Hi Paul: Do you have that book? If so, I'd like to have a copy of the mentions of the James gang and Cole Younger. Sandi :)

Sandi, In the book ''A FAMILY HISTORY OF JEREMIAH GARDNER, there is a couple of items on the James and Cole Younger, and how they would stop over night Paul

In a message dated 4/3/00 3:29:40 PM, vashti@theshop.net writes: <<MAUPIN, Bradford VI: 10, 283; XXVI: 207 MAUPIN, Helen Eastman XVI: 308n; XXI: 322 MAUPIN, Jim XVI: 308 MAUPIN, John XVI: 309, 310; XXI: 322 MAUPIN, John Harris XVI 308n MAUPIN, John Rice XVI: 308 MAUPIN, Lela XVI: 308n; XXI: 322 MAUPIN, Margaret M. Thompson XVI: 308n MAUPIN, Martha XV: 182 MAUPIN, Robert S., XXIII; 384 MAUPIN, Tolly, XIV: 138 MAUPIN, William B. VI: 11, XVI: 308n; XXVI: 187 >> Hi Nalore: All the above are relatives. Would you let me know what they charge for copies? I'd love to have the articles! Thanks, Sandi :)

Hi Mandy: Thanks for sharing. I'm really interested in the Jesse James gang, not only because two of my relatives, John Rice Maupin and his brother, William, ran with them, but they use to stop in Rush Springs at my GG uncle's farm. He was Silas Edward "Buck" Fitzpatrick. One of his descendants has an account of those visits he is going to snail mail to me. Since my G granddaddy was Uncle Buck's brother and married a Maupin who was a second cousin once removed of John Rice and William Maupin, I'm wondering if that's one reason the James gang picked the farm to stop off by. It would only seem normal that the Maupins who went to Indian Territory would know all others in their family. So, that leaves me to wonder if the visits from that gang were friendly or hostile? I've yet to go to Rush Springs where that section of the family still lives and want to this coming June while in OK. Until then I'm left to wonder if that area was just one of the safer places for gangs to stop back then. From what I've read they liked places where there were hills, or, high places for their lookouts to watch out for lawmen. A Maupin cousin from John Rice Maupin's section sent me a long article on the Colbert Ferry as John was involved in that area and time and married Helen Eastman, in the Colbert family. But, a lot of the various sections of my family married into the Colbert family. They must have been a huge family out there! I've read two books on Indian Territory dealing with hanging Judge Isaac Charles Parker and I had no idea just how bad it was out there in those times. It's a wonder our old ones survived! Sandi :)

The Associated Press, Augusta Maine -- All Maine communities and natural landmarks containing the word "squaw" -- a term considered offensive to women and Indians -- will be renamed under a bill signed Monday by Gov. Angus King. A commission will recommend new names, which are expected to be put into use next year. "It's not just an issue of being politically correct," said Tony Sprague, a spokesman for the governor. "This is a term that is offensive to them, and it shouldn't be used in public places." Minnesota and Montana have adopted similar laws. In Colorado, even the endangered squawfish was renamed the Colorado pike-minnow. The Maine law affects about two dozen mountains, waterways, and other featrures, such as Big Squaw and Little Squaw townships. Priviate entities aren't affected. Members of the Penobscot, Passamaquoddy, Micmac and Maliseet tribes were present as King Signed the bill. Rep. Donna Loring, the Penobscot Nation's representative, said the bill's approval showed that tribal-state relations are improving.

Hello, I am new here and I just want to try and get some information. I found out my great Grandmother was full blooded Choctaw and lived in Oklahoma. All I have is her name and her husbands. They were Arthur and Myrtle Smith. If any one knows anything that could help me e-mail me at lvega@arn.net Thank you so much! Lisa Marti wrote: > > MAPLES, W. S. (Mrs.) - Duke, Jackson Co. > ADAIR, John Martin - Tahlequah, Cherokee Co. > LANGLEY, Andrew J. - Westville, Adair Co. > STARR, Clarence (2 interviews) - Vinita, Craig Co. > much about the Tom Starr War (Ridge Party and Ross Party), Starr family, > and mentions of Younger Brothers, Belle Starr, etc. > HOWLAND, William Rex - Warner, Muskogee Co. > Civil War Battle of Honey Springs in Indian Territory > RIDER, CHARLIE - Holdenville, Hughes Co. > RIDER, Louise - Afton, Ottawa Co. > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Nalora Thank you for the information, you sure are a lot of help. THANK YOU Paul

Sharon In a book put out by the McCurtain County Historical Society, they say that Green never lived in what is now McCurtain County, but the county is named after him Paul

Interesting. Thanks, Paul. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: PELR@aol.com <PELR@aol.com> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Shak-Chi-Homas Tribe? >Sharon In a book put out by the McCurtain County Historical Society, they >say that Green never lived in what is now McCurtain County, but the county is >named after him Paul > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Please support wonderful & FREE genealogy on the internet. Join Rootsweb.com today! http://www.rootsweb.com > >

MAPLES, W. S. (Mrs.) - Duke, Jackson Co. ADAIR, John Martin - Tahlequah, Cherokee Co. LANGLEY, Andrew J. - Westville, Adair Co. STARR, Clarence (2 interviews) - Vinita, Craig Co. much about the Tom Starr War (Ridge Party and Ross Party), Starr family, and mentions of Younger Brothers, Belle Starr, etc. HOWLAND, William Rex - Warner, Muskogee Co. Civil War Battle of Honey Springs in Indian Territory RIDER, CHARLIE - Holdenville, Hughes Co. RIDER, Louise - Afton, Ottawa Co.

I don't know that it was named after Green McCurtain, but I feel sure that it (the County) was named for the McCurtain family. There were so many prominent and important McCurtains: Cornelius, Jackson, and Edmund in addition to Green. -----Original Message----- From: ohyeahright@juno.com <ohyeahright@juno.com> To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Shak-Chi-Homas Tribe? >Sharon, >Was McCurtain County named after Green McCurtain? >If it was, I will feel awfully silly. >This is some interesting information. >I never learned this in school. >Has anyone ever been to the Lukfata Indian School for Girls? >It is near Broken Bow, OK. >I have never been there; but, I have been seeing the sign since I was a >little girl. >.....Mandy > >On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:57:36 -0000 "Sharon DeLoache" ><deloache@intellex.com> writes: >> Sometime ago, my husband and I discovered the San Bois Cemetery >> outside of Kinta, Oklahoma. In that cemetery, surrounded by an iron >> fence, is the grave of Green McCurtain. Immediately outside the >> fence is a tomb stone and a concrete slab on which these words are >> engraved: >> >> "Amy (Mahayia) McCurtain >> Born in Miss. Married Choctaw Chief Cornelius McCurtain and came >> over Trail of Tears. >> Mother of 6 and 3 were chiefs; Jack, Edmond and Green McCurtain. >> Recorded in Archives of Okla. Hist. Soc. and referred to as >> McCurtain Dynasty for they led their people for over 50 yrs. >> Mahayia (On and On) was the Granddaughter of the Historical and >> Beautiful Indian Maiden Sho-Ma-Ka, of the extinct Shak-Chi-Homas >> Indian Tribe. Sho-Ma-Ka's life is one of the most colorful stories >> in the annals of the Five Civilized Tribes. This is recorded in the >> National Archives. >> >> Donated by Grandson of Green McCurtain" >> >> >> None of these folks are in my family, but I am fascinated by the >> "Historical and Beautiful Indian Maiden" and the "extinct >> Shak-Chi-Homas tribe". Does anyone know anything about any of this? >> >> >> ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >> Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list >> possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA >> 93222 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> > > >==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== >Check out the Oklahoma's main web site at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/ >Lots of Native American Links there. > >

Sharon, Was McCurtain County named after Green McCurtain? If it was, I will feel awfully silly. This is some interesting information. I never learned this in school. Has anyone ever been to the Lukfata Indian School for Girls? It is near Broken Bow, OK. I have never been there; but, I have been seeing the sign since I was a little girl. .....Mandy On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:57:36 -0000 "Sharon DeLoache" <deloache@intellex.com> writes: > Sometime ago, my husband and I discovered the San Bois Cemetery > outside of Kinta, Oklahoma. In that cemetery, surrounded by an iron > fence, is the grave of Green McCurtain. Immediately outside the > fence is a tomb stone and a concrete slab on which these words are > engraved: > > "Amy (Mahayia) McCurtain > Born in Miss. Married Choctaw Chief Cornelius McCurtain and came > over Trail of Tears. > Mother of 6 and 3 were chiefs; Jack, Edmond and Green McCurtain. > Recorded in Archives of Okla. Hist. Soc. and referred to as > McCurtain Dynasty for they led their people for over 50 yrs. > Mahayia (On and On) was the Granddaughter of the Historical and > Beautiful Indian Maiden Sho-Ma-Ka, of the extinct Shak-Chi-Homas > Indian Tribe. Sho-Ma-Ka's life is one of the most colorful stories > in the annals of the Five Civilized Tribes. This is recorded in the > National Archives. > > Donated by Grandson of Green McCurtain" > > > None of these folks are in my family, but I am fascinated by the > "Historical and Beautiful Indian Maiden" and the "extinct > Shak-Chi-Homas tribe". Does anyone know anything about any of this? > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list > possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA > 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

The Jesse James gang used to be friends with my great-grandmothers' brothers. When she was still living, she used to tell of "those boys" coming over to her house when she was a little girl. She also said that no one messed with those "James' boys". I love to hear of things that happened in the "old days". ....who doesn't? Also, back in those days, men sometimes changed their names.....especially when they had more than one wife. A step-mother I had had said that her gg-grandfather had a few wives and he'd changed his name. So, no telling what her "real" family name is. Anyway, that my have gotten away from the bloodline. But, I wanted to share that. Thank You, Mandy On Sun, 2 Apr 2000 14:48:59 EDT SandKatC@aol.com writes: > Hi Nalora: > > I wonder who he was? My relative, John Rice Maupin, who ran with > the Jesse > James gang, married into the Colbert family along with a lot of my > other > relatives. But, he only had a daughter. Was there more on that? > > By the way, John Rice Maupin is the one referred to in GOODING & > MAUPIN, the > store. A Maupin cousin sent me a long article on the Colbert Ferry > and the > John was mentioned a number of times. > > Sandi :) > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Pushmataha County, Oklahoma -- > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpushma/PushCo.html >

Does anyone have any information on the descendants of A-Push-ma-ta-ha-hu-bi (Chief Pushmataha)? Tammy

I am searching for the Hunt's and Green Families from Oklahoma and Arkansas. If anyone has any information about these names I would appreciate an email. My grandmother was Laura Mae Hunt, born in Blaine, Oklahoma. Her parents were George Hunt and Missouri Green. I know Missouri was supposed to be Choctaw, and it is believed that George was too. Is there any one searching these names? Thank you, Teresa Whitley

I recently re-published "The First 300 Years" a history of the McCurtains and related families. If you are interested e-mail me privately. Doug Sharon DeLoache wrote: > Sometime ago, my husband and I discovered the San Bois Cemetery outside of Kinta, Oklahoma. In that cemetery, surrounded by an iron fence, is the grave of Green McCurtain. Immediately outside the fence is a tomb stone and a concrete slab on which these words are engraved: > > "Amy (Mahayia) McCurtain > Born in Miss. Married Choctaw Chief Cornelius McCurtain and came over Trail of Tears. > Mother of 6 and 3 were chiefs; Jack, Edmond and Green McCurtain. Recorded in Archives of Okla. Hist. Soc. and referred to as McCurtain Dynasty for they led their people for over 50 yrs. > Mahayia (On and On) was the Granddaughter of the Historical and Beautiful Indian Maiden Sho-Ma-Ka, of the extinct Shak-Chi-Homas Indian Tribe. Sho-Ma-Ka's life is one of the most colorful stories in the annals of the Five Civilized Tribes. This is recorded in the National Archives. > > Donated by Grandson of Green McCurtain" > > None of these folks are in my family, but I am fascinated by the "Historical and Beautiful Indian Maiden" and the "extinct Shak-Chi-Homas tribe". Does anyone know anything about any of this? > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes OKGenWeb and this Choctaw list possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Sometime ago, my husband and I discovered the San Bois Cemetery outside of Kinta, Oklahoma. In that cemetery, surrounded by an iron fence, is the grave of Green McCurtain. Immediately outside the fence is a tomb stone and a concrete slab on which these words are engraved: "Amy (Mahayia) McCurtain Born in Miss. Married Choctaw Chief Cornelius McCurtain and came over Trail of Tears. Mother of 6 and 3 were chiefs; Jack, Edmond and Green McCurtain. Recorded in Archives of Okla. Hist. Soc. and referred to as McCurtain Dynasty for they led their people for over 50 yrs. Mahayia (On and On) was the Granddaughter of the Historical and Beautiful Indian Maiden Sho-Ma-Ka, of the extinct Shak-Chi-Homas Indian Tribe. Sho-Ma-Ka's life is one of the most colorful stories in the annals of the Five Civilized Tribes. This is recorded in the National Archives. Donated by Grandson of Green McCurtain" None of these folks are in my family, but I am fascinated by the "Historical and Beautiful Indian Maiden" and the "extinct Shak-Chi-Homas tribe". Does anyone know anything about any of this?

My husband tells everyone that I would have to dust the stove off in order to use it. :o). Have a great day. Jo Gottman ----- Original Message ----- From: Markie <mlo99@bellsouth.net> To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] Choctaw Dress > Hey Sandi! > > Kitchen? Dinner? What is that?? I tore that room off of my house when > all the kids grew up! heeheehee... I have REtired! Hubby says... so > THAT'S what you call it!! LOL > > Markie > > At 07:13 PM 04/02/2000 EDT, you wrote: > > > >In a message dated 4/2/00 4:07:44 PM, mlo99@bellsouth.net writes: > > > ><<http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/dress.htm>> > > > >Hi Markie Girl: > > > >I just checked out the dresses. Gee, why do you keep putting off making > >yours? I want one without the apron. My husband might think it was time > for > >me to go in the kitchen and make dinner! LOL > > > >Sandi :) > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW Mailing List ==== > Check out the Oklahoma's main web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/ > Lots of Native American Links there. >

Sandi: >From The Chronicles of Oklahoma, 1921-1959 Cummulative Index, Published by the Oklahoma Historical Society, 1961 [I own the index, but I do not own many of the early Chronicles, only from 1954 onward, and I am still missing many copies. I do have access to all of them at the Archives at the OHS in OKC--For conversion to year, 1921 = Vol. I, quarterly published at approx. 100-150 pgs. per quarterly] MAUPIN, Bradford VI: 10, 283; XXVI: 207 MAUPIN, Helen Eastman XVI: 308n; XXI: 322 MAUPIN, Jim XVI: 308 MAUPIN, John XVI: 309, 310; XXI: 322 MAUPIN, John Harris XVI 308n MAUPIN, John Rice XVI: 308 MAUPIN, Lela XVI: 308n; XXI: 322 MAUPIN, Margaret M. Thompson XVI: 308n MAUPIN, Martha XV: 182 MAUPIN, Robert S., XXIII; 384 MAUPIN, Tolly, XIV: 138 MAUPIN, William B. VI: 11, XVI: 308n; XXVI: 187 There are no MAUPIN listed in Cumulative Index Vol 2. (1960-1979) Nalora

Sherry I would love to buy one of the Indian dresses.Could someone let me know a price.I am Choctaw and would love size 12. Thanks Vickie