Sandi: Well said! Sandi :)

Hi Nalora: Welcome back to the list Girl! You've got a lot of friends here and not just because of all of the help you've given to others. You are respected for being you, a caring human being with a very warm heart. Love, Sandi :)

>Every November is National Native American Month. Perhaps if we all became This is what I was thinking...Don't we have an entire MONTH sometime? What would really be neato-nifty-keen is if we could start something that would be a recognition of each tribe, say: Pushmataha Day, Tishomingo Day, Sequoyah Day...Keokuk Day.... (May 5 is National Nurse's Day, btw) Nalora

defender1 <defender1@snet.net> writes: << I would love a day of recognition for all Native Americans. >> drakes@seark.net writes: <<How do we make that happen?>> Every November is National Native American Month. Perhaps if we all became more involved in our communities in promoting Native America, in the schools, whatever clubs, groups, we belong to, we could work toward a National Day celebrating the American Indians. It would take a concentrated effort from *all* the Peoples to put forth the recognition, but it could work.

The Day of National Recognition is a wonderful idea--long overdue. And Hello Nalora!! I'm so happy and relieved that you're back!! -----Original Message----- From: Wrenest25@aol.com <Wrenest25@aol.com> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 23, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] National Recognition Day >Hi >I think that is a great idea and I think we should all work toward having a >day of National Recognition. >Jenny > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma > >

We should call our Congressman,write our Congressman,same with state legislators and the President and when possible have a public event asking them to give us a day of recognition Jenny

Nalora I am so glad you are back with us,I don't speak up much but I enjoy this group and I have learned alot from ya'll. When I first started my search I always called myself Native American and I do not know what is right I just am proud of who my ancestors were and that they survived so I could be here today. I do not find Indian offensive,I am proud of my Indian blood as I know all of you are too Jenny

Hi I think that is a great idea and I think we should all work toward having a day of National Recognition. Jenny

I would love a day of recognition for all Native Americans.

Nalora, I'm glad you're back!!!!!! Kelli ----- Original Message ----- From: Nalora <vashti@theshop.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 8:39 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Good Morning > First let me say, I have returned, after an evening of sorrow, but with > comfort from all of the kind words I recieved from all of you. Pardon me if > I wax philosophical for a moment, but it is my way. I tend to see the world > with philosophical slant. > > First some background on me personally, so if you are prone to a judgement > of me, you do so with some formal data. > > I am 43 years old, I was born in Shawnee, Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma, > and I have lived in Oklahoma City since I was 6 months old. I have had a > "rough life". At the age of 13, (1969) I left home and "became a hippie". I > remained on the streets until 1974, crossing the United States many times, > in my search for "life's meaning". This time in my life taught me a great > deal about prejudice and hatred. It also began my understanding of how > people use words to hurt other people. > > We give words power. Words are nothing without intent. The master, Jesus, > once said that forgiveness is not forgiveness unless we forgive with our > hearts. This is a true saying. The words "I am sorry." have no meaning > without the intent. > > I began to think on my travels about the idea of profanity. I realized that > there is no arrangement of letters that are profane. Only the intent to > defile something sacred is profane. We teach our children that the word has > power, when it is really the heart expressing the word. External blame. We > are all prone to it. Look at how we blame the gun that kills the person. We > make laws for the gun. We ignore the fact that no external law will change > the internal heart/law. > > My intent here is not to be a "know it all". Indeed, I believe too, that > ignorance grows exponentially with knowledge. For each new thing you KNOW, > there are 10 new questions, therefore the more your learn, the less you know. > > Someone mentioned the word "Indian" being offensive. I have paused in my > writing over that word many times. I have paused over many words. And it > seems daily there are more and more and more that must "give one pause". > But the pause should not be because of someone else's possible offence. It > should be to examine the intent of your heart. > > With that said, my apologies for causing rumblings in our group. > It was not my intent. > > My intent is to help people find their kin. I know the great peace and joy > that comes ESPECIALLY from finding the elusive ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nalora > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! > >

This is my first posting, but I've been observing for a while. Nalora, I'm so glad you decided to come back! It is obvious that you are very loved and wanted here, and that you are a major contributer. Too often, the passing on of knowledge, feelings, and facts goes by the way side in favor of not offending anyone. I feel that it is a greater sacrifice for all to remain ignorant to avoid offending a few. I understand the 'pauses' that you speak of. I hope that what has been going on here does not lenghthen those pauses. We all benefit and learn more from more information and stories put forth, than we do from the careful choosing of words and holding back. I hope that if you have to choose between teaching and informing, or trying not to displease people, that you will choose in favor of knowledge. I also hope that in the future I will have something truly useful to contribute to this list. Sandi syd@rmi.net

We are all adults but inclined toward making verbal errors.One must over look such petty things.I for one am a SQUAW as well as Native American,all woman,lady,female,mother,grandmother,etcetera..... I find no shame in the word SQUAW only pride.Let us all unite as one.We have enough troubles without adding extra upon our own selves.Be kind in thought as well as spirit.Do not judge so harshly.It could be one of you being at the brunt of all the criticism next time.I am new here but right is right. Vickie

Jacque, What is the site for Nalora's webpage?

you guys and gals, dont unsubscribe, stick together, there is power in numbers and knowledge. Hey I wrote asking for help from some politicians in rgds to us not having a recognized day , like St patricks? George Washington, Abe Lincoln, etc. Does anyone else want a day of national recognition??

How do we make that happen? ----- Original Message ----- From: defender1 <defender1@snet.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] unsub > I would love a day of recognition for all Native Americans. > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma >

unsubscribe I will be back when things calm down. This is one on the most knowledgeable list that I have see and it has been severely damage with the loss of the people leaving. Thanks for all the help and great posts that I have seen. Lisa Colbert

Apologize for what!!!!! Ha! You are a Doll!! Glad you are back. I suggest to all on the list a prayer for "someone". After reading their words, (of ?) they need it. Have a nice day Nalora, Katy If I had a quarter for every time I was called a name, I could take everyone on the list to lunch at the Hilton, and I am willing to bet, "someone" would have come! ----- Original Message ----- From: Nalora <vashti@theshop.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 8:39 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Good Morning > First let me say, I have returned, after an evening of sorrow, but with > comfort from all of the kind words I recieved from all of you. Pardon me if > I wax philosophical for a moment, but it is my way. I tend to see the world > with philosophical slant. > > First some background on me personally, so if you are prone to a judgement > of me, you do so with some formal data. > > I am 43 years old, I was born in Shawnee, Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma, > and I have lived in Oklahoma City since I was 6 months old. I have had a > "rough life". At the age of 13, (1969) I left home and "became a hippie". I > remained on the streets until 1974, crossing the United States many times, > in my search for "life's meaning". This time in my life taught me a great > deal about prejudice and hatred. It also began my understanding of how > people use words to hurt other people. > > We give words power. Words are nothing without intent. The master, Jesus, > once said that forgiveness is not forgiveness unless we forgive with our > hearts. This is a true saying. The words "I am sorry." have no meaning > without the intent. > > I began to think on my travels about the idea of profanity. I realized that > there is no arrangement of letters that are profane. Only the intent to > defile something sacred is profane. We teach our children that the word has > power, when it is really the heart expressing the word. External blame. We > are all prone to it. Look at how we blame the gun that kills the person. We > make laws for the gun. We ignore the fact that no external law will change > the internal heart/law. > > My intent here is not to be a "know it all". Indeed, I believe too, that > ignorance grows exponentially with knowledge. For each new thing you KNOW, > there are 10 new questions, therefore the more your learn, the less you know. > > Someone mentioned the word "Indian" being offensive. I have paused in my > writing over that word many times. I have paused over many words. And it > seems daily there are more and more and more that must "give one pause". > But the pause should not be because of someone else's possible offence. It > should be to examine the intent of your heart. > > With that said, my apologies for causing rumblings in our group. > It was not my intent. > > My intent is to help people find their kin. I know the great peace and joy > that comes ESPECIALLY from finding the elusive ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nalora > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! >

First let me say, I have returned, after an evening of sorrow, but with comfort from all of the kind words I recieved from all of you. Pardon me if I wax philosophical for a moment, but it is my way. I tend to see the world with philosophical slant. First some background on me personally, so if you are prone to a judgement of me, you do so with some formal data. I am 43 years old, I was born in Shawnee, Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma, and I have lived in Oklahoma City since I was 6 months old. I have had a "rough life". At the age of 13, (1969) I left home and "became a hippie". I remained on the streets until 1974, crossing the United States many times, in my search for "life's meaning". This time in my life taught me a great deal about prejudice and hatred. It also began my understanding of how people use words to hurt other people. We give words power. Words are nothing without intent. The master, Jesus, once said that forgiveness is not forgiveness unless we forgive with our hearts. This is a true saying. The words "I am sorry." have no meaning without the intent. I began to think on my travels about the idea of profanity. I realized that there is no arrangement of letters that are profane. Only the intent to defile something sacred is profane. We teach our children that the word has power, when it is really the heart expressing the word. External blame. We are all prone to it. Look at how we blame the gun that kills the person. We make laws for the gun. We ignore the fact that no external law will change the internal heart/law. My intent here is not to be a "know it all". Indeed, I believe too, that ignorance grows exponentially with knowledge. For each new thing you KNOW, there are 10 new questions, therefore the more your learn, the less you know. Someone mentioned the word "Indian" being offensive. I have paused in my writing over that word many times. I have paused over many words. And it seems daily there are more and more and more that must "give one pause". But the pause should not be because of someone else's possible offence. It should be to examine the intent of your heart. With that said, my apologies for causing rumblings in our group. It was not my intent. My intent is to help people find their kin. I know the great peace and joy that comes ESPECIALLY from finding the elusive ones. Nalora

WELCOME BACK NALORA! Nalora has not made her web site public yet and I will respect her wishes not to give it out yet until she is ready. There are many more things she wants to get on there first. If you want to see part of what she has been doing for people, you can see it on my personal web page at: http://www.maxpages.com/mygenroots Everything on there besides my personal family tree stuff is what she has transcribed to be put on there. Jacque Let's get back to genealogy and try not to let our words, as Nalora has said, give too much power to hurt us. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SUELP@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 6:08 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [CHOCTAW] Don't leave Nalora! > Jacque, > What is the site for Nalora's webpage? > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! >

I think that would be a nice thing to happen. Will you keep us posted as to whether you hear anything back on that? Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: <TNanciten@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] unsub > you guys and gals, dont unsubscribe, stick together, there is power in > numbers and knowledge. > > Hey I wrote asking for help from some politicians in rgds to us not having a > recognized day , like St patricks? George Washington, Abe Lincoln, etc. > > Does anyone else want a day of national recognition?? > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! >