I am researching 2 family lines. The first one is John Wiseman "Doc" Box b. 1832 Alabama, d. 11/29/1871 Jackson, Mississippi. Wife Nancy Harrison Box b. 12/28/1836 bp.GA, d. 2/9/1908 Arkansas. Children James R b.1856 MS, George Washington b.1859 MS, Jennie b.1862 MS, Virgie Barbara b.1872 Jackson, MS d. 10/10/1951 AR. According to oral family history John Box was Indian, but I am unclear if he was Choctaw or Cherokee. I found him on the 1860 MS Census Choctaw Co. Township 18 ,Post Office Bankston. He was a sharpshooter in the Confederacy, Company L, Regiment 24, MS Infantry, was captured sent to POW camp in Illinois. After the war he walked from Illinois to Mississippi, found his family even though they had moved several times during the war. He died shortly before Virgie Barbara (my ggrandmother) was born.The family moved to Arkansas. Wife Nancy applied for pension (widow 4656) on 8/20/1901 in Garland Co., AR (Hot Springs, AR) The second family line I am looking for is John C. Bailey b.1842 bplace unk. and wife Shorty. Oral History says they came from OK to AR and are Indian, however the 1880 AR Census Faulkner Co. Harve Township shows Shorty's birthplace as Tennessee 1843. All the children and two nieces living with the family born in AR. Children's names James M. b.1865, Newton H. b.1868, William F. b.1870, Joseph D.A. b.1875, Susan Arrena (aka Arrena S.)b.1875 (my ggrandmother),John T. b.1878, Horace M. b.1879-1880, nieces Turpin, Mahola C. b1863 and Golden, Delia A. b. 1867. The only other info I have on the Baileys' is that they were very tall people. Do any of these names appear in your database? Lori Gasaway, lgasaway@fbtc.net -----Original Message----- From: Nalora <vashti@theshop.net> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 25, 2000 7:55 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW] "Reservation" >I have often heard people use the word "Reservation" in reference to the >Indians of Oklahoma, and it has always puzzled me. Most of the time it is >used when someone is reciting a family oral history, "I was told my great >great grandmother lived on a reservation in Oklahoma." I *think* the >reason people say this is because the western tribes of the US had >reservations, and so all Indians must have reservations. This is not >completely true. The five civilized tribes had NATIONS. The tribes in >Oklahoma that I KNOW had reservations are: Miami, Quapaw, Peoria, >Wyandotte, Ottawa, Sac/Fox, Iowa, Pottawatomie, Kickapoo, Shawnee, Seneca, >Cheyenne-Arapaho, Apache, Ponca, Osage, Commanche, and Kiowa. > >I am almost certain that the Indians in Oklahoma that were on Reservations >were all the smaller tribes,(though I am only certain of the ones above) >and not the Five Civilized tribes. My intent in telling you this, is that >if you believe your family oral history contains truth that your ancestor >was on a reservation, you should really check the rolls and documents of >these other tribes, before you dismiss yourself from having Indian >Ancestory in Oklahoma. > >I do have a list of all the addresses for all the Federally recognized >tribes of Oklahoma if anyone needs an address or phone number. > >Here are the Tribes of Oklahoma: > >Absentee Shawnee >Apache >Caddo >Cherokee >Cheyenne-Arapaho >Chickasaw >Choctaw >Citizen Band Potawatomi >Commanche >Delaware Tribe >Delaware Nation >Eastern Shawnee >Fort Sill Chiricauhua/ Warm Springs Apache >Iowa >Kaw >Kickapoo >Kiowa >Loyal Shawnee >Miami >Modoc >Muscogee (Creek) >Osage >Otoe-Missouria >Ottawa >Pawnee >Peoria >Ponca >Quapaw >Sac and Fox >Seminole >Seneca-Cayuga >Tonkawa >United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians in Oklahoma >Wichita and Affiliated >Wyandotte >Yuchi-Euchee > > > > >Nalora > > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

The reason I beleive my father was born on a reservation is that he indicated so. Now he also indicated he was Chickasaw, that we cannot verify, what I do beleive to be the final truth is that maybe his family was mixed, and from our own oral history they all lived togethger, always moving together...several families who remained close for at least 3 generations, then it all fell apart, now most of us do not know each other, but the wonderful thing about us is that for the most part those that have re united ,our blended Oklahoma families feel a closeness with each other that passed down from the ones who came before us. Nancy

Hi Fay, Welcome back to the 'lists', mine and Markie's. Hope you are recovering from your surgery and don't try to overdo on your transcribing. As someone else said, Rome wasn't built in a day. Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay Ratcliff <faynshep@telapex.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Mississippi Kin > If you find any of your Griffins in AL let me know. I'll check to see if I > have any info. > Fay > > Nalora wrote: > > > At 03:46 PM 3/24/00 -0600, you wrote: > > >Nalora, My maiden name is Griffin. Came from GA to AL then MS in 1939. > > >Fay > > > > My great grandma was a Griffin. She is my "grumpy grandma." She was grumpy > > because she had arthritis, and was in a W/C by the time she was 40. Anyway, > > she was born in Corinth, Alcorn County MS, March 1880. Her parents are > > William Ellis GRIFFIN and Clemminie PHILLIPS, both of Alcorn Co. MS, tho > > William dies in Sharon, TN. > > > > Nalora > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/ > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma >

You're right, Nalora, also, in the 1930s there were communities of homes built in Eastern Oklahoma that were called reservations. One such "reservation" was built between McCurtain and Red Oak. The houses were built in a particular style, square with a high pitched hip roof and had a chimney in the peak of the roof that could vent any of the four rooms. They were called "reservation" houses. By the 50s many of the houses had been moved through out the area. They may have been built by the WPA. Doug Nalora wrote: > I have often heard people use the word "Reservation" in reference to the > Indians of Oklahoma, and it has always puzzled me. Most of the time it is > used when someone is reciting a family oral history, "I was told my great > great grandmother lived on a reservation in Oklahoma." I *think* the > reason people say this is because the western tribes of the US had > reservations, and so all Indians must have reservations. This is not > completely true. The five civilized tribes had NATIONS. The tribes in > Oklahoma that I KNOW had reservations are: Miami, Quapaw, Peoria, > Wyandotte, Ottawa, Sac/Fox, Iowa, Pottawatomie, Kickapoo, Shawnee, Seneca, > Cheyenne-Arapaho, Apache, Ponca, Osage, Commanche, and Kiowa. > > I am almost certain that the Indians in Oklahoma that were on Reservations > were all the smaller tribes,(though I am only certain of the ones above) > and not the Five Civilized tribes. My intent in telling you this, is that > if you believe your family oral history contains truth that your ancestor > was on a reservation, you should really check the rolls and documents of > these other tribes, before you dismiss yourself from having Indian > Ancestory in Oklahoma. > > I do have a list of all the addresses for all the Federally recognized > tribes of Oklahoma if anyone needs an address or phone number. > > Here are the Tribes of Oklahoma: > > Absentee Shawnee > Apache > Caddo > Cherokee > Cheyenne-Arapaho > Chickasaw > Choctaw > Citizen Band Potawatomi > Commanche > Delaware Tribe > Delaware Nation > Eastern Shawnee > Fort Sill Chiricauhua/ Warm Springs Apache > Iowa > Kaw > Kickapoo > Kiowa > Loyal Shawnee > Miami > Modoc > Muscogee (Creek) > Osage > Otoe-Missouria > Ottawa > Pawnee > Peoria > Ponca > Quapaw > Sac and Fox > Seminole > Seneca-Cayuga > Tonkawa > United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians in Oklahoma > Wichita and Affiliated > Wyandotte > Yuchi-Euchee > > Nalora > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

I have often heard people use the word "Reservation" in reference to the Indians of Oklahoma, and it has always puzzled me. Most of the time it is used when someone is reciting a family oral history, "I was told my great great grandmother lived on a reservation in Oklahoma." I *think* the reason people say this is because the western tribes of the US had reservations, and so all Indians must have reservations. This is not completely true. The five civilized tribes had NATIONS. The tribes in Oklahoma that I KNOW had reservations are: Miami, Quapaw, Peoria, Wyandotte, Ottawa, Sac/Fox, Iowa, Pottawatomie, Kickapoo, Shawnee, Seneca, Cheyenne-Arapaho, Apache, Ponca, Osage, Commanche, and Kiowa. I am almost certain that the Indians in Oklahoma that were on Reservations were all the smaller tribes,(though I am only certain of the ones above) and not the Five Civilized tribes. My intent in telling you this, is that if you believe your family oral history contains truth that your ancestor was on a reservation, you should really check the rolls and documents of these other tribes, before you dismiss yourself from having Indian Ancestory in Oklahoma. I do have a list of all the addresses for all the Federally recognized tribes of Oklahoma if anyone needs an address or phone number. Here are the Tribes of Oklahoma: Absentee Shawnee Apache Caddo Cherokee Cheyenne-Arapaho Chickasaw Choctaw Citizen Band Potawatomi Commanche Delaware Tribe Delaware Nation Eastern Shawnee Fort Sill Chiricauhua/ Warm Springs Apache Iowa Kaw Kickapoo Kiowa Loyal Shawnee Miami Modoc Muscogee (Creek) Osage Otoe-Missouria Ottawa Pawnee Peoria Ponca Quapaw Sac and Fox Seminole Seneca-Cayuga Tonkawa United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians in Oklahoma Wichita and Affiliated Wyandotte Yuchi-Euchee Nalora

WELL OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT CAMERAS DID NOT EXIST WHEN THE TRAIL TOOK PLACE....THESE ARE ARTIST RENDITIONS. NOT ACTUAL PICTURES...TAKEN BY A CAMERA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to be obvious but does everyone understand that the Trail of Tears of the Five Civilized Tribes 1832-1838 was some 20 to 30 years before the use of the Camera. The camera was used primarily in the Studio until Matthew Brady took candid shots of the Civil War. Pictures of the Trail of Tears were drawings and paintings. Doug

Hi to all list members, I am new to this list and I have to say, it has been a very active list for the 2 days I have been subscribed. I love it!!! I am helping my brother in law research his family and I am at a stand still. The surname I am looking for is WILLIAMS. Everyone in their family says they are of Choctaw descent and I have to say they look very much Native American, especially Tom's dad. Tom's dad has been very ill for the last year and we have tried to keep his mind active with family things and I have to say he has loved it. Anyway, enough of that, I will list the information I have and if any of you recognize this family I would love to hear from you. Also, if anyone has any helpful hints for research, I will be glad to hear from you. Descendants of Thomas Williams Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS1 WILLIAMS Child of THOMAS WILLIAMS is: 2. i. JAMES M.2 WILLIAMS, b. June 30, 1837, Tennessee; d. 1913, Leflore County, Oklahoma. Generation No. 2 2. JAMES M.2 WILLIAMS (THOMAS1) was born June 30, 1837 in Tennessee, and died 1913 in Leflore County, Oklahoma. He married (1) NANCY E. WILLIAMS Abt. 1856. She was born March 20, 1844, and died December 18, 1895 in Leflore County, Oklahoma (Indian Territory). He married (2) MYRA ELIZABETH PARNELL. Children of JAMES WILLIAMS and NANCY WILLIAMS are: 3. i. MYRA EVA3 WILLIAMS, b. October 07, 1876, Calhoun Co., Mississippi; d. December 07, 1928, Altus, Oklahoma. ii. ELIZABETH WILLIAMS, b. 1862, Mississippi. iii. WILLIAM E. WILLIAMS, b. 1866, Mississippi. iv. JULIA S. WILLIAMS, b. 1868, Mississippi. v. JESSIE G. WILLIAMS, b. 1873, Mississippi. Generation No. 3 3. MYRA EVA3 WILLIAMS (JAMES M.2, THOMAS1) was born October 07, 1876 in Calhoun Co., Mississippi, and died December 07, 1928 in Altus, Oklahoma. She married ERASTUS MALONE GABBERT Abt. 1893 in Mississippi, son of JOHN GABBERT and MARY GABBERT. He was born June 19, 1865 in Calhoun County, Mississippi, and died August 1953 in Altus, Oklahoma. Children of MYRA WILLIAMS and ERASTUS GABBERT are: i. WESSON BRUNNER4 GABBERT, b. August 22, 1893, Mississippi; d. January 06, 1961, Texas. ii. JOE BENSON GABBERT, b. November 15, 1895, Cameron, Oklahoma Indian Territory; d. December 02, 1978, Texas. 4. iii. MAUDE LEE GABBERT, b. December 15, 1898, Poteau, Leflore, Oklahoma ( Indian Territory ); d. October 07, 1941, Grand Saline, Van Zandt, Texas. iv. THOMAS CARROLL GABBERT, b. April 23, 1902, Cameron, Oklahoma Indian Territory; d. November 01, 1993, Coleman, Coleman, Texas. v. MARY ELIZABETH GABBERT, b. August 30, 1904, Cameron, Oklahoma Indian Territory; d. March 28, 1994, Clute, Brazoria, Texas; m. ? STEVENSON. vi. PEARL LUCILLE GABBERT, b. August 06, 1907, Calvin, Hughes, Oklahoma; m. (1) ROY BAREFOOT; m. (2) JIM RENFROE. vii. LUTHER OWEN GABBERT, b. December 05, 1910, Hill, Oklahoma; d. February 13, 1965, Texas. viii. IMOGENE BEATRICE GABBERT, b. October 15, 1916, Hill, Oklahoma; m. ROBERT FRANKLIN. Generation No. 4 4. MAUDE LEE4 GABBERT (MYRA EVA3 WILLIAMS, JAMES M.2, THOMAS1) was born December 15, 1898 in Poteau, Leflore, Oklahoma ( Indian Territory ), and died October 07, 1941 in Grand Saline, Van Zandt, Texas. She married THOMAS WILLIAM HAYES December 30, 1917 in Soper(Roebuck), Choctaw, Oklahoma, son of HENRY HAYES and CLARA HARROD. He was born September 29, 1897 in Meridian, Lauderdale, Michigan, and died January 11, 1974 in Grand Saline, Van Zandt, Texas. Children of MAUDE GABBERT and THOMAS HAYES are: 5. i. DONALD THOMAS5 HAYES ii. BOBBY FRANK HAYES iii. PATTIE RAGA HAYES Thanks in advance and I am happy to be a member of this list, I have another post, but it is not nearly as complete as this one. Shirley WADE Anderson

I, too would love to see pictures of the trail--could you post them on your website or something? ----- Original Message ----- From: <ohyeahright@juno.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Also offended by the word! > Nancy, > Do you have actual pictures that were taken of the Trail of Tears. > I home school my two children. Anyway, I went to the library and checked > out some books. One is The Trail Of Tears ....The Cheokee Journey From > Home..By Marlene Targ Brill. If you have actual pictures; would you > please let me know? > Thank You, > Mandy > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:36:10 EST TNanciten@aol.com writes: > > What might make Gail more interested in helping us gain a National > > Day of > > recognition, FOR ALL TRIBES, is if each one of us write her, and if > > we each > > write to our senators and congresspersons from each state we live > > in. > > Hr name is Gail Lightfoot > > E-mail her at GkLtft @aol.com > > She is running on the libertarian ticket. > > > > to Find your state senators just go to search and type in state > > senators, if > > will be able to get their e-mail addresses in most cases??? > > > > question? I have looked on my calendar and I dont see November as > > national > > native american month????? Did I miss it??? Hmmmmmm. > > > > I have a cuz who works out by Talaqua, Okla, he sd his friends are > > in favor > > of this at the chickasaw rez........( he is in the medical field) > > > > My background is: I was born in California, my father was born in > > Oklahoma > > territory on a reservation. His mother was half native american, and > > his dad > > was > > a Scott., from Scotland. My dad never had a birth cert until he was > > 63 yrs > > old, and got one for > > the social sec dept, so he could draaw his SSN. I am now 52 yrs old, > > and in > > my family we just keep looking Native american, seems like every > > other child > > born looks like our ancestors, inc one of mine. He looks like a full > > blood. > > That goes to show us how strong our blood is, and that our ancestors > > refuse > > to just go away!!!!!!! > > > > > > My great grandmother was a full Chickasaw Native american, who > > married > > a Englishman...her name was nancy caroline gann. > > > > I am not a enrolled native, BUT I AM JUST THE SAME. > > > > My family has heard so many stories abt what our family had and was > > taken, > > that it sickens most of us....stories of land taken but not pd for, > > etc, etc, > > etc. > > It goes on and on. > > If any one you follow the casino info from calif. you know we just > > won a > > victory to keep those open...and under the control of the tribes. > > > > We think we have a very big connection to Cheif Joe Vann, who also > > had Gann > > connections and family..and I think all of you might know who he > > was? > > > > Anyhow, I love the USA, and I love my native american heritage, we > > cant change > > the past, but we can mold the future for our next generations. > > > > I get upset just looking at the pics I have of the trail of tears, > > all those > > babies > > who died along the way....a shame on the US govmt that can never be > > wiped > > clean...or shoved under the table. > > > > God bless > > Nancy M. Cathey Tenhet > > > > Proud to be named after my Chickasaw grandmother!!!!!!! > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join > > Rootsweb.com today! > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! > >

jmoton,,you read my mind --yes, nalora GO GIRL and welcome back liz ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMoton3557@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] WELCOME BACK! > All I got to say is You Go Girl proud you are back !!!!!!!!! > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

If you find any of your Griffins in AL let me know. I'll check to see if I have any info. Fay Nalora wrote: > At 03:46 PM 3/24/00 -0600, you wrote: > >Nalora, My maiden name is Griffin. Came from GA to AL then MS in 1939. > >Fay > > My great grandma was a Griffin. She is my "grumpy grandma." She was grumpy > because she had arthritis, and was in a W/C by the time she was 40. Anyway, > she was born in Corinth, Alcorn County MS, March 1880. Her parents are > William Ellis GRIFFIN and Clemminie PHILLIPS, both of Alcorn Co. MS, tho > William dies in Sharon, TN. > > Nalora > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/

At 03:46 PM 3/24/00 -0600, you wrote: >Nalora, My maiden name is Griffin. Came from GA to AL then MS in 1939. >Fay My great grandma was a Griffin. She is my "grumpy grandma." She was grumpy because she had arthritis, and was in a W/C by the time she was 40. Anyway, she was born in Corinth, Alcorn County MS, March 1880. Her parents are William Ellis GRIFFIN and Clemminie PHILLIPS, both of Alcorn Co. MS, tho William dies in Sharon, TN. Nalora

Oh, I forgot to mention that after Margaret's death, Edward Keith HURD marries twice more, to Eliza Winkler of Tishomingo, Chickasaw Nation and Rosa LEE of Tishomingo, Chickasaw Nation. Eliza has one child and dies. (Marion Bentley HURD) and Rosa outlives Edward and dissapears, having two children. Milla, and Mary. Milla ends up in Phoenix, Arizona married to a PARKER. Nalora

My great great grandfather Edward Keith HURD originally married Margaret Luticia Malvina Fox(x). I have seen her name in two places, my grandmother's bible, and her headstone. We were told she was an Indian. She is born, according to census records. (I have not seen her on a census, she misses them all, just my great grandfather says she was born in Texas on one census, and Edward Keith says she was born in Texas in another census) Edward Keith HURD's mother is Eliza BOON by the way, of Howard county MO. Edward Keith is the freight hauler in the Chickasaw Nation. Apparently my family still owns 1,000 acres near Tishomingo. It was passed from Edward Keith's first born, my grandfather, and from there to Robert Manning Hurd's first born, Eva, and then to Eva's only child, Jimmie Ruth WARD. I only found this out recently when I called Jimmie Ruth and talked to her about her grandfather, (my great grandfather) I at one time thought that Margaret was a Sac Fox, based on migration pattern and timing, and the fact that our family also owned 160 acres in the Sac/Fox Nation. Now I am not so certain. There is an entry in O'Beirne's that especially fascinates me. William FOX (Chickasaw) William FOX was born in Robinson County, Texas, in 1853, and came to Indian Territory in 1870. Soon after his arrival Mr. Fox went to work assisting his father to open a farm east of Stonewall, on what is known as Deer Creek. After eight years of diligent labor he married Angelina Manning, daughter of Dr. T. J. MANNING, of Caddo, where he was for some time afterwards employed assisting his brother in the mercantile business. In 1881 he left Caddo accompanied by his wife and made his headquarters at Los Vegas, New Mexico, for twelve months. From thence he traveled to San Francisco, Victoria (British Columbia), and Seattle, finally "checking up" at Snowhannich City, Washington Territory, where he made his home for nearly four years. In 1886 he moved back to Los Vegas, and after a stay of fifteen months returned to the Indian Territory and opened a confectionary establishment at Purcell in 1887. The following year we find him in the agricultural business, and opening a farm, eight hundred acres of which he now has in a state of cultivation. In 1890 he moved back to town and established a billiard and pool hall, which now engages his attention. Mr. Fox has spent a good deal of time and money in traveling, but does not appear to regret it in the least. [What an adventurer!!] Nalora

Nalora, My maiden name is Griffin. Came from GA to AL then MS in 1939. Fay Nalora wrote: > Just for the heck of it, I thought I would throw this out there. My GRIFFIN > Kin are from Alcorn Co. Mississippi and Tishomingo County Mississippi. > beginning around 1853 to the present day. If you have GRIFFIN marriages in > MS, give me a name and I will check and see if it fits my data base. > (Before MS this Griffin line goes back to Union Co. N.C.) > > Also, I am searching for the parents of Cleminie or Clemontine PHILLIPS b. > 1852 of Alcorn and Tishomingo Counties in Mississippi. If you have PHILLIPS > in your line from these counties in MS, I would like to hear from you. > After reading O'Beirne's book, I am hopeful that this line married into the > Chickasaw Nation (would sure explain the Griffin presence there later in > the 1880's and 90's) > > Nalora > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/

Just for the heck of it, I thought I would throw this out there. My GRIFFIN Kin are from Alcorn Co. Mississippi and Tishomingo County Mississippi. beginning around 1853 to the present day. If you have GRIFFIN marriages in MS, give me a name and I will check and see if it fits my data base. (Before MS this Griffin line goes back to Union Co. N.C.) Also, I am searching for the parents of Cleminie or Clemontine PHILLIPS b. 1852 of Alcorn and Tishomingo Counties in Mississippi. If you have PHILLIPS in your line from these counties in MS, I would like to hear from you. After reading O'Beirne's book, I am hopeful that this line married into the Chickasaw Nation (would sure explain the Griffin presence there later in the 1880's and 90's) Nalora

I haven't said much in a while, but have been keeping up with all the post as best I can. A friend knows I do this and she has asked me for help. I knew this was first place I wanted to start as there is so much help here, it's sad that everyone can't get this kind of help on the searching they are doing. Anyway, here's what she gave me and I'll get more if needed, but appreciate any help anyone can give me. Yokoke in advance!!!!!! Craton GATHER Born Feb. 16th 1865 died when he was about 68. Had a daughter named Florence who was born in approx. 1912. Rosie GATHER Born Nov. 5 (year not known) but died when she was 92. Gather is her maiden name and she married a WAGNER. It's probable that they are Cherokee and I know this is a choctaw list, but I also know alot of the rolls and info are the same. So, if anyone sees these names it would be wonderful to hear from you. Yokoke, Shelley

She was a Southeast Oklahoma Indian researcher, author, and retired freelance writer. She was born in Hugo, Oklahoma and retired to Pine Bluff, Arkansas. She passed away this week.

Hello, I am new to the list, and I was wondering if someone could tell me what "Okalona" means. Thanks, Colleen

Sherry, Really?!!! That is wonderful. Oh...I hope that you can find some of those pictures. I will have to look on a map to find the location of Heber Springs, Arkansas. I was born in DeQueen, Arkansas. If you do find some of the pictures; could you let me know by e-mailing me at: doctmous@yahoo.com ? I won't have this address after this month. I would really appreciate it. Thank You, Mandy On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:51:26 -0600 "Dusty Collins" <dustyc@microgear.net> writes: > Part of the oldTrail of Tears runs right through my aun'ts farm in > Heber > Springs, Ark. I'll see if I can find some old pictures I used to > have. > > sherry > dustyc@microgear.net > -----Original Message----- > From: TNanciten@aol.com <TNanciten@aol.com> > To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, March 24, 2000 8:00 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Also offended by the word! > > > >Hi Mandy... (re: trail of tears) > > > >All I did was go to search: > > > >Type in Trail of Tears > > > >I found some that way, and I beleive I found some on the Cherokee > and > >Chickasaw pages by just typing in Cherokee or Chickasaw > > > >They print wonderfully on my printer....I have framed a couple. > >My area of Calif doesnt have a whole lot of american Indian Shops, > and when > >I do find one, they seldom have Trail of tears prints... > > > >You could from that point just take the copy to a copy machine and > enlarge > >it, I do beleive a color copier would make a wonderful print for > school. > > > >Nancy > > > > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > >Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list > possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma >