Dear Jeff, My mother is a Cheung and she is part Hakka as well. Unfortunately, I know even less about her family than you do of yours. Maybe someone here can help us. I do find it interesting that she is Hakka and has the same last name, too. SN

I believe that there are about 70 people subscribing to this e-mail list. That is a small number of people constantly receiving mailings to this list. Earlier, I asked if there were any descendants of Chow Shun Cheong subscribing to this list and got no reply. I, also, asked if anyone was familiar with Chow Shun Cheong's genealogy tree and, also, got no reply. In an earlier posting, I, mentioned that if anyone wants help with their family genealogy they should ban together, network with others. By volunteering to help others, in the general community, find their genealogy, you will have a better idea of you own tree. I would assume that most people aren't interested in helping others and will drop out of this group in a very short time, if no one responds to them by e-mail. In a small group of 70, it is very unlikely that anyone in the group will have information on your roots. I, also, suspect that some of the subscribers to this group are professional genealogist. Probably, even from Cyndi's. I do genealogy work as a layman for the Chinese community in Hawaii, so I'll be around on this mailing list for some time. If anyone wants to communicate with me by private e-mail about Chinese genealogy in general or about Chinese genealogy from the Chungshan District in mainland China (this includes Hawaii's Chinese community genealogy), please write. If you are having trouble finding your family's genealogy and want others to help you, sometimes you have to volunteer to help others in order to eventually be able to find yours. By writing to me and volunteering to help others, you may gain the knowledge to find your roots. My family tree is partially published at my website http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Courtyard/1535/cha_pu.html. It is in 16 plus volumns of writings, all in Chinese, and goes back to 2205 BC and earlier. I have a small library of between 40 to 60 Chinese surnames. If someone puts a notice in this mailing list asking for genealogy information, I would have to take weeks to months to find your genealogy, doing it full time. That is too much work and so volunteers are needed. Please write to me in private to inquire as to what volunteering is all about. Lastly, not many Chinese know the Imperial history of China's Imperial family. Not even many of Hawaii's local Chinese. If you last name is Chow, Chang, Lum, Wong, Ching, Ing, Goo, Sun, Ho, Choy, Dang, Young, Siu, Yap, Lai, Mao, Kwock, Loui, or Lau then you belong to the Chou Dynasty and are an Imperial Chinese prince or princess. In order to find your genealogy, it's best to write me and volunteer to help others. In the process you may likely find yours! Write or call: Lester D. K. Chow P.o. Box 4604 Honolulu, Hawaii 96812 (808) 538-1855 lchow@lava.net -- Lester D. K. Chow and Associates, International Political Consultants and Conflict Resolution Specialists. http://lchow.webvis.net/temp.html Official representative for China's Imperial family, for those members who reside abroad in the United States of America.