I forgot to say thanks to Nalora and Debra Jane Deaton Manale for the great work on Choctaw Leaders. Let's hear it for them! Rusty Lang

Just a hint, LOL. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rebecca L. York <dalton@nidlink.com> To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: [OKGEN ] nominations/fav. Co. > Good Morning! (it's going on 11:30 here so good afternoon to all you okies > or displaced okies!) > > This is the last day to vote for your favorite county site for the month. > 10:00 my time I'll count the votes so please vote before then if you haven't > already. > > Here is the nomination page:: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/nominate.html > > And here is "quick county links" page in case you want to check them out > before you vote:: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/countyquick.htm > > Rebecca "Becky" York > **~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~* > my personal site: York & Baer > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ouryorks > York: the Url of York ~*~ for all York's > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allyorks > ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~ > "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. > We are spiritual beings having a human experience." > ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ ^i^ > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Online sources for locating a Town or County > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm >

Wrong, I didn't read the question correctly. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eugene--Norma Roth <genor@mtnhome.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Blood Quantum > 1/4+3/4=4/4divided by 2=1/2 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kelli Staples <kmstapl@hotmail.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:05 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW] Blood Quantum > > > > I've got a question. How do you figure blood quantum? If a father is 1/4 > and the child is 3/4, how much is the mother? > > > > Besides the Dawes Roll, is there anywhere else blood quantum was figured? > If so, where do I find it? Thanks for helping! > > > > Kelli > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/PushCo.html > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! http://www.rootsweb.com >

1/4+3/4=4/4divided by 2=1/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelli Staples <kmstapl@hotmail.com> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:05 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] Blood Quantum > I've got a question. How do you figure blood quantum? If a father is 1/4 and the child is 3/4, how much is the mother? > > Besides the Dawes Roll, is there anywhere else blood quantum was figured? If so, where do I find it? Thanks for helping! > > Kelli > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/PushCo.html >

I've got a question. How do you figure blood quantum? If a father is 1/4 and the child is 3/4, how much is the mother? Besides the Dawes Roll, is there anywhere else blood quantum was figured? If so, where do I find it? Thanks for helping! Kelli

Tammy, do know if the name Carnes was ever Carney especially if they came from Mississippi? Fay Tammy Jones wrote: > I would like to have more information on the Benjamin Carnes who was killed > in Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory before 1885. Anyone have a Benjamin > Carnes in their family tree? > > Thank you, > Tammy Dice Jones > wjones@texhoma.net > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Check out the Oklahoma's main web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/ > Lots of Native American Links there.

I would like to have more information on the Benjamin Carnes who was killed in Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory before 1885. Anyone have a Benjamin Carnes in their family tree? Thank you, Tammy Dice Jones wjones@texhoma.net

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Nalora, The last of the O'Beirne names i got was Joseph B. Thompson. No Wards. If I missed after Thompson, could you resend them please. rusty lang rlang90547@aol.com

At 06:46 PM 3/30/00 EST, you wrote: >Nalora, >The last of the O'Beirne names i got was Joseph B. Thompson. No Wards. If I >missed after Thompson, could you resend them please. >rusty lang >rlang90547@aol.com Rusty, They are now in the Archives of this list: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl enter CHOCTAW-L next page enter O'BEIRNE you will get 49 possibles, they are on the second page of listings. Nalora

Nalora, Thank you for taking the time to type up the bios for me. I do remember you sending me the one on William C. York, before. Thanks again. Jacque ----- Original Message ----- From: Nalora <vashti@theshop.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:14 AM Subject: [CHOCTAW] O'Beirne: WARD, Charles > "Leaders and Leading Men of the Indian Territory", > Vol. I, Choctaws and Chickasaws > By H. F. O'Beirne > published 1891. > > page 138 > > [ a photo of Charles Ward accompanies the bio ] > > CHARLES WARD > > The subject of this sketch was born close to the Red River, Choctaw Nation, > in 1849, and moved to Texas with his parents, returning with them at the > close of the war. Education being difficult to procure in those days of > strife, Charles had little opportunity afforded him in that respect, most > of his learning being acquired beneath the paternal roof. In 1870 he > opened a farm and built a home close to Kiowa, and soon acquired a small > stock of cattle. In 1874 he married Mary Elizabeth Summers, of Missouri, by > whom he has five children living--Charles Oliver, Benjamin F., Mary > Elizabeth, William Giles and Aaron. In 1889 he held the office of Deputy > county clerk, and in 1890 was appointed deputy sheriff of Tobocksy county. > Mr. Ward is an elder of the Christian Church, and has been Sunday School > superintendent for many years. He has served as a member of the petit jury > of the Moshallatubby district, as also on the grand jury (United States > Courts, Second division) at South McAlester in the fall of 1890. Some > years ago, seeing the neccesity of a school and church house in his > neighborhood, he took the responsibility upon himself, and with the aid of > J. S. Doyle erected the building. The school has since been conducted > under good management, Mr. Ward being the local trustee. Since that time a > parsonage has been built, and the neighborhood is now in a thriving > condition. Mr Ward left his old home at one time and settled close to > Caddo, in Blue county, but not liking the neighborhood, he soon after > returned to Tobocsky county, and settled within eight miles of his old > place. He has about one hundred and twenty five acres under cultivation, > one hundred head of cattle, one hundred and fifty head of hogs, twenty head > of stock horses, and a small herd of sheep. Charles is the brother of > Judge Henry Ward, of Atoka county, and like Henry is highly esteemed for > his warm, generous and charitable nature, as well as for his strict honesty > of purpose and truly Christian bearing. Of these young men, as well as > others of the family it is said that a profane word has never yet soiled > their lips. > > > ----------- > > > Nalora > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Native American Ancestors in > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma? > Have a look -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/PushCo.html >

Hi List- I have found new information about my Choctaw ancestors. Would you please check your resources for these names? Elizabeth (Lizzie) Holloway Fairbanks Silas Ward Mary Holloway Ward Emeline (Muse) Holloway Williams Silas Williams Robert Mouser Amelia Holloway Barnett Josiah (Joe) Barnett Rebecca Holston Thanks guys! You're wonderful!!!! Kelli Staples kmstapl@hotmail.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=294172947 When the buyer was asked, the following information on the persons on the document was provided: > The petitioner is T G Overstreet, the farm worker is named One > Sherrell, the > document is signed by J D Ward, County Clerk. > Yours, walkopp Nalora

"Leaders and Leading Men of the Indian Territory", Vol. I, Choctaws and Chickasaws By H. F. O'Beirne published 1891. page 87 [ a photo of Dr. W. M. Dunn accompanies the bio ] DR. W. M. DUNN, Sr. The subject of this sketch was born near Tallahasse, Florida, December 8, 1828, his father's name being Bryant Dunn, a Georgian by birth and education. Dr. Dunn was educated for the medical profession in Augusta, GA., and commenced practice in 1853. Moving to Choctaw County, Mississippi in the following year. In 1857 he married Miss Selina Yates, daughter of Allen Yates, an extensive farmer. When the war broke out he joined Bragg as a a sergeant, but after two years' campaign his health gave way and he received his discharge. After practicing medicine for some years in Meridian, Mississippi, he moved to Atoka in 1876, and with his family settled in their present home. By his wife, who is of the Hyah-pah-tuk-kalo clan, he has seven children, five of whom are at present living. The oldest (now dead) was Mrs. P. H. Little. The next in order was Margaret, who died in infancy. Dr. A. E. Dunn, of Purcell, Chickasaw Nation; W. M. Dunn Jr. of Atoka; Mrs. J. R. Harris, Neosho, Missouri; Mrs. O. E. White, of Atoka; and Miss Lena Dunn, of Atoka are the surviving members of the family. In 1884 Dr. Dunn was forced to retire from his arduous practice owing to an attack of Bright's disease, which unfortunately carried him off in 1886. As a physician he stood high, while his benevolence to the poor needing treatment was proverbial. A more zealous, painstaking professional man could hardly have been met with. His death was universally regretted, and his loss felt by many in Atoka and the surrounding neighborhood. ----------- Nalora

"Leaders and Leading Men of the Indian Territory", Vol. I, Choctaws and Chickasaws By H. F. O'Beirne published 1891. page 75 [ a photo of William C. York accompanies the bio ] WILLIAM C. YORK William was born in Wayne county Mo, February, 1852. William attended the neighborhood schools until 1873, and in the latter end of that year went to North Texas, where he engaged in the stock business. He remained there for two years, after which he came to Boggy Depot, Choctaw Nation, and commenced farming. In 1876 he married Miss Sarah Ward, a Cherokee, and daughter of Sam Ward, of Boggy depot, and cousin of Hon. H. P. Ward, of Kiowa. By this marriage they had six children, Maud, Ella, Leslie O., Mabel Lee, Willie, Pearl and Benjamin. After his marriage he engaged in the stock business and farming, and is now the owner of a nice little stock of cattle, horses and hogs besides one hundred and fifty acres of land under cultivation. He has also a good coal claim. --------------- Nalora

"Leaders and Leading Men of the Indian Territory", Vol. I, Choctaws and Chickasaws By H. F. O'Beirne published 1891. page 138 [ a photo of Charles Ward accompanies the bio ] CHARLES WARD The subject of this sketch was born close to the Red River, Choctaw Nation, in 1849, and moved to Texas with his parents, returning with them at the close of the war. Education being difficult to procure in those days of strife, Charles had little opportunity afforded him in that respect, most of his learning being acquired beneath the paternal roof. In 1870 he opened a farm and built a home close to Kiowa, and soon acquired a small stock of cattle. In 1874 he married Mary Elizabeth Summers, of Missouri, by whom he has five children living--Charles Oliver, Benjamin F., Mary Elizabeth, William Giles and Aaron. In 1889 he held the office of Deputy county clerk, and in 1890 was appointed deputy sheriff of Tobocksy county. Mr. Ward is an elder of the Christian Church, and has been Sunday School superintendent for many years. He has served as a member of the petit jury of the Moshallatubby district, as also on the grand jury (United States Courts, Second division) at South McAlester in the fall of 1890. Some years ago, seeing the neccesity of a school and church house in his neighborhood, he took the responsibility upon himself, and with the aid of J. S. Doyle erected the building. The school has since been conducted under good management, Mr. Ward being the local trustee. Since that time a parsonage has been built, and the neighborhood is now in a thriving condition. Mr Ward left his old home at one time and settled close to Caddo, in Blue county, but not liking the neighborhood, he soon after returned to Tobocsky county, and settled within eight miles of his old place. He has about one hundred and twenty five acres under cultivation, one hundred head of cattle, one hundred and fifty head of hogs, twenty head of stock horses, and a small herd of sheep. Charles is the brother of Judge Henry Ward, of Atoka county, and like Henry is highly esteemed for his warm, generous and charitable nature, as well as for his strict honesty of purpose and truly Christian bearing. Of these young men, as well as others of the family it is said that a profane word has never yet soiled their lips. ----------- Nalora

"Leaders and Leading Men of the Indian Territory", Vol. I, Choctaws and Chickasaws By H. F. O'Beirne published 1891. page 114 [a photo of Henry P. and a photo of Mrs. Ward accompany the bio] HENRY P. WARD The subject of this sketch was born in March, 1856, at Springtown, Parker county, Texas, being the fourth son of Joseph Ward, of Patterson, New Jersey, a coach-maker by trade, who emigrated to the Indian Territory in 1845, and married Miss Thompson of Doaksville, a member of the Wall and Folsom families. Henry Ward's father moved to Texas in 1855, and did not return until the close of the war, ten years afterward. During his stay in that State he was appointed Captain of the Texas Rangers, and four years guarded the frontier settlements. In 1865 he moved to Blue County, Choctaw Nation, and in five years afterward to Atoka County, settling close to Limestone Gap, where he died in the fall of 1872. Henry recieved most of his education at home, and remained in charge of his mother's affairs after his father's death until his marriage in the summer of 1875, to Miss Mary Dysart, second daughter of James A. Dysart, of Springfield, Mo. Miss Dysart was a young lady of many virtues, and as a wife and mother is of the kind to be loved and respected. In the neighborhood of Limestone Gap Henry commenced agriculture, and in 1882 purchased an additional farm west of Kiowa, where he now resides, surrounded by all the home comforts obtainable through years of energetic industry. He has some two hundred and fifty acres under cultivation, two hundred and seventy-five head of cattle, as well as one-fourth interest in a large coal claim. The first important office held by Mr. Ward was that of Representative of Atoka county in 1888. In 1889 he was appointed by Governor Smallwood to fill an expired term in the Senate for the same county, and gave the greatest satisfaction on both occasions, which was proved by the large majority by which he was elected to the office of County Judge in August 1890, and which office he now holds. In 1885 he joined the Methodist church South, and in 1889 was chosen superintendent of Sunday Schools at Little Boggy. He is a most devoted Christian at home and abroad, on week days as well as on the Sabbath, and is very justly esteemed and beloved by all who know him. Out of ten children born to the family but six have survived---Ella M., Ethel M., Leo Oliver, Louisa E., William David and Eddie. Mrs. Ward is a citizen of the Cherokee Nation, though she has never endeavored to establish her claims. -------------- Nalora

"Leaders and Leading Men of the Indian Territory", Vol. I, Choctaws and Chickasaws By H. F. O'Beirne published 1891. page 38 WILLIAM G. WARD Born November, 1847, in Panola County, I. T., north of old Warren, Texas, is the son of Joseph Ward, a citizen of Newberry, and Elizabeth Thompson, daughter to Giles Thompson, of Boggy Depot, I. T. Moving to Springtown, Parker County, Texas, in his youth, he remained there eleven years, where he recieved education at the public schools. In 1865 he moved to Thompson's Cow Pen (as it was then called) in Blue county, where he lived until 1868, moving the same year to "Limestone Gap" where he married Eliza, daughter of Caleb McDaniell Beck, a Cherokee. During the war, while in Parker County, Mr. Ward joined the county Militia, at eighteen years of age, scouting all along the border until the close of the war. In 1870, and the two following years, he was employed tending his father's stock, after which he moved to his present property, five miles from Caddo, where he has six hundred and forty acres in pasture and two hundred in cultivation. In 1889 he was elected representative for Blue county, and is now a candidate for re-election. In 1886 he joined the Wheel, and the second year became Territorial treasurer, and president of the subordinate Wheel of Blue County in 1890. He has eight children, four boys and four girls; the oldest being named Timothy, now twenty one years of age. -------------- Nalora

"Leaders and Leading Men of the Indian Territory", Vol. I, Choctaws and Chickasaws By H. F. O'Beirne published 1891. page 181 [a photograph of Robert J. Ward is included in the bio] ROBERT J. WARD The subject of this sketch was born at Oak Lodge in July, 1850, and attended the neighborhood schools until 1861. A the termination of the war, however, Robert went back to school and remained there until 1868. In 1875 he commenced clerking for Tibbett and Parks, general merchants at Oak Lodge, and continued in that capacity for seven years. In the meantime he married Ida Barker in 1876. Miss Barker is a Cherokee and sister of W. H. Barker of Muskogee, speaker of the Cherokee lower house. By this union he has eight children, six of whom are living--Sarah E., Susan E., Cora J., Robert J., Ada B., and Irene C., Mr. Ward's first national office was that of sheriff of Skullyville county, which was followed by that of membership in the Choctaw Light Horse, both of which offices he resigned, being unable, owing to other duties, to fill them. From 1875 to 1882, however, he found leisure time to execute the duties of county and circuit clerk. In 1882 he was again elected sheriff of his own county, but resigned in 1886 to take upon himself the duties of national agent, which office he held until 1888, when he was called upon by his people to represent the first district in the national senate. He was reelected in 1890, and now ranks among the ablest of the law-makers. In 1889, in company with Messrs. Standley and Harris, Mr. Ward was appointed as a delegate to confer with the Cherokee commissioners at Talequah in regard to the sale of lands west of the ninety-eighth meridian, and in December of that year was appointed as delegate to Washington on the same errand. Robert is a son of the late Jerimiah Ward, who held many offices, from light horse to circuit judge. Mr. Ward belongs to the Okla-fa-lay-a clan. He is a man of good address, gentlemanly in appearance, if not positively handsome, and bears a good reputation as to integrity, while he is liberal and very good-natured, which latter qualities render him decidedly popular. He is the owner of a farm of three hundred acres of land under good cultivation, a small herd of cattle, and two coal claims, one of which is in operation. --------------- Nalora

"Leaders and Leading Men of the Indian Territory", Vol. I, Choctaws and Chickasaws By H. F. O'Beirne published 1891. Page 147 J. L. WARD The subject of this sketch was born in Weatherford, Parker County, Texas, in 1861, being the son of Joseph Ward of New Jersey, who served as a Captain in the Union Army during the war. The subject of this sketch moved with his family to the Indian Territory when quite a child, and was educated in a public school until 1870, after which he recieved private tuition for fully ten years. In 1880 he commenced stock raising, and three years afterward married Lettie Simmons, an English girl, whome he met in Atoka County. By this marriage he has four children living: Colman James, Lucy Elizabeth, David Robb, and Joseph Henry. In 1890 Mr Ward. was appointed on the Indian Police. He has one hundred and fifty acres of good farm land, one hundred and thirty of which is under cultivation, besides two hundred head of stock cattle. He is a brother of Judge Henry Ward, late senator of the second district, while his second brother, William, has recently been elected as representative of the third district of the Choctaw Nation. Joseph Ward is a young man of excellent business qualifications, is energetic, ambitious, and persevering. These traits are sufficient to suggest great possibilities for his future career. -------------- Nalora