I agree with you Sandi. It would be a miserable world if we had to watch everything we say. I agree that we should not go out of our way to say things that are unkind.

Thank you very much, Nancy. I appreciate your reply. ......Mandy On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:56:38 EST TNanciten@aol.com writes: > Hi Mandy... (re: trail of tears) > > All I did was go to search: > > Type in Trail of Tears > > I found some that way, and I beleive I found some on the Cherokee > and > Chickasaw pages by just typing in Cherokee or Chickasaw > > They print wonderfully on my printer....I have framed a couple. > My area of Calif doesnt have a whole lot of american Indian Shops, > and when > I do find one, they seldom have Trail of tears prints... > > You could from that point just take the copy to a copy machine and > enlarge > it, I do beleive a color copier would make a wonderful print for > school. > > Nancy > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list > possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA > 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

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Part of the oldTrail of Tears runs right through my aun'ts farm in Heber Springs, Ark. I'll see if I can find some old pictures I used to have. sherry dustyc@microgear.net -----Original Message----- From: TNanciten@aol.com <TNanciten@aol.com> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 24, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Also offended by the word! >Hi Mandy... (re: trail of tears) > >All I did was go to search: > >Type in Trail of Tears > >I found some that way, and I beleive I found some on the Cherokee and >Chickasaw pages by just typing in Cherokee or Chickasaw > >They print wonderfully on my printer....I have framed a couple. >My area of Calif doesnt have a whole lot of american Indian Shops, and when >I do find one, they seldom have Trail of tears prints... > >You could from that point just take the copy to a copy machine and enlarge >it, I do beleive a color copier would make a wonderful print for school. > >Nancy > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Stephanie, You are welcome to stay no matter what your heritage. I'm pleased and glad you like our unorthodox genealogy list. I hate strictness of any kind, so hope the people who have unsubed was because they don't have time right now and will be back in the future. BTW- when you unsub from any of my lists, you get a message from me that is automatically sent asking you to send me a message telling me why you unsubed and hope it wasn't due to anything I said, etc. I have found it most effective. I have gotten about a 75% return email on that message people telling me it wasn't anything I or anyone else said, that they just don't have the time right now to read through so many emails and hope to be back in the future. Thanks everyone for your support of this list. Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ryan <michael_ryan@sunshine.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] confused/amused by it all > > hello again; > it's me, Stephanie, I hardley ever write, but look forward daily to my 50 > plus messages - most of the time, the information is so incredibly > interesting, I especially enjoyed the information supplied by Nalore--but I > have watched this site for the past months, and sometimes it is just so > amusing. Does > anyone remember the problem in the Fall over the typo errors? Well, I just > have to laugh again. This must be the time for "Poltical Correctness Time" > - believe me. I truley love this site. I found out that my brick wall > wasn't Choctaw after all, but i still love it here, and wish I could be part > of your clan. Just > an intruder i guess. Love to all. > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ >

Hi Mandy... (re: trail of tears) All I did was go to search: Type in Trail of Tears I found some that way, and I beleive I found some on the Cherokee and Chickasaw pages by just typing in Cherokee or Chickasaw They print wonderfully on my printer....I have framed a couple. My area of Calif doesnt have a whole lot of american Indian Shops, and when I do find one, they seldom have Trail of tears prints... You could from that point just take the copy to a copy machine and enlarge it, I do beleive a color copier would make a wonderful print for school. Nancy

Jennifer, Have you checked out the other Choctaw mailing list hosted by Markie Owen. Her list is more for the Choctaw Indians who stayed in Mississippi after the removal. Markie lives in LA and could possibly point you in the right direction. To join her list send an email message to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com Sorry I am not able to help you with your quest. Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: <ACutie4sur@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 4:42 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Mississippi Choctaw-Jena Band of Choctaw HELP > Halito, > I am looking for more information on the Jena band of Choctaw indians... > If anyone can help me out I would appricate it.. My family is said to be of > this band.. Makes sense since 99% of them live with in the Grant, Rapides, > LaSalle Parish's of LA.. Please can someone help me out? > Mainly I am looking for a IRWIN connection within the Jena band. > > > Jennifer S. Irwin > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm >

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Duh, silly me......I don't know what I was thinking......as if someone would have had a polaroid on hand. Would you please send me the web addresses of the pics that you have found? I have found a few; but, I would like to have more. Thank you so much for your reply. Mandy On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 01:09:33 EST TNanciten@aol.com writes: > No, I dont have actual pics of the trail of tears, only those i > findon the > net. > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm >

No, I dont have actual pics of the trail of tears, only those i findon the net.

In a message dated 3/23/2000 8:38:06 PM Central Standard Time, CHOCTAW-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > <attn: Nanny1Papa1@aol.com> Snow is a family name of mine. I'll compare your names with mine and see how we come out. There are a bunch of Snow researchers; cousin Philip Snow north of Plano, TX is one of the best. Liz Valentine Surnames SNOW > JUSTICE > TAYLOR > GREGORY VALENTINE > ROSS > FRIEND > HUNT CULBREATH > BROOKS > THOMPSON WALLACE > CHASE

Hi J Moton and list members: We've been called Indians all our lives. So, for some, it's still hard to slip into the now politically correct way of speaking. We know we are Native Americans. But, maybe all would like to hear what I saw on CNN one evening dealing with this very painful "Political Correctness in speaking" thing, which to me is really a pain in the neck. A Japanese American comic was talking about the above. He said he found it dumb. One night he was doing his comic act on stage and the joke he told, all laughed at. His response was, "What do I know, I'm just a Japanese American!" Which got more laughter. Then, a white woman (European American?) in the audience stood up, very upset, and said "You are not a Japanese American, you are an Asian American!" She sat down huffily and this guy said "Well, lady, excuse me for insulting myself!" The audience roared with laughther, less the very offended woman. SHE was offended, the Japanese man was not! He thought she was TOO MUCH! Yes, things have come to the point of really stupid nitpicking! So, let's get over it and if someone on the list refers to being an Indian, others should not jump all over them! Love to all, Sandi :)

All I got to say is You Go Girl proud you are back !!!!!!!!!

Well, why have I been corrected so many times for saying Indians? I have been told if you say Indians you are talking about people in India. And I certainly know a few people on this list who say Indians instead of native American. should I be offended? Some people carry their feelings around on their shoulders just waiting for someone to hurt them. Get back to what we are here for and let this go for God's sake. And if you can't maybe you have a problem that needs some working on also. jmoton3557@aol.com

Nancy, Do you have actual pictures that were taken of the Trail of Tears. I home school my two children. Anyway, I went to the library and checked out some books. One is The Trail Of Tears ....The Cheokee Journey From Home..By Marlene Targ Brill. If you have actual pictures; would you please let me know? Thank You, Mandy On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:36:10 EST TNanciten@aol.com writes: > What might make Gail more interested in helping us gain a National > Day of > recognition, FOR ALL TRIBES, is if each one of us write her, and if > we each > write to our senators and congresspersons from each state we live > in. > Hr name is Gail Lightfoot > E-mail her at GkLtft @aol.com > She is running on the libertarian ticket. > > to Find your state senators just go to search and type in state > senators, if > will be able to get their e-mail addresses in most cases??? > > question? I have looked on my calendar and I dont see November as > national > native american month????? Did I miss it??? Hmmmmmm. > > I have a cuz who works out by Talaqua, Okla, he sd his friends are > in favor > of this at the chickasaw rez........( he is in the medical field) > > My background is: I was born in California, my father was born in > Oklahoma > territory on a reservation. His mother was half native american, and > his dad > was > a Scott., from Scotland. My dad never had a birth cert until he was > 63 yrs > old, and got one for > the social sec dept, so he could draaw his SSN. I am now 52 yrs old, > and in > my family we just keep looking Native american, seems like every > other child > born looks like our ancestors, inc one of mine. He looks like a full > blood. > That goes to show us how strong our blood is, and that our ancestors > refuse > to just go away!!!!!!! > > > My great grandmother was a full Chickasaw Native american, who > married > a Englishman...her name was nancy caroline gann. > > I am not a enrolled native, BUT I AM JUST THE SAME. > > My family has heard so many stories abt what our family had and was > taken, > that it sickens most of us....stories of land taken but not pd for, > etc, etc, > etc. > It goes on and on. > If any one you follow the casino info from calif. you know we just > won a > victory to keep those open...and under the control of the tribes. > > We think we have a very big connection to Cheif Joe Vann, who also > had Gann > connections and family..and I think all of you might know who he > was? > > Anyhow, I love the USA, and I love my native american heritage, we > cant change > the past, but we can mold the future for our next generations. > > I get upset just looking at the pics I have of the trail of tears, > all those > babies > who died along the way....a shame on the US govmt that can never be > wiped > clean...or shoved under the table. > > God bless > Nancy M. Cathey Tenhet > > Proud to be named after my Chickasaw grandmother!!!!!!! > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join > Rootsweb.com today! >

Nancy: Let's go for it! Sandi :)

Well, thank you Vickie. I am glad that another person feels the same as I. Mandy On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:35:22 +0200 "defender1" <defender1@snet.net> writes: > I am in total agreement with Mandy. Vickie > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ >

What might make Gail more interested in helping us gain a National Day of recognition, FOR ALL TRIBES, is if each one of us write her, and if we each write to our senators and congresspersons from each state we live in. Hr name is Gail Lightfoot E-mail her at GkLtft @aol.com She is running on the libertarian ticket. to Find your state senators just go to search and type in state senators, if will be able to get their e-mail addresses in most cases??? question? I have looked on my calendar and I dont see November as national native american month????? Did I miss it??? Hmmmmmm. I have a cuz who works out by Talaqua, Okla, he sd his friends are in favor of this at the chickasaw rez........( he is in the medical field) My background is: I was born in California, my father was born in Oklahoma territory on a reservation. His mother was half native american, and his dad was a Scott., from Scotland. My dad never had a birth cert until he was 63 yrs old, and got one for the social sec dept, so he could draaw his SSN. I am now 52 yrs old, and in my family we just keep looking Native american, seems like every other child born looks like our ancestors, inc one of mine. He looks like a full blood. That goes to show us how strong our blood is, and that our ancestors refuse to just go away!!!!!!! My great grandmother was a full Chickasaw Native american, who married a Englishman...her name was nancy caroline gann. I am not a enrolled native, BUT I AM JUST THE SAME. My family has heard so many stories abt what our family had and was taken, that it sickens most of us....stories of land taken but not pd for, etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on. If any one you follow the casino info from calif. you know we just won a victory to keep those open...and under the control of the tribes. We think we have a very big connection to Cheif Joe Vann, who also had Gann connections and family..and I think all of you might know who he was? Anyhow, I love the USA, and I love my native american heritage, we cant change the past, but we can mold the future for our next generations. I get upset just looking at the pics I have of the trail of tears, all those babies who died along the way....a shame on the US govmt that can never be wiped clean...or shoved under the table. God bless Nancy M. Cathey Tenhet Proud to be named after my Chickasaw grandmother!!!!!!!

so well said defender!!!!!!

gail lightfeather from Calif said that she would want to actually find out if the Native Americans want a national Day of recognition..if this group is interested, I will give out her e-mail address. Nancy A Chickasaw sister She has a what might seem like a Native American name, but indicated she is not, maybe it is her husband or??