate and be counted as Indian. These are the rules given to Federal Tribes by the Census Bureau To make sure you are counted, follow the steps below. Check Indian as the only race listing no other admixture (white, black, etc.). Enter the name of your tribe using only 19 letters. Check with tribal officials to ensure everyone in the tribe is using the same tribal name with same spelling. Be sure that person #1 on the Census lists as Indian, because everyone in the household will be counted as the same race as # 1. Pass it on and your people will be counted appropriately. There are two forms, short and long. The long form has the added question about ancestry which asks nationality, i.e. what your parents-grandparents were. Again, what is filled in is important. What I am telling my tribe is to enter " North American " since the race is already listed as American Indian. The coding information is true for all minorities, since how the Census statisticians deal with the data is the key. Only full bloods of any race are listed in the primary census reports that are promulgated for national use. The secondary census report data seldom get wide spread discrimination; thus, anyone not counted as full blood does not get counted into program funding which is based upon the primary race count. I know it sounds complex and it is, since it is essentially a governmental, money saving device. -- André Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift)

Sharon: By being just on this list you are maintaining community attachment. You're keeping up with others of your blood and your culture. dustyc@microgear.net -----Original Message----- From: Sharon <sharander@home.com> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:50 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Confused about census now!!1 >I was pretty clear from all the discussion regarding how to fill out the census that we DID NOT have to be a tribal MEMBER in order to identify ourselves with our true heritage of American Indian. But the following message doesn't seem to say that - or am I misunderstanding?? This message which Alice says is from the Census Bureau says: > > " American Indian or Alaska Native -- A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment." > >Because they use the word "and" this links "American Indian or Alasks Native" to "tribal affiliation or comunity attachment" - meaning that in order to be an American Indian, you must have origins to original peoples AND you must have tribal affiliation or community attachment !!! > >I am really confused now - what should we who are Indian but are not tribal members do???. > > >Sharon > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Rlang90547@aol.com> >To: <FIVECIVILTRIB-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 4:42 PM >Subject: census reply > > >> >> I can't reply directly to the roots list, for >> some reason, can you send you this to Five >> Civilised Tribes List at roots, please? Finally >> got a reply from the census... >> Thank you. >> Alice >> __________________________________________________ > >> The 1997 standards for federal data can be viewed >> on the U.S. Census >> Bureau's home page at <http://www.census.gov>. >> From Subjects A to Z >> click on A for American Indian and Alaska Native >> areas population. >> Scroll down past number 4 and click on the first >> bullet under >> Issues for 2000 census. This document states: >> >> American Indian or Alaska Native -- A person >> having origins in any >> of the original peoples of North and South >> America (including Central >> America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or >> community attachment. >> >> You may also want to read the frequently asked >> questions about the upcoming >> census 2000. From the top of our home page click >> on Operations and then >> Frequently Asked Questions. >> >> If you have further questions, contact the census >> 2000 staff at >> <2000usa@census.gov>. >> >> Shirley B. Witcher >> pop@census.gov >> Statistical Information Staff >> Population Division >> U.S. Census Bureau >> 301-457-2422 >> www.census.gov >> >> >> ============================== >> Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >> http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >> Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >> > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

I was pretty clear from all the discussion regarding how to fill out the census that we DID NOT have to be a tribal MEMBER in order to identify ourselves with our true heritage of American Indian. But the following message doesn't seem to say that - or am I misunderstanding?? This message which Alice says is from the Census Bureau says: " American Indian or Alaska Native -- A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment." Because they use the word "and" this links "American Indian or Alasks Native" to "tribal affiliation or comunity attachment" - meaning that in order to be an American Indian, you must have origins to original peoples AND you must have tribal affiliation or community attachment !!! I am really confused now - what should we who are Indian but are not tribal members do???. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rlang90547@aol.com> To: <FIVECIVILTRIB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 4:42 PM Subject: census reply > > I can't reply directly to the roots list, for > some reason, can you send you this to Five > Civilised Tribes List at roots, please? Finally > got a reply from the census... > Thank you. > Alice > __________________________________________________ > The 1997 standards for federal data can be viewed > on the U.S. Census > Bureau's home page at <http://www.census.gov>. > From Subjects A to Z > click on A for American Indian and Alaska Native > areas population. > Scroll down past number 4 and click on the first > bullet under > Issues for 2000 census. This document states: > > American Indian or Alaska Native -- A person > having origins in any > of the original peoples of North and South > America (including Central > America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or > community attachment. > > You may also want to read the frequently asked > questions about the upcoming > census 2000. From the top of our home page click > on Operations and then > Frequently Asked Questions. > > If you have further questions, contact the census > 2000 staff at > <2000usa@census.gov>. > > Shirley B. Witcher > pop@census.gov > Statistical Information Staff > Population Division > U.S. Census Bureau > 301-457-2422 > www.census.gov > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

For more information on the Committe it is Archived (with the Bureas responses to the reccomendations) at: http://www.census.gov/dmd/www/dateaian.html RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CENSUS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON THE AMERICAN INDIAN AND ALASKA NATIVE POPULATIONS MADE AS A RESULT OF THE MEETINGS ON JULY 14-16, 1999 The Census Advisory Committee on the American Indian and Alaska Native Populations made the following recommendations to the Director, Bureau of the Census, during its meeting on July 15-16, 1999. Comments showing the responses and actions taken or to be taken by the Census Bureau accompany each recommendation. RECOMMENDATION 1 Contact Alaska Native Regional Corporations "The American Indian and Alaska Native (AIAN) Committee recommends that the state liaison in Alaska contact all Alaska Native Regional Corporations and provide them with information about the Year Census 2000, to assure that the Alaska Native population served by such Corporations will be counted during the census and that census data tabulations include the community served by these corporations." RECOMMENDATION 2 Expand Recruitment Efforts "The AIAN Committee recommends that the Census Bureau increase and expand its recruitment efforts in/or near American Indian communities to increase the number of American Indians employed at the Census Bureau. RECOMMENDATION 3 Camera- Ready Quality Images for Logos "The AIAN Committee recommends that the U.S. Census Bureau create camera-ready quality images of logos in varying sizes on one or two sheets of paper for use in locally-generated educational or promotional materials." RECOMMENDATION 4 Census 2000 Race Code List "The AIAN Committee recommends that the race code list be forwarded to all federal and state recognized tribal governments, major American Indian Advisory organizations, i.e.; National Congress of American Indians, National Indian Education Association, National American Indian Housing Council, as well as any other pertinent Indian associations. The Census Bureau should encourage and educate tribal leaders, liaisons and enumerators about the race code list and urge them to establish a standard list of tribal names for each federal and state recognized tribe. This will help educate the tribal members and enumerators as to what is recognized as a standard tribal name. The standard tribal name is necessary to help reduce the potential of tribal members writing the incorrect tribal name on the Census 2000 form." RECOMMENDATION 5 Implement Statistical Areas Program for AIAN Areas "The AIAN Committee recommends that proposed State Designated American Indian Statistical Areas (SDAISA) and the Tribal Jurisdictional Statistical Area (TJSA) programs be fully implemented. The program is currently being held up by the Census Bureau and further delay in finalizing this program may result in an undercount of American Indians who do not reside on reservations." RECOMMENDATION 6 Statement of Credit for Building Awareness Poster "The AIAN Committee recommends that the statement of credit for American Indian and Alaska Native Census 2000 posters read to reflect the following: 'The poster celebrates diversity in America by featuring one of the century's finest American Indian artists, Allan Houser, (1914 - 1994), a Chiricahua Apache.'" RECOMMENDATION 7 Develop Maps and Products for American Indians and Alaska Natives "The AIAN Committee recommends that the Geography division work with the tribes and data users to develop thematic maps and products on the American Indian and Alaska Native populations." RECOMMENDATION 8 Develop an American Indian and Alaska Native Atlas "The AIAN Committee recommends that the Census Bureau explore and plan the development of an American Indian and Alaska Native Atlas, including all American Indian and Alaska Native geography areas in one reference document and files that are accessible in electronic format through the Internet and CD-ROM." RECOMMENDATION 9 Curriculum on Census Geography and Data Products "The AIAN Committee recommends that the Geography division work with the tribes and data users to develop curriculum that explains census geography and the use of data products for tribal community development." RECOMMENDATION 10 Use of Indian Mascots "The AIAN Committee recommends that a policy on the use of degrading Indian mascots be mitigated by the omission of offending names, symbols, and logos with general references, e.g., the 'Washington Redskins' becomes the 'Washington D.C. Professional Football Team.'" RECOMMENDATION 11 Image for American Indian and Alaska Native Internet Page "The AIAN Committee hearby amends its recommendation No. 5 from the March 16-17, 1999, REAC meeting regarding the American Indian and Alaska Native Internet page use of Allan Houser's sculpture for the 'Building Awareness' poster. Instead, the simple Census 2000 Indian Logo should be used as a 'hot button'; however, this awareness poster and others to be developed may be placed in a sub-menu for public Internet view, including contact information on how to access the posters. This concept of 'marketing' the posters is applicable to all other race and ethnicity posters and promotional materials." RECOMMENDATION 12 Correction Factors for Adjusting the Count of American Indians and Alaska Natives "The AIAN Committee recommends that the Census Bureau thoroughly document and indicate the correction factors used to adjust the Census 2000 counts of American Indians and Alaska Natives. In particular, the correction factors applied to Urban Indian populations should be made explicit in all Census products where these data appear." RECOMMENDATION 13 Establish Permanent Tribal Liaison Office "The AIAN Committee recommends that the U.S. Census Bureau permanently establish the Tribal Liaison Office (TLO) program as well as some staffing of regional partnership specialists who work with tribes. This will ensure continuity through the next decennial census and support the development of the American Community Survey." -- André Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift)

Lisa: I show a Philip Colbert, Choctaw, lived in Atoka County in 1878 and voted in the 4th precinct there in 1883. There are several pages of Colberts so if there's another one you'd like me to check, its no problem. Some of the entries in this book are one-liners and some are 2-3 paragraphs. Barbara

Hi All: I'm trying to find the link between the ANDERSON/PAYNE family with the MONCRIEF family. I know they are related, but, not how. INDIAN POPULATION CENSUS OF 1910: Joseph ANDERSON, 55 yrs old - white - b in TX - F b in TN - M b in TX Margaret PAYNE, 47 yrs old - 1/16 Choctaw - b in IT - F b in MS - M b in MS Children below all b in IT Ray A. ANDERSON, 27 yrs old Willis E. ANDERSON, 25 yrs old Maxey M. ANDERSON, 21 yrs old Cynthia Payne ANDERSON, 17 yrs old Hazel L. ANDERSON, 13 yrs old I hope someone has more information on this family. Thanks, Sandi :)

OOPs sorry yall went out to wrong addy , Desiree ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.Smith" <ty@pics.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Gambell-Gambrell,Gamble? > Hi I have been on this list awhile just kinda of listening around now that I > feel better with no morning sickness (Yeah!) I thought I'd ask someone about > this family. Here's all I have > 1880 Marion co Ar. White River > Township > Gambell,Willam 28 wof Tn > Tn Tn > Sarah C. 24 wife Tn Tn Tn > Andrew J. 2 son Mo Tn TN > Eller 4/12 dau Feb. Mo > Tn TN > There was 4 of these children born Andrew, Eller, Thee or Theodore > and Hugh or Hughey. They where orphaned at and early age about the time > Eller would have been 4 to 6 yrs. > Eller is my husbands G. Grandmother I loose her here till 1900 where > she is listed with her husband Robert Charles (Boaz) Ford in Cherokee > Nation . > Now what gets me here is in 1910 there in McCurtain ,Co Okla. and Eller > which is Ella is listed as Cherokee but living around all Choctaw. > Heres that Census 1910 McCurtain,Co Okla. > > Ford Boaz Head M W 38 Tn TN Ill English Farmer > Ella Wife F In 31 Indiana or Indian? English > Farm laborer > > house farm > > Addie Daughter F In 11 > Martha Daughter F. In 8 > Blanche Daughter F IN 6 > Thomas son M 3 > Ethel Daughter F IN 1 > > Robert Charles ( Boaz) Ford is buried in McCurtain ,co somewhere and the > family moved to East Texas where many are still at today. This family would > love to find any information out about Eller that they could . We have never > found more than this . Please if anyone knows these names or can be of some > help please do. Eller was born Feb.1880 in Ark. she died Aug 16,1966 and > is buried in East Texas . We would love to find family . Thanks Darrell > And Desiree Smith > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Markie" <mlo99@bellsouth.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 2:47 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW] Family Group Sheets.... submit yours to web page!! > > > > Hi Everybody.. > > > > Well we have a new project under way. This was Fay's idea! Huh Fay? > > LOL.... Anyway I think it is a good one. Here's the deal. > > > > I have started a "Family Group Sheet" project for our web page. This is > > something that not only will help all of us, but others out there > > researching as well. > > > > Below you will find the instructions for submitting your Choctaw family > > group sheets. They will be searchable by a Surname Index page. Each > > persons name and e-mail address will be on each group sheet as the > > submitter. Making it easy to make contact with others searching your > > family line. > > > > You may need to print this message out to have the instructions in front > of > > you. Or they are on the sample page. which is linked "from" the home > > page. If you would like to view the sample page, visit: > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/blankfg.htm > > > > These online pages will be in the large format to make it easier for the > > ones who have trouble reading web pages due to their eye sight. BUT... > at > > the top of each page there will be a link to the "text" file, which you > can > > click your mouse on to view, and PRINT it out. > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > Instructions to submit your Family Group Sheets. > > By using your genealogy computer program, do ONE group sheet at a time. > > Save it as ASCII TEXT. You can then open this file in your word processor, > > or Note Pad. Copy and Paste the whole thing, placing it into an E-mail > > message to me, Markie <mlo99@bellsouth.net>. Place "GROUP SHEET" in the > > subject line. You are also welcome to attach the group sheet as a seperate > > file to the e-mail message. > > > > Please include a notation or star by the name of the person who is... > > > > CHOCTAW > > > > or...NAME WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT TRIBE, listing tribal name... Cherokee.. > > Creek.... etc. > > Example: Husband: John Doe..."Choctaw". Wife: Jane Doe.. "Cherokee". > > > > or...THOUGHT TO BE NATIVE AMERICAN by oral history. > > These notations will be very useful to anyone who will research your > family > > group sheet. > > > > Please include as many sources and documentation as possible. This page is > > an example, and the actual group sheet of your family will include as many > > children as you have. Which will be on your family group sheet page. > > > > >From the Front page of our web site, there will be a link to The Group > > Sheet Index page, All Family group sheets will be linked from the Index > page. > > > > ********************************************* > > > > As you send in your group sheets, I will be saving them in a special > folder > > I made, just for these submissions. I probably won't have time to > > respond to each person at the time I receive it, but when you view the web > > page, and IF your's is not there, then please contact me again about > yours. > > > > Thank you for being part of this very important Choctaw genealogy resource > > on the Internet. > > > > Thank you > > Markie > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

I started thinking yall may be having problems finding some of these people cause there in Indian Territory. So I hope these help, Desiree ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.Smith" <ty@pics.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Gambell-Gambrell,Gamble? > Hi I have been on this list awhile just kinda of listening around now that I > feel better with no morning sickness (Yeah!) I thought I'd ask someone about > this family. Here's all I have > 1880 Marion co Ar. White River > Township > Gambell,Willam 28 wof Tn > Tn Tn > Sarah C. 24 wife Tn Tn Tn > Andrew J. 2 son Mo Tn TN > Eller 4/12 dau Feb. Mo > Tn TN > There was 4 of these children born Andrew, Eller, Thee or Theodore > and Hugh or Hughey. They where orphaned at and early age about the time > Eller would have been 4 to 6 yrs. > Eller is my husbands G. Grandmother I loose her here till 1900 where > she is listed with her husband Robert Charles (Boaz) Ford in Cherokee > Nation . > Now what gets me here is in 1910 there in McCurtain ,Co Okla. and Eller > which is Ella is listed as Cherokee but living around all Choctaw. > Heres that Census 1910 McCurtain,Co Okla. > > Ford Boaz Head M W 38 Tn TN Ill English Farmer > Ella Wife F In 31 Indiana or Indian? English > Farm laborer > > house farm > > Addie Daughter F In 11 > Martha Daughter F. In 8 > Blanche Daughter F IN 6 > Thomas son M 3 > Ethel Daughter F IN 1 > > Robert Charles ( Boaz) Ford is buried in McCurtain ,co somewhere and the > family moved to East Texas where many are still at today. This family would > love to find any information out about Eller that they could . We have never > found more than this . Please if anyone knows these names or can be of some > help please do. Eller was born Feb.1880 in Ark. she died Aug 16,1966 and > is buried in East Texas . We would love to find family . Thanks Darrell > And Desiree Smith > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Markie" <mlo99@bellsouth.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 2:47 AM > Subject: [CHOCTAW] Family Group Sheets.... submit yours to web page!! > > > > Hi Everybody.. > > > > Well we have a new project under way. This was Fay's idea! Huh Fay? > > LOL.... Anyway I think it is a good one. Here's the deal. > > > > I have started a "Family Group Sheet" project for our web page. This is > > something that not only will help all of us, but others out there > > researching as well. > > > > Below you will find the instructions for submitting your Choctaw family > > group sheets. They will be searchable by a Surname Index page. Each > > persons name and e-mail address will be on each group sheet as the > > submitter. Making it easy to make contact with others searching your > > family line. > > > > You may need to print this message out to have the instructions in front > of > > you. Or they are on the sample page. which is linked "from" the home > > page. If you would like to view the sample page, visit: > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/blankfg.htm > > > > These online pages will be in the large format to make it easier for the > > ones who have trouble reading web pages due to their eye sight. BUT... > at > > the top of each page there will be a link to the "text" file, which you > can > > click your mouse on to view, and PRINT it out. > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > Instructions to submit your Family Group Sheets. > > By using your genealogy computer program, do ONE group sheet at a time. > > Save it as ASCII TEXT. You can then open this file in your word processor, > > or Note Pad. Copy and Paste the whole thing, placing it into an E-mail > > message to me, Markie <mlo99@bellsouth.net>. Place "GROUP SHEET" in the > > subject line. You are also welcome to attach the group sheet as a seperate > > file to the e-mail message. > > > > Please include a notation or star by the name of the person who is... > > > > CHOCTAW > > > > or...NAME WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT TRIBE, listing tribal name... Cherokee.. > > Creek.... etc. > > Example: Husband: John Doe..."Choctaw". Wife: Jane Doe.. "Cherokee". > > > > or...THOUGHT TO BE NATIVE AMERICAN by oral history. > > These notations will be very useful to anyone who will research your > family > > group sheet. > > > > Please include as many sources and documentation as possible. This page is > > an example, and the actual group sheet of your family will include as many > > children as you have. Which will be on your family group sheet page. > > > > >From the Front page of our web site, there will be a link to The Group > > Sheet Index page, All Family group sheets will be linked from the Index > page. > > > > ********************************************* > > > > As you send in your group sheets, I will be saving them in a special > folder > > I made, just for these submissions. I probably won't have time to > > respond to each person at the time I receive it, but when you view the web > > page, and IF your's is not there, then please contact me again about > yours. > > > > Thank you for being part of this very important Choctaw genealogy resource > > on the Internet. > > > > Thank you > > Markie > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Hi I have been on this list awhile just kinda of listening around now that I feel better with no morning sickness (Yeah!) I thought I'd ask someone about this family. Here's all I have 1880 Marion co Ar. White River Township Gambell,Willam 28 wof Tn Tn Tn Sarah C. 24 wife Tn Tn Tn Andrew J. 2 son Mo Tn TN Eller 4/12 dau Feb. Mo Tn TN There was 4 of these children born Andrew, Eller, Thee or Theodore and Hugh or Hughey. They where orphaned at and early age about the time Eller would have been 4 to 6 yrs. Eller is my husbands G. Grandmother I loose her here till 1900 where she is listed with her husband Robert Charles (Boaz) Ford in Cherokee Nation . Now what gets me here is in 1910 there in McCurtain ,Co Okla. and Eller which is Ella is listed as Cherokee but living around all Choctaw. Heres that Census 1910 McCurtain,Co Okla. Ford Boaz Head M W 38 Tn TN Ill English Farmer Ella Wife F In 31 Indiana or Indian? English Farm laborer house farm Addie Daughter F In 11 Martha Daughter F. In 8 Blanche Daughter F IN 6 Thomas son M 3 Ethel Daughter F IN 1 Robert Charles ( Boaz) Ford is buried in McCurtain ,co somewhere and the family moved to East Texas where many are still at today. This family would love to find any information out about Eller that they could . We have never found more than this . Please if anyone knows these names or can be of some help please do. Eller was born Feb.1880 in Ark. she died Aug 16,1966 and is buried in East Texas . We would love to find family . Thanks Darrell And Desiree Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markie" <mlo99@bellsouth.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 2:47 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Family Group Sheets.... submit yours to web page!! > Hi Everybody.. > > Well we have a new project under way. This was Fay's idea! Huh Fay? > LOL.... Anyway I think it is a good one. Here's the deal. > > I have started a "Family Group Sheet" project for our web page. This is > something that not only will help all of us, but others out there > researching as well. > > Below you will find the instructions for submitting your Choctaw family > group sheets. They will be searchable by a Surname Index page. Each > persons name and e-mail address will be on each group sheet as the > submitter. Making it easy to make contact with others searching your > family line. > > You may need to print this message out to have the instructions in front of > you. Or they are on the sample page. which is linked "from" the home > page. If you would like to view the sample page, visit: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/blankfg.htm > > These online pages will be in the large format to make it easier for the > ones who have trouble reading web pages due to their eye sight. BUT... at > the top of each page there will be a link to the "text" file, which you can > click your mouse on to view, and PRINT it out. > > ******************************************************************* > > Instructions to submit your Family Group Sheets. > By using your genealogy computer program, do ONE group sheet at a time. > Save it as ASCII TEXT. You can then open this file in your word processor, > or Note Pad. Copy and Paste the whole thing, placing it into an E-mail > message to me, Markie <mlo99@bellsouth.net>. Place "GROUP SHEET" in the > subject line. You are also welcome to attach the group sheet as a seperate > file to the e-mail message. > > Please include a notation or star by the name of the person who is... > > CHOCTAW > > or...NAME WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT TRIBE, listing tribal name... Cherokee.. > Creek.... etc. > Example: Husband: John Doe..."Choctaw". Wife: Jane Doe.. "Cherokee". > > or...THOUGHT TO BE NATIVE AMERICAN by oral history. > These notations will be very useful to anyone who will research your family > group sheet. > > Please include as many sources and documentation as possible. This page is > an example, and the actual group sheet of your family will include as many > children as you have. Which will be on your family group sheet page. > > >From the Front page of our web site, there will be a link to The Group > Sheet Index page, All Family group sheets will be linked from the Index page. > > ********************************************* > > As you send in your group sheets, I will be saving them in a special folder > I made, just for these submissions. I probably won't have time to > respond to each person at the time I receive it, but when you view the web > page, and IF your's is not there, then please contact me again about yours. > > Thank you for being part of this very important Choctaw genealogy resource > on the Internet. > > Thank you > Markie > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > >