This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BORGMAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iRC.2ACE/367 Message Board Post: HELLO! I AM LOOKING FOR POSSIBLE INFORMATION REGARDING CAPTAIN BORGMAN WHO DIED ENROUTE TO SHANGHAI IN THE EARLY 1900'S WHILE ON A VOYAGE. HAS ANYONE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM? THANKS! Margo

After much research, I finally discovered that I am a descendant of Huang2 Qiao4shan1 (872-953), not of Huang Shougong (the founder of the Zi Yun branch of the Huang Clan) as I had previously believed. Huang2 Qiao4shan1 is named the 117th generation of the Huang Clan in the "Huang Clan Genealogy of Shaowu, Fujian". He held the office of the Minister of Works (Gong1 Bu4 Shang4 Shu1) during the reign of the Tang Emperor Zhuangzong. He had three wives- Guan1 Shi4, Wu3 Shi4, Zheng4 Shi4 ("Shi4"= Surname, ancestresses are only known by their Surname in genealogies) and fathered 21 sons, all of whom held important posts in the Imperial Government. Over a period of 1,200 years, his descendants number more than 10 million today. 16 generations from Huang2 Qiao4Shan1 was Huang2 Fu4Dan4 (132th generation of the Huang Clan). The "Huang Clan Genealogy of Yunxiao, Fujian" recorded that "he moved to Zhangpu and his descendants later moved to Gaokeng in Zhao'an (county) and Jiaotou in Dongshan (county), Fujian." My ancestral village is Gaokeng in Zhao'an, Fujian. In our ancestral village we have an old family poem about Huang2 Qiao4Shan1 which was handed down from generation to generation. The first generation founder ancestor of my village was Huang2 Tian1hai3 (born circa AD 1425). There is still a missing link from Huang2 Fu4Dan4 to Huang2 Tian1hai3 but the latter is believed to be the former's great-grand-son . If this is true that would make Huang2 Tian1hai3 the 135th generation of the Huang Clan. (This has yet to be verified as I have no reference to the "Huang Clan genealogy of Zhangpu, Fujian"). I am Huang2 Tian1hai3's 17th generation descendant, (the 151st generation? descendant of the Huang Clan). Our village has no genealogy but ancestors' names could be known from the ancestral tablets in the Ancestral Hall which are arranged according to the Seniority of Generation. If any of you who are descendants of Huang2 Qiao4Shan1 happen to read this and have in your possession the "Huang Clan genealogy of Zhangpu, Fujian", I would be very glad if you would help me look into the genealogy and provide me the msiing link from Huang2 Fu4dan4 to Huang2 Tian1hai3. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Huang Baoxin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com