In a message dated 07/13/2000 10:18:20 Pacific Daylight Time, tk_chartrand@hotmail.com writes: << I'm interested in any information on any Engs/Ings/Ngs related to my dad's side of the family. My dad's parents are Allen and Magie Eng and immigrated to Canada in the 1940's. >> Hello Kathleen, If you have place names you can probably get death records for your grandparents that will list their parents' names. I'm in the States and I know American death certificates have that information. Have you tried that? Or obituaries? Judy Rebbeck Watten northern California