This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1408.1 Message Board Post: GWA Found some census info that might be helpful. 1920 Neshoba Co MS Dixon + Waldo ED 85 PG 4A DW 65 FN 71 WILLIS Finis 20 Male Indian b MS Parents b MS WILLIS Zelmer 20 Female Indian b MS Parents b MS WILLIS Clennie 5/12 Female Indian b MS 1900 Neshoba Co MS Dixon + Waldo ED 45 PG 1B DW 8 FN 11 WILLIS Johnson 37 Male Indian b MS Parents b MS WILLIS Safronia 35 Female Indian b MS Parents b MS WILLIS Leona 13 Female Indian b MS WILLIS Spinks 10 Male Indian b MS WILLIS Coughran 8 Male Indian b MS WILLIS Finis 3 Male Indian b MS June 1896 SSDI has a listing for Finis WILLIS, but DoB is given as March 4 1897. http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi Kathy Roberts VA

DENNIS, IN YOUR MISSISSPPI DO YOU HAVE A JESSIE WILSON BORN ABOUT 1819 MARRIED TO UNKNOWN-- DAUGHTER MARY JANE WILSON 1845 BUT ON A OK CENSUS SHOWS TO BE 1835 .MARY SAID COULD NOT REMEMBER HER MOTHER OR HER NAME SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG CHILD THE # I FOUND 3142 DO YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THIS IT IS JESSIE WILSON AND A LIZZIE WILSON. THEY SAID THIS WAS THE CORRECT ONE BUT??? THANKS KAY

> Name: Sula Stephens > SSN: 427-92-0906 > Last Residence: 38829 Booneville, Prentiss, Mississippi, United > States of America > Born: 23 Mar 1888 > Died: Oct 1977 > State (Year) SSN issued: Mississippi (1962 ) > > 1920 United States Federal Census Record > Name: Clennie Willis > Home in 1920: Dixon and Waldo, Neshoba, Mississippi > Age: 5 months > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1919 > BirthPlace: Mississippi > Relation to Head of House: Daughter > Father's name: Finis > Father's Birth Place: Mississippi > Mother's name: Zelmer > Mother's Birth Place: Mississippi > Marital status: Single > Race: Indian > Sex: Female > Image: 420 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Finis Willis 20 > Zelmer Willis 20 > Clennie Willis 5/12 > > > > > Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Dixon and Waldo, > Neshoba, Mississippi; Roll: T625_888; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 85; > Image: 420. > > > Source Information: > > Description: > This database is an index to individuals enumerated in the 1920 > United States Federal Census, the Fourteenth Census of the United States. > It > includes all states and territories, as well as Military and Naval Forces, > the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, and the Panama > Canal > Zone. The census provides many details about individuals and families > including: name, gender, age, birthplace, year of immigration, mother > tongue, and parents' birthplaces. In addition, the names of those listed > on > the population schedule are linked to actual images of the 1920 Federal > Census. > > > > Copyright © 1998-2006, MyFamily.com Inc. > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/1409.1 Message Board Post: I'm not Dennis, but there were three census/rolls done on the Mississippi Choctaw. Two were of those in Mississippi - the 1865 Cooper Roll and the 1831 Armstrong Roll. I have both of these rolls if you need a lookup. Write to me at dustyc@microgear.net.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Farmer, Stephens, Willis of Mississippi Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/1409 Message Board Post: Dennis do you have any list or know where I may get a list of Choctaw Names from 1800-1930 in Neshoba Co. Mississippi. I tried to get info from Miss. Band of Choctaw Indians and they have little. I am trying to zero in on Farmers (Ishaman - Mose), Stephens (Suella), and Willis (Finis, Zelmer and Clennie Sue). Your assistance would be most appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Farmer, Stephens, Willis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4gC.2ACE/1408 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Farmers (Ishman - Moses), Stephens (Suella), Willis (Clennie, Finis, Zelmer) of Mississippi in around Neshoba (Dixon, Waldo, Mogulusha, Philadelphia, Union, Tucker) & surrounding counties. Trying to start a genealogy family tree for the familymy wife's family.

OH HOW WONDERFUL TELL ME HOW AND WHAT I NEED TO DO OH SUCH GOOD NEWS HOPEFULLY YOU ARE CORRECT MY MOM IS 86 YEARS OLD BORN IN OK 1920 IN TUSHKAHOM A WILLIAMS HER MOM WAS MATILDA PHILLIPS PLEASE TELL WHAT DO I DO NOW !!!!!!!! THANKS KAY

Halito Kay: I apologize for taking so long to respond. I do have good news, however. I believe the number 1217 is in fact an application#. The MCR# seem to follow a different series. The name I have for that number is James W. Cheatham. Other application numbers associated with him are: 1212 and 1305. The MCR # associated with these application# are:7010 and 7156. Another number associated with this family is application# 1218 and MCR# 7183. The name associated with these numbers is Lizzie (Cheatham) Chappell. Don't be discouraged if these aren't names you have been looking for, because the names are the persons who filed the applications. Other surnames are almost always mentioned in the application. I hope this helps. If I am correct, then we are related. Imafo Riportel@aol.com wrote: WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK MY SURNAMES SURNAMES ON M 1217 CHOCTAW NATION SAID THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY RECORD ON THEM M 1217 BUT I HAVE A COPY FROM THE OK HISTORICAL SOCIETY JAMES, MALINDA AND CLEARIE PHILLIPS FROM OK MARY JANE WILSON--HAGEWOOD-- IW 1509 THANKS KAY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McCarley/Swafford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1379.3 Message Board Post: My husband's gggrandmother was Josie McCarley b. 1875 in AR. She eloped with James Andrew Swafford b. 1872 in Crawford Co. MO and they married Nov. 25, 1894 in Hunt Co. TX. We know next to nothing about her or her family. The legend is that she was Choctaw and her brothers followed them to the Red River and then stopped on the OK side and let them go on. The next the family saw of them was when she died in the winter of 1900-01. They just showed up outside the gate one day because they knew she was dying, no one had contacted them because they didn't know how. Their son Robert Lloyd Swafford and his brother Marshall were then raised in an orphan home for several years until Jim could support him again. My late mother-in-law, Inez Swafford Alvey started working on the family several years before she died and thought that Josie must have been Cherokee, but I've found more McCarleys in the Choctaw family trees. Do any of these sound familiar to you?

Rusty, nice to see your site back up online...I noticed some missing info on the Brashears family...I have them listed on my site Jennifer Mieirs My genealogy webpage http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com > [Original Message] > From: <yellowfeather@cox.net> > To: <choctaw@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/21/2006 5:18:03 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] John and Charles Cox -Rachel Harmon Walker > > Frankie, > I have my website back up but some links are broken. let me know if my Brashears info is correct. thanks, rusty > ---- Taloah@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > > What Brashears line do you claim? I have been chasing a Brashears connection > > for the my Turnbulls for a long time. Recently one did appear, but I find it > > suspect. I am afraid someone may have taken my speculated information and > > reformed it into fact, then fed it back into the system. The names Brashears as > > well as Turner are rampant in the Choctaw Turnbulls. From the Samuels' book of > > the original enrollees, I recall the Daniels had a Brashears connection. > > If the Brashears connection I am speaking of was valid, it would be so > > wonderful to have finally closed this loop, but I am skeptical. I believe it has > > originated (although the writing sounds a lot like mine) with a site in > > Texas. Red something or other. The Brashears person who has come as a surprise to > > some of us is said to be a daughter of Jane Hotioka and Chief Tobacca, who > > married Turner Brashears, among who children was a child named Sarah, born c. > > 1795-97, who married my George Turnbull, son of John Turnbull, Scottish trader > > among the Chickasaw and Choctaw and an unnamed Chickasaw woman c. 1768. John also > > possibly had a Choctaw (wife ?) Winnefred by whom he fathered Susannah, later > > adopted by Thomas Vaughn. Susannah, b. c. 1768, who was the 2nd wife of Zadoc > > Brashears. Just a little confusing even if the players have numbers. She was > > possibly 1/2 sister to my George and his brother William. There was some sort > > of very close tie, but never verified. > > The a fore mentioned Sarah Brashears if she existed and if truly married > > to George Turnbull would have been my 3rd great grandmother. Supposedly this > > is also supported in the Mormon records. I would like an independent > > verification if someone has such that this Sarah Brashears existed. There was a > > Catholic element introduced at this point in this family, at Susannah's and Zadoc's > > time in the event of their first born, Mary. For the Catholic baptism of Mary > > and Sylvia, daughter of John Turnbull, the trader, and another Chickasaw > > woman. He was present as was his white wife, Chickasaw woman, Belcy, Susannah and > > Zadoc.-- odd gathering for not very religious people. > > Do you have any information on any of these? Thanks, > > Frankie James, 4th great granddaughter, John Turnbull the Scottish Trader, > > born c. 1737, Dumfrieshire Scotland, died in Baton Rouge, LA 1799 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any message that is gatewayed into our list from another page (as in the below posting) cannot be replied to on this list. You must click on the blue address on the original message and reply on that board. If you reply to this list, the poster cannot see your reply. dusty List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayne Weichert" <jaynekelly@sbcglobal.net> To: <choctaw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW] : John and Charles Cox -Rachel Harmon Walker > Do you have a Charles Raymond Cox in your family line ? ..... he lived in Texas, California and Oregon I think > Thanks > Jayne > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: twopaw2@kanab.net > To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:40:12 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] John and Charles Cox -Rachel Harmon Walker > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Cox, Daniels, Brashears, Laflore > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1391.1.3 > > Message Board Post: > > Letha Daniels-Cox-Smith and Charles Cox were my great great grandparents. Joseph R. Cox was my great grandpa and his son, Charlie was my Grandpa. My Grandpa was named after his Grandpa Charles Cox, My dad was named after Joseph. I do not know where great-great Grandpa Charles is buried or even if he was Indian. Letha was the great grandaughter of Isabella Leflore, Greenwood Leflore's sister. Letha is buried in the Dog Creek cemetery near Shady Point, OK. Joseph R. is buried in the Old Panther cemetery near McCurtain, OK. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where did you get this information? roberson@ocsnet.net wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Nelson, Usher Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1241.1 Message Board Post: Just found a listing indicating that there was a Jesse Nelson who received Choctaw Scrip... http://www.geocities.com/heartland/bluffs/3010/dale23.html SECTION 34 - T4N R23E W/SW 34 4N 23E Bass* James 120B CS 1851/01/16 (* Assignee of Jesse Nelson) CS indicates Choctaw Scrip. C = cash, H = Homestead. Would like additional information on Jesse and/or his family. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.

I have Bohanans listed on my website, that I recently got back up. but some links back to home are broken so you have to use the "back" button. Let me know if you find any mistakes. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/index also check out my 1885 choctaw census. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~choc1885/ ---- Richard Wilson <imafo.hopiah@yahoo.com> wrote: > Halito, > > I have a list of all of my ancestors who attempted enrollment under the Dawes' Commission. this list includes the MCR numbers and the application numbers. I do have Whites and Reynolds on this list. Would you be interested in in this info.? I would like to have some more of your surnames so that I can check them against the list. > > Imafo > > marmsie929@aol.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Pennington Norris White Anderson > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/972.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I saw your mention of Pennington family. Would your line have any of these names. > James Pennington b.abt.1850 N.C.(probably Ashe N.C.) d. Jamckson Co.,Ten > Elizabeth b. abt 1810 wife > children > Mariah b abt 1827 Ten. > David b. abt.1829 Tenn > Fanny b. abt 1831 Tenn, > Fowler Simon b. abt.1833 Tenn > Margaret b abty 1835 > Milton b. abt 1838 > Children of Fowler Simon Pennington and ? Almary McCullough or Simmerman or Zimmerman or Reynolds or Renolds > Sarah Ellen "Sallie" Pennington b.Jan 22,1866 Tenn m. Creed Taylor Norris in Cumberland Co.,Ky on Apr 7,1881 d. Mar 10,1947 in Cumberland Co.,Ky > John Allen Pennington b.Aug 14,1860 Cooper Co.,Mo m.#1 Alice Haynes bef 1890 m.#2 Martha A. White Sep 11,1892 d.May 11,1935 Chocktaw Co.,Ok > J.M.( probably James Milton) m. Maggie White > J.M. was in Cooper Co.,Mo for a while as he and Maggie have an infant buried in the Pisquah Cemetery in Cooper Co.,Mo. > We know that some of the family of Fowler Simon Pennington was also in Monroe Co.,Ky which is a neighboring county of Cumberland Co. Some may also have been in Barren Co.,Ky > Do any of these ring a bell and if so are they Chocktaw? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Frankie, I have my website back up but some links are broken. let me know if my Brashears info is correct. thanks, rusty ---- Taloah@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > What Brashears line do you claim? I have been chasing a Brashears connection > for the my Turnbulls for a long time. Recently one did appear, but I find it > suspect. I am afraid someone may have taken my speculated information and > reformed it into fact, then fed it back into the system. The names Brashears as > well as Turner are rampant in the Choctaw Turnbulls. From the Samuels' book of > the original enrollees, I recall the Daniels had a Brashears connection. > If the Brashears connection I am speaking of was valid, it would be so > wonderful to have finally closed this loop, but I am skeptical. I believe it has > originated (although the writing sounds a lot like mine) with a site in > Texas. Red something or other. The Brashears person who has come as a surprise to > some of us is said to be a daughter of Jane Hotioka and Chief Tobacca, who > married Turner Brashears, among who children was a child named Sarah, born c. > 1795-97, who married my George Turnbull, son of John Turnbull, Scottish trader > among the Chickasaw and Choctaw and an unnamed Chickasaw woman c. 1768. John also > possibly had a Choctaw (wife ?) Winnefred by whom he fathered Susannah, later > adopted by Thomas Vaughn. Susannah, b. c. 1768, who was the 2nd wife of Zadoc > Brashears. Just a little confusing even if the players have numbers. She was > possibly 1/2 sister to my George and his brother William. There was some sort > of very close tie, but never verified. > The a fore mentioned Sarah Brashears if she existed and if truly married > to George Turnbull would have been my 3rd great grandmother. Supposedly this > is also supported in the Mormon records. I would like an independent > verification if someone has such that this Sarah Brashears existed. There was a > Catholic element introduced at this point in this family, at Susannah's and Zadoc's > time in the event of their first born, Mary. For the Catholic baptism of Mary > and Sylvia, daughter of John Turnbull, the trader, and another Chickasaw > woman. He was present as was his white wife, Chickasaw woman, Belcy, Susannah and > Zadoc.-- odd gathering for not very religious people. > Do you have any information on any of these? Thanks, > Frankie James, 4th great granddaughter, John Turnbull the Scottish Trader, > born c. 1737, Dumfrieshire Scotland, died in Baton Rouge, LA 1799 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Brashears on my website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/index ---- Jennifer Mieirs <shewhoseeks@ipa.net> wrote: > I have been corresponding with Joyce Gilley, another descendant of Letha > Cox...I know this family well...the family marries into my Trahern's. Letha > Daniels Cox's daughter Emma, had son Joseph with Lysander Trahern. Letha's > sister Lucinda Daniels married Albert Mckee Pike, son of David Folsom and > Jane Hall. Turner Daniels married Susan Leflore, daughter of Adam and > Sophia Leflore (cousins), thier son Greenwood married Minnie Trahern. > Turner Brashears, another son by a second wife, married Bessie Newton, > daughter of Catherine Trahern. Though the dawes card says differently, the > family of Willis Daniel's admits that Susanna Daniels, daughter of Louvenia > Trahern, was the daughter of Willis Daniels. I will send you some > information...though Alfred can't be traced back, or hasn't been, Alfred > was married to Mary Brashears, the daughter of Vaughn Brashears and > Isabella Leflore. Isabella was the sister to Greenwood Leflore, and Vaughn > was the son of Zadoc Brashears. They emigrated early to IT. > Jen > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <twopaw2@kanab.net> > > To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 9/20/2006 11:49:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] John and Charles Cox -Rachel Harmon Walker > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Cox, Daniels, Brashears, Laflore > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1391.1.3 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Letha Daniels-Cox-Smith and Charles Cox were my great great grandparents. > Joseph R. Cox was my great grandpa and his son, Charlie was my Grandpa. My > Grandpa was named after his Grandpa Charles Cox, My dad was named after > Joseph. I do not know where great-great Grandpa Charles is buried or even > if he was Indian. Letha was the great grandaughter of Isabella Leflore, > Greenwood Leflore's sister. Letha is buried in the Dog Creek cemetery near > Shady Point, OK. Joseph R. is buried in the Old Panther cemetery near > McCurtain, OK. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been corresponding with Joyce Gilley, another descendant of Letha Cox...I know this family well...the family marries into my Trahern's. Letha Daniels Cox's daughter Emma, had son Joseph with Lysander Trahern. Letha's sister Lucinda Daniels married Albert Mckee Pike, son of David Folsom and Jane Hall. Turner Daniels married Susan Leflore, daughter of Adam and Sophia Leflore (cousins), thier son Greenwood married Minnie Trahern. Turner Brashears, another son by a second wife, married Bessie Newton, daughter of Catherine Trahern. Though the dawes card says differently, the family of Willis Daniel's admits that Susanna Daniels, daughter of Louvenia Trahern, was the daughter of Willis Daniels. I will send you some information...though Alfred can't be traced back, or hasn't been, Alfred was married to Mary Brashears, the daughter of Vaughn Brashears and Isabella Leflore. Isabella was the sister to Greenwood Leflore, and Vaughn was the son of Zadoc Brashears. They emigrated early to IT. Jen > [Original Message] > From: <twopaw2@kanab.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/20/2006 11:49:48 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] John and Charles Cox -Rachel Harmon Walker > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Cox, Daniels, Brashears, Laflore > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1391.1.3 > > Message Board Post: > > Letha Daniels-Cox-Smith and Charles Cox were my great great grandparents. Joseph R. Cox was my great grandpa and his son, Charlie was my Grandpa. My Grandpa was named after his Grandpa Charles Cox, My dad was named after Joseph. I do not know where great-great Grandpa Charles is buried or even if he was Indian. Letha was the great grandaughter of Isabella Leflore, Greenwood Leflore's sister. Letha is buried in the Dog Creek cemetery near Shady Point, OK. Joseph R. is buried in the Old Panther cemetery near McCurtain, OK. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Frankie, How have you been? I had heard that it was a sister of Turner's wife that married George Turnbull..though that source claims it's Apuckanubbee and not Tobacca as the father. Dr. Greg O Brien suggests Apuckanubbee, was either Peyahuma's nephew, or son, and that Peyahuma and Tobacca were married to sister's of Franchimastubbee...so, lol, I guess it was all in the family...Jen > [Original Message] > From: <Taloah@aol.com> > To: <choctaw@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/20/2006 2:55:14 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] John and Charles Cox -Rachel Harmon Walker > > Hi, > What Brashears line do you claim? I have been chasing a Brashears connection > for the my Turnbulls for a long time. Recently one did appear, but I find it > suspect. I am afraid someone may have taken my speculated information and > reformed it into fact, then fed it back into the system. The names Brashears as > well as Turner are rampant in the Choctaw Turnbulls. From the Samuels' book of > the original enrollees, I recall the Daniels had a Brashears connection. > If the Brashears connection I am speaking of was valid, it would be so > wonderful to have finally closed this loop, but I am skeptical. I believe it has > originated (although the writing sounds a lot like mine) with a site in > Texas. Red something or other. The Brashears person who has come as a surprise to > some of us is said to be a daughter of Jane Hotioka and Chief Tobacca, who > married Turner Brashears, among who children was a child named Sarah, born c. > 1795-97, who married my George Turnbull, son of John Turnbull, Scottish trader > among the Chickasaw and Choctaw and an unnamed Chickasaw woman c. 1768. John also > possibly had a Choctaw (wife ?) Winnefred by whom he fathered Susannah, later > adopted by Thomas Vaughn. Susannah, b. c. 1768, who was the 2nd wife of Zadoc > Brashears. Just a little confusing even if the players have numbers. She was > possibly 1/2 sister to my George and his brother William. There was some sort > of very close tie, but never verified. > The a fore mentioned Sarah Brashears if she existed and if truly married > to George Turnbull would have been my 3rd great grandmother. Supposedly this > is also supported in the Mormon records. I would like an independent > verification if someone has such that this Sarah Brashears existed. There was a > Catholic element introduced at this point in this family, at Susannah's and Zadoc's > time in the event of their first born, Mary. For the Catholic baptism of Mary > and Sylvia, daughter of John Turnbull, the trader, and another Chickasaw > woman. He was present as was his white wife, Chickasaw woman, Belcy, Susannah and > Zadoc.-- odd gathering for not very religious people. > Do you have any information on any of these? Thanks, > Frankie James, 4th great granddaughter, John Turnbull the Scottish Trader, > born c. 1737, Dumfrieshire Scotland, died in Baton Rouge, LA 1799 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, What Brashears line do you claim? I have been chasing a Brashears connection for the my Turnbulls for a long time. Recently one did appear, but I find it suspect. I am afraid someone may have taken my speculated information and reformed it into fact, then fed it back into the system. The names Brashears as well as Turner are rampant in the Choctaw Turnbulls. From the Samuels' book of the original enrollees, I recall the Daniels had a Brashears connection. If the Brashears connection I am speaking of was valid, it would be so wonderful to have finally closed this loop, but I am skeptical. I believe it has originated (although the writing sounds a lot like mine) with a site in Texas. Red something or other. The Brashears person who has come as a surprise to some of us is said to be a daughter of Jane Hotioka and Chief Tobacca, who married Turner Brashears, among who children was a child named Sarah, born c. 1795-97, who married my George Turnbull, son of John Turnbull, Scottish trader among the Chickasaw and Choctaw and an unnamed Chickasaw woman c. 1768. John also possibly had a Choctaw (wife ?) Winnefred by whom he fathered Susannah, later adopted by Thomas Vaughn. Susannah, b. c. 1768, who was the 2nd wife of Zadoc Brashears. Just a little confusing even if the players have numbers. She was possibly 1/2 sister to my George and his brother William. There was some sort of very close tie, but never verified. The a fore mentioned Sarah Brashears if she existed and if truly married to George Turnbull would have been my 3rd great grandmother. Supposedly this is also supported in the Mormon records. I would like an independent verification if someone has such that this Sarah Brashears existed. There was a Catholic element introduced at this point in this family, at Susannah's and Zadoc's time in the event of their first born, Mary. For the Catholic baptism of Mary and Sylvia, daughter of John Turnbull, the trader, and another Chickasaw woman. He was present as was his white wife, Chickasaw woman, Belcy, Susannah and Zadoc.-- odd gathering for not very religious people. Do you have any information on any of these? Thanks, Frankie James, 4th great granddaughter, John Turnbull the Scottish Trader, born c. 1737, Dumfrieshire Scotland, died in Baton Rouge, LA 1799

Do you have a Charles Raymond Cox in your family line ? ..... he lived in Texas, California and Oregon I think Thanks Jayne ----- Original Message ---- From: twopaw2@kanab.net To: CHOCTAW-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:40:12 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW] John and Charles Cox -Rachel Harmon Walker This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cox, Daniels, Brashears, Laflore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1391.1.3 Message Board Post: Letha Daniels-Cox-Smith and Charles Cox were my great great grandparents. Joseph R. Cox was my great grandpa and his son, Charlie was my Grandpa. My Grandpa was named after his Grandpa Charles Cox, My dad was named after Joseph. I do not know where great-great Grandpa Charles is buried or even if he was Indian. Letha was the great grandaughter of Isabella Leflore, Greenwood Leflore's sister. Letha is buried in the Dog Creek cemetery near Shady Point, OK. Joseph R. is buried in the Old Panther cemetery near McCurtain, OK. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cox, Daniels, Brashears, Laflore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/1391.1.3 Message Board Post: Letha Daniels-Cox-Smith and Charles Cox were my great great grandparents. Joseph R. Cox was my great grandpa and his son, Charlie was my Grandpa. My Grandpa was named after his Grandpa Charles Cox, My dad was named after Joseph. I do not know where great-great Grandpa Charles is buried or even if he was Indian. Letha was the great grandaughter of Isabella Leflore, Greenwood Leflore's sister. Letha is buried in the Dog Creek cemetery near Shady Point, OK. Joseph R. is buried in the Old Panther cemetery near McCurtain, OK.