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    1. [CHOCTAW] Chickasaw History According to Malcom McGee
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    03/20/2000 10:45:35
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Intruders
    2. Dear Cousin Nalora: You are not too long winded. Not to worry. I am enjoying this little repartee and I am learning a lot. Keep it coming, we all need educating. As the years go by, it is easy to forget how bad things really were (and this from a right-wing conservative-type person). Goodness, we have made a mess of our Indian policy, if there every was a policy other than shoot to kill. Thanks for all your efforts. Cousin David in El Paso

    03/20/2000 10:29:48
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Intruders
    2. Doug Barkley
    3. GBBeckIII@aol.com wrote: > What I am hearing is that today in this country -- There are alien's who have correctly applied to be here and they have a Permit -- so while they are still alien's (not citizen's) they aren't illegal. (And there are alien's who don't have a permit (or visa) and they are illegal aliens.) I'm not sure I understand this but I think your right. > I am assuming that if a non citizen was in the Nations with a permit, that the non citizen would still be called an intruder? Is this right? This is true, any non-citizen was considered an intruder. This is evidenced by the permit lists that were made by the various counties. The term intruder should not be a negative term. The purpose of the intruder was to work the farms of the Indians in Indian Territory, after the Civil War. Many of the mixed-blood Indians had huge farms and ranches and needed help in planting and harvesting. Later they sharecropped. If you notice the farm owner usually had several farms and several renters. Some traders had National trader licenses and some had county licenses. I am working on a web page that answers some of the FAQs concerning life in Indian Territory. Doug

    03/20/2000 09:44:45
    1. [CHOCTAW] Intruders in general
    2. Nalora
    3. Oh, one last thing to consider Historically, is the Civil War and the great influx of "refugees" from the reconstruction south that travelled to the Territory. This multiplied the problem of too darn many people coming into the Nations without permission to be there. Nalora

    03/20/2000 09:24:32
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Tribe name?????
    2. Was interested about tubee as the soundex code from the rootsweb converter for TIPPY = T100 and other surnames sharing this soundex code were; TAFFEE, TAPP, TOBEY and TUBB. In "Chicksaw History According to Malom McGee" Which I will send immediately after this, Tippah means To eat one another, and Lappatubbee means the buck killer. Can anyone confirm this? I am trying to find the origins of the Tippy name James Tippy

    03/20/2000 09:19:16
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Intruders
    2. Nalora
    3. At 12:57 PM 3/20/00 EST, you wrote: >What I am hearing is that today in this country -- There are alien's who have correctly applied to be here and they have a Permit -- so while they are still alien's (not citizen's) they aren't illegal. (And there are alien's who don't have a permit (or visa) and they are illegal aliens.) > >I am assuming that if a non citizen was in the Nations with a permit, that the non citizen would still be called an intruder? Is this right? I have never seen a person with a permit to be in the Indian Nations CALLED an intruder once he had the permit in hand. When the intruder problem arose, there were many in the Nation that essentially were just THERE. Certainly, some that were put on the Intruder lists were there legally, but had not PROVED it yet to the authorities. In the compilations by Sharron, she includes many of the different ways in which a person was in the Nations, the various microfilms available to those seeking people in the Indian Nations BEFORE DAWES, and OUTSIDE OF DAWES, and people who had some kind of paperwork filed with the Indian Courts to establish themselves LEGALLY in the Nation. An analogy would be: A person who came to the US illegally, but once here establishes residency, goes through Emigration (the courts) and BECOMES legal. Another analogy from my own family: My great great grandfather hauled freight into Indian Territory from about 1870 to 1903, before about 1875, he did not need a permit to do this, he hauled goods to the various trading posts and forts---No problem. After the courts were finally getting it together in the Indian Nations he suddenly found himself hauling freight ILLEGALLY in the Nations til he got a permit to do so. There was also the added problem in the Indian Nations that the Indian Governments had NO JURISDICTION over US Citizens within their borders. Confused? Of COURSE YOU ARE. Not to go into an entire history of the Judicial systems in the Nations and the US here, but if you follow a time line from 1818 to about 1875 and watch what happened to the Territory, you can see how totally strange it must have been. At one time early on you had The United States, Indiana, Arkansas Territory, and the Indian Nations all overlapping jurisdiction!!! Holy smokes! Reminds one of some kind of keystone cops movie! Nanny-Nanny-boo-boo-you-can't-touch-me kind of thing. I could get long winded about this whole thing, and probably wax philosophical and get into some real trouble; but just an overview of the Judicial system in Oklahoma would answer your question, without you having to study Oklahoma History in depth. Here is the postive thing about it: With all those governments and courts there was a lot of paperwork, and maybe your kin is on one of those slips of paper. Another positive thing, was that our 1890 census was not burned! haha! (We weren't a state, and kept those censuses to ourselves--and there were many! 1890 census for Oklahoma Territory, 1890 Census for Choctaw Nation, 1895 Census Chickasaw Nation...there were CITY censuses to estabish the "Class of City"...just tons and tons and tons of papers...And in some cases....some far-seeing individual said: We need to preserve these records. How nice.) Gads. I did get long winded. scuse me. Nalora

    03/20/2000 09:16:58
    1. [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Trisha
    2. Nalora
    3. Trisha: Still working on others, (and gardening, and doing my own transcription work) However, yours is an easy one. There are not any COLLIER in my Indians and Intruders books. Here are the DAWES, just in case you have not been able to search there yet. Dawes Final Rolls The Native American Collection, GenRef, Inc. and the Oklahoma Historical Society Bld Census Enroll. Surname Given Name(s) Age Sex % Cd # Page Number Tribe Collier, Abraham, 24, Male, 1-4, CC# 9197 Page 366, Enr# 21004 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Alice M., 4, Female, 1-16, CC# 2752 Page 421, Enr# 30130 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Arthur, 55, Male, , CC# 1438 Page 471, Enr# 135 Cherokees - by Intermarriage Collier, Bettie, 34, Female, 1-8, CC# 2752 Page 421, Enr# 30126 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Charles A., 31, Male, 3-8, CC# 5157 Page 314, Enr# 12369 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Charlotte, 8, Female, 1-16, CC# 2756 Page 281, Enr# 7002 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Eliza E., 3, Female, 1-16, CC# 1009 Page 444, Enr# 1004 Cherokees - by Blood (Minors) Collier, Flora, 22, Female, 1-4, CC# 3769 Page 294, Enr# 9121 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Harmon, 2, Male, 3-8, CC# 172 Page 439, Enr# 179 Cherokees - by Blood (Minors) Collier, Hattie M., 7, Female, 1-32, CC# 1438 Page 263, Enr# 3918 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Jasper N., 6, Male, 1-16, CC# 2752 Page 421, Enr# 30129 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Jesse, 15, Male, 1-32, CC# 1438 Page 263, Enr# 3917 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Joseph S., 18, Male, 1-32, CC# 1438 Page 263, Enr# 3916 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Kate, 20, Female, 1-4, CC# 3769 Page 294, Enr# 9122 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Lettie, 31, Female, 1-8, CC# 2756 Page 281, Enr# 7001 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Lulu B., 1, Female, 1-16, CC# 1009 Page 444, Enr# 1005 Cherokees - by Blood (Minors) Collier, Mack, 24, Male, 1-4, CC# 9918 Page 396, Enr# 26088 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Maddie, 1, Female, 5-8, CC# 3455 Page 467, Enr# 4645 Cherokees - by Blood (Minors) Collier, Martha, 19, Female, 1-4, CC# 4455 Page 74, Enr# 12372 Choctaws - by Blood Collier, Missouri A., 8, Female, 1-16, CC# 2752 Page 421, Enr# 30128 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Oma, 1, Female, 1-8, CC# 4455 Page 74, Enr# 12378 Choctaws - by Blood Collier, Richard, 23, Male, 1-16, CC# 1576 Page 265, Enr# 4218 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, Thomas Scruggs, 1, Male, 1-8, CC# 1334 Page 105, Enr# 1178 Choctaws - by Blood (New Borns) Collier, William A., 1, Male, 1-16, CC# 2752 Page 421, Enr# 30131 Cherokees - by Blood Collier, William E., 4, Male, 1-16, CC# 2756 Page 281, Enr# 7003 Cherokees - by Blood Dawes Final Rolls - Rejected The Native American Collection, GenRef, Inc. and the Oklahoma Historical Society Bld Census Enroll. Surname Given Name(s) Age Sex % Cd # Page Number Tribe Collier, Pollie, 42, Female, 1-16, CC# 1438 Page 263, Enr# 3915 Cherokees - by Blood Nalora

    03/20/2000 08:41:33
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Shari
    2. Nalora
    3. Shari: Permits were given to people who had no tribal affiliation, for the most part. It cost the Choctaw nation 225 bucks a pop to have an intruder "ousted", (Your government at work. the Catch 22 I was talking about) Many people, eventually, were allowed to remain merely because they were not doing any harm, or were actually productive. By the time DAWES rolled around, tribal affiliations were more clear cut, but it marked the end of idea of autonomous Nations for the FCT. Nalora

    03/20/2000 08:33:34
    1. [CHOCTAW] Indians and Intruders
    2. Scott and Trisha Neal
    3. Nalora, could you stand another "look up," please? I'm looking for some connection to my great-grandmother; her last name was supposedly Collier. Many thanks, Trisha

    03/20/2000 08:03:15
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Shari
    2. Shari Jones
    3. Nalora, Thank you so much for the lookup. I am pulling hair on this family. Three of William Edward's children married into the Choctaw Tribe. This is what leads me to believe that he was in the Nation also. I know that there is a very prominant Jones family that was Choctaw. If William Edward was kin to this family in some way and came to the Nation because of this kinship would he have been issued a permit? Or were the permits issued only to people that had no affiliation whatsoever with any of the tribes? Thanks, Shari >From: Nalora <vashti@theshop.net> >Reply-To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com >To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Shari >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:16:04 -0600 > >Shari, > >No William Edward JONES, however a William JONES is shown as a signer of a >document in Choctaw Nation Indian Territory Marriages [Doc#17882] >Permission for G. D. DUNCAN to marry Anna BATTICE. This is the document in >Indians and Intruders Vol 2 by Ashton that is photocopied for the book as >an example of the documents on microfilm. > >In Volume 1 there are several entries that might interest you; > >William JONES is listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation, >Skullyville County, Pocola, IT PO, claims to have been in the Nation 4 >years and claims citizenship. > >There is also a W. B. JONES listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw >Nation, Skullyville County, Fort Smith, ARK PO, There are 4 in the family >and he claims to have been in the Nation 10 years, and is a renter. (I >include this one because a written B could look like an E) > > >Nalora > > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    03/20/2000 06:17:05
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Intruders
    2. What I am hearing is that today in this country -- There are alien's who have correctly applied to be here and they have a Permit -- so while they are still alien's (not citizen's) they aren't illegal. (And there are alien's who don't have a permit (or visa) and they are illegal aliens.) I am assuming that if a non citizen was in the Nations with a permit, that the non citizen would still be called an intruder? Is this right? > These were Intruders in the truest sense, however, they did not have to be > illegal to be an intruder. > Doug > > Nalora wrote: > > > Doug, > > > > What do you call a non-citizen in a Nation without permission to be there? > > Someone who has not been established as a citizen of that Nation, nor has a > > permit allowing him to be in that Nation? > > > > What do you call a person who must be forceably removed from a Nation by > > ANOTHER Nation's police force? (Since the Indian Nations had no > > jurisdiction over US Citizens "intruding" in their territory, they had to > > PAY the US a "bounty" to have the US remove them.) > > > > What do you call a person who has complaint papers (Intruder papers) filed > > against them with a Nation's courts asking they be removed from that Nation > > as Intruders? > > > > I would call that an illegal alien, myself. > > > > Nalora > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/

    03/20/2000 05:57:45
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Sandi - JOHNSON
    2. Hi Nalora: Thanks for all your work. My JOHNSONs were all Choctaw so I think there were no hits. Darn! Best, Sandi :)

    03/20/2000 05:54:40
    1. [CHOCTAW] Concerning Census Questions
    2. Andre P. Cramblit
    3. Concerning Census Questions From: "Betti Bresette" <BettiBresette@Dreamsoft.com> The information here isn't all together true and factual. I am a sworn volunteer working for the US Census Bureau assisting in getting as many possible to stand up and be counted. I am an in house worker working at California Indian Manpower. We are an authorized QAC (question and answer center) working with American Indian Communities and Reservations. Enumerators are hired to go out and help people complete their census forms if they are not received by April 14th. Some tribes have their own QAC centers established and are doing their own counts. For those that do not enumerators hired by the Census Bureau will be sent to help with questions and to collect the forms. The Census will not be a count of city and urban folk. Reservations will also be counted. The only people who will not be counted are those that do not wish to fill out the form. Even then an enumerator will come out to see if there was a problem or if you just wish to be left out of the count. There are two forms. A long and a short form. Although the more information that is given the needs of specific areas become more apparent. That is why they ask housing questions, employment questions, and question how you get to work. Local Agencies and governments can better see the needs of their people, such as housing, transportation, programs for the elderly, low income, etc. The gathering of this information is to obtain funds and grants where needed, but some feel the long form is too intrusive. By law all you are actually required to give is your name, but if you only do this you are not helping the cause. You can leave blank any questions that you do not feel comfortable filling out. If anyone needs a list of American Indian QAC centers available in California I can post them. There is an 800 number on your census form. You can call and ask for the closest American Indian QAC center to you or ask for help over the phone. You can also ask that someone come to your home to help fill out your questionaire. QAC centers are available for American Indians, Latino's, Hispanics, Chinese, Vietnamese, Afro American's, Cubans, and yes, whites. I hope I helped clarify things. B. Bres -- André Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift)

    03/20/2000 03:25:26
    1. [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Shari
    2. Nalora
    3. Shari, No William Edward JONES, however a William JONES is shown as a signer of a document in Choctaw Nation Indian Territory Marriages [Doc#17882] Permission for G. D. DUNCAN to marry Anna BATTICE. This is the document in Indians and Intruders Vol 2 by Ashton that is photocopied for the book as an example of the documents on microfilm. In Volume 1 there are several entries that might interest you; William JONES is listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation, Skullyville County, Pocola, IT PO, claims to have been in the Nation 4 years and claims citizenship. There is also a W. B. JONES listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation, Skullyville County, Fort Smith, ARK PO, There are 4 in the family and he claims to have been in the Nation 10 years, and is a renter. (I include this one because a written B could look like an E) Nalora

    03/20/2000 02:16:04
    1. [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Sandi
    2. Nalora
    3. Sandi, Here is the digested list of JOHNSON you asked for. >There are 17 JOHNSON listed in Vol 1, and I will only list the first names here: Alfred, Charles, Henry, John, Sarah, Tom B., William, William E.. Alfred JOHNSON is listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation, Kiamitia County. He claims citizenship, has been in the territory 5 years, and is colored. Charles JOHNSON is listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation, Towson County, there are 8 people in his household, he lives near Wheelock, IT, and he is black. Henry JOHNSON is listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation, Sugar Loaf County, Monroe, IT and claims citizenship. John JOHNSON is listed in the 1860 Indian Territory Slave Schedules, Cole County, Choctaw Nation, page 24, he has 15 slaves, 7 are black and 8 are mulatto. Sarah JOHNSON is listed in the 1860 Indian Territory Slave Schedules, Cole County, Choctaw Nation, page 25 She has one slave, black. Tom B. JOHNSON is listed in the 1860 Indian Territory Slave Schedules, Cole County, Choctaw Nation, page 23, 1 slave, black. with the additional note that he lives in Perryville. William JOHNSON is listed in the 1860 Indian Territory Slave Schedules, Blue County, Choctaw Nation, page 18, 2 slaves, 1 black, 1 mulatto. William JOHNSON is listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation, Skullyville County, Green Hill Ark. PO, 2 in his family, claims to have been in the Nation 2 years and is a renter. William E. JOHNSON is listed in the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation, Skullyville, Pocola IT PO, 3 in the family, claims to have been in the Nation 1 year and is a hireling. >Once again I will merely list the first names of the JOHNSON in Vol 2: >Dave, James, Jas. M., John F., Sarah. Dave JOHNSON is listed in the Choctaw Nation Divorce records, 08 July 1904 Sarah JOHNSON To Circuit judge, 2nd District, Petition for Divorce from Dave JOHNSON, a Creek indian, [Doc#16183] James JOHNSON is listed in the Choctaw Nation Divorce records, 16 May 1899 Belinty JOHNSON, Nashoba County, to Judge 2nd District, Petition for Divorce from James JOHNSON, [Doc#16020] Jas M. JOHNSON is listed in the Records of marriage in the Cherokee Nation, 1869-1895 11 Apr 1873 Jas. ALLISON et al, Sequoyah District, Recommending license be issued to Jas M. JOHNSON and Nancy Purdoe. [Doc#1293] John M. JOHNSON is listed in the Records of Marriage in the Cherokee Nation, 1869-1895 03 Jul 1875 US Citizen to Clerk, Sequoyah District. Application for license to marry [Doc#1302] Nalora

    03/20/2000 01:53:49
    1. [CHOCTAW] Unsubscribe
    2. Jo Dorame
    3. Sorry I will be away from my computer for awhile. I will reup later and post my Choctaw ancestors again. thanks Jo B Dorame

    03/20/2000 01:25:08
    1. [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Sharon
    2. Nalora
    3. Sharon, Let me see if I can answer these individually. >1. Vol. 1, James in Towson Co could be my James. This is the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation List. It is found in L2481-1883 Record Group 75. Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. >2. Vol. 1, William H. Anderson burial at Fort Supply. This is a compilation of Fort Supply, Compiled Cemetary records Box 1095 and Fort Supply-Consolodated file-records of teh Office of the Quartermaster General (Record Group 92) and Records of the Adjutant General's office (Record Group 94) National Archives. (On Microfilm at the Archives) >3. Vol 1., Jackson King in Cherokee Nation Permits - you've listed Doc #2538. Where would I go to find this document? This Document is found in the Index of Cherokee National Records from the office of Superintendent of Five Civilized Tribes, Muskogee. (On Microfilm at the Archives) >4. Vol 1., William KING in 1860 IT slave schedules, Jacks Forks County. Is there a document # for this one? The Slave Schedules are similar to a "census", they are not individual documents, so they do not have a document number. They are included in the Population Schedules of the Eighth census of the United States, Schedule 2, Slave Inhabitants, Chickasaw and Choctaw Indian lands West of Arkansas. M653 Roll 54. There is another Roll that Sharron did not abstract and that is M653 Roll 52, which is Schedule 1, near the end of the roll. >5. Vol 2, Could I get details on J.E., Thos, and W.E. ANDERSON? J. E. ANDERSON appears as a Probate Judge in {Doc#6899] 21 July 1880 Tishomingo County, Chickasaw Nation. The microfilm is of the Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory Court Records. (Microfilmed, at the Archives) Thos. ANDERSON 1 May 1886 et. al, Roscoe, MO. Recommending B. F. HENDERSON as being a good man. [Doc#31394] Creek Nation Liscenses and Permits 1875-1895 (Microfilm, at the Archives) W. E. ANDERSON 21 August 1896 W. E. Anderson, et al, citizens by blood of Choctaw Nation. To D. F. Wade, County Clerk, Jackson county, Choctaw Nation. Certificate that they have known G. D. DUNCAN for 12 months and that he is a man of good moral character; requesting that he be granted a marriage license to wed Miss Anna BATTICE; endorsement: Granted this 21 Day of Aug 1896 D. F. WADE, clerk. [Doc#17882] Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory marriages, 1889-1898. (Microfilm, at the Archives) >6. Vol 2, could I get details on Lizzie, J.A., and Wm. KING? Lizzie KING 07 May 1905 Mosholatubbee District Court records in the Case of Lizzie KING vs Mack KING for divorce. [Docs# 16209 #16213 #16214] Choctaw Nation Divorce records (1875-1905) Microfilm, at the archive J. A. KING 17 June 1896 J. A. KING to US To D. F. WADE, Clerk, Jackson County, Choctaw Nation, Application for marriage to wed Mrs. Jane DWIGHT, citizen of the Choctaw Nation; J. A. KING recommended as a good man of good morals, by D. A. RIDDLE, et al, citizens of the Choctaw Nation by blood; endorsement: Granted this 13th day of Aug 1896 D. F. WADE, clerk JCCN. [Doc#17880] Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory Marriages 1889-1898 Microfilm, at the archive. Wm KING 08 May 1900 To Circuit Judge, Mosholatubbee District, Petition for divorce from Nellie KING [Doc#16040] Choctaw Nation Divorce Records, 1875-1905 microfilmed, at the archive Nalora

    03/20/2000 12:32:16
    1. [CHOCTAW] Fw: My daughter Carla Sanchez
    2. Jacque Hopkins Wolski
    3. Forwarding to lists as she is not a subscriber. IF you can help her, please email Michelle directly. Thanks Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: Michele and Nick <Bathory_MN@email.msn.com> To: <hopkinsj@ida.net> Cc: <annakuegeler@hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 6:05 AM Subject: My daughter Carla Sanchez > My daughter's grandmother and great-grandmother are Choctaw. > They lived on the reservation in Oklahoma. > We are trying to find out her tribe number to register her. Her > great-grandmothers name is Utana Collier and her grandmothers name is Lahoma > Collier. Or the last name is Caller. Lahoma's brother still lives in > Oklahoma but I don't know his name. What information do I need to get to > find out how to register Carla? > Thank-you Anna > > >

    03/20/2000 12:29:03
    1. [CHOCTAW] Fw:
    2. Jacque Hopkins Wolski
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Douglas To: hopkinsj@ida.net Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 11:14 AM How do we find out where the rolls are? I'm looking for a Norman or Johnniee Wilson. Thanks Frank Douglas

    03/19/2000 11:52:03
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Sharon
    2. Sharon
    3. Nalora, Thank you so much for taking the time to give me these details - it is very much appreciated. I am going to view the sources for these and keeping my fingers crossed that these are my relatives. Thanks again for all your time! Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nalora" <vashti@theshop.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 5:32 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Intruders: Sharon > Sharon, > > Let me see if I can answer these individually. > > >1. Vol. 1, James in Towson Co could be my James. > > This is the 1882 Intruders in the Choctaw Nation List. It is found in > L2481-1883 Record Group 75. Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. > > >2. Vol. 1, William H. Anderson burial at Fort Supply. > > This is a compilation of Fort Supply, Compiled Cemetary records Box 1095 > and Fort Supply-Consolodated file-records of teh Office of the > Quartermaster General (Record Group 92) and Records of the Adjutant > General's office (Record Group 94) National Archives. (On Microfilm at the > Archives) > > >3. Vol 1., Jackson King in Cherokee Nation Permits - you've listed Doc > #2538. Where would I go to find this document? > > This Document is found in the Index of Cherokee National Records from the > office of Superintendent of Five Civilized Tribes, Muskogee. (On Microfilm > at the Archives) > > >4. Vol 1., William KING in 1860 IT slave schedules, Jacks Forks County. > Is there a document # for this one? > > The Slave Schedules are similar to a "census", they are not individual > documents, so they do not have a document number. > They are included in the Population Schedules of the Eighth census of the > United States, Schedule 2, Slave Inhabitants, Chickasaw and Choctaw Indian > lands West of Arkansas. M653 Roll 54. There is another Roll that Sharron > did not abstract and that is M653 Roll 52, which is Schedule 1, near the > end of the roll. > > > >5. Vol 2, Could I get details on J.E., Thos, and W.E. ANDERSON? > > J. E. ANDERSON appears as a Probate Judge in {Doc#6899] 21 July 1880 > Tishomingo County, Chickasaw Nation. The microfilm is of the Chickasaw > Nation, Indian Territory Court Records. (Microfilmed, at the Archives) > > Thos. ANDERSON 1 May 1886 et. al, Roscoe, MO. Recommending B. F. HENDERSON > as being a good man. [Doc#31394] Creek Nation Liscenses and Permits > 1875-1895 (Microfilm, at the Archives) > > W. E. ANDERSON 21 August 1896 W. E. Anderson, et al, citizens by blood of > Choctaw Nation. To D. F. Wade, County Clerk, Jackson county, Choctaw > Nation. Certificate that they have known G. D. DUNCAN for 12 months and > that he is a man of good moral character; requesting that he be granted a > marriage license to wed Miss Anna BATTICE; endorsement: Granted this 21 Day > of Aug 1896 D. F. WADE, clerk. [Doc#17882] Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory > marriages, 1889-1898. (Microfilm, at the Archives) > > > >6. Vol 2, could I get details on Lizzie, J.A., and Wm. KING? > > Lizzie KING 07 May 1905 Mosholatubbee District Court records in the Case > of Lizzie KING vs Mack KING for divorce. [Docs# 16209 #16213 #16214] > Choctaw Nation Divorce records (1875-1905) Microfilm, at the archive > > J. A. KING 17 June 1896 J. A. KING to US To D. F. WADE, Clerk, Jackson > County, Choctaw Nation, Application for marriage to wed Mrs. Jane DWIGHT, > citizen of the Choctaw Nation; J. A. KING recommended as a good man of good > morals, by D. A. RIDDLE, et al, citizens of the Choctaw Nation by blood; > endorsement: Granted this 13th day of Aug 1896 D. F. WADE, clerk JCCN. > [Doc#17880] Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory Marriages 1889-1898 Microfilm, > at the archive. > > > Wm KING 08 May 1900 To Circuit Judge, Mosholatubbee District, Petition for > divorce from Nellie KING [Doc#16040] Choctaw Nation Divorce Records, > 1875-1905 microfilmed, at the archive > > > Nalora > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

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