Posted on: General China Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General/311 Surname: WU ------------------------- I'm looking for any information one might have on the WU family of ChungShan, Kwangtung China in the early 1900's. I believe WU Tieh-chen was possibly a Mayor of Shanghai at some point and the secretary general of the kuomingtang party - Any help would be great. WU Tieh-chen or WU Tze-chuan of Kwangtung China

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Christina wrote: > Posted on: General China Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General/311 > > Surname: WU > ------------------------- > > I'm looking for any information one might have on the WU family of ChungShan, > Kwangtung China in the early 1900's. I believe WU Tieh-chen was possibly > a Mayor of Shanghai at some point and the secretary general of the kuomingtang > party - Any help would be great. WU Tieh-chen or WU Tze-chuan of Kwangtung > China Dear Christina, Well-over 70% of Hawaii's local Chinese community comes from Chungshan. Hawaii's local Chinese community is a good source to tap into for genealogy information. In many of my earlier postings, I have made appeals to list members to get in touch with me as I am trying to organize a small group of people in Hawaii to volunteer to do genealogy research and to help other people, especially from Hawaii or kin, know their roots and find their genealogy trees. From my own experience in Hawaii, I've found that many local Chinese have given up searching for their roots and have taken the position that records do not exist. The local "scholars" have been of no help to them. Contrary to this experience of theirs, I have helped a number of people, both in Hawaii and in mainland U.S. locate kin and genealogy trees. In cases, where I could be of no help, I have given people a sense of, at least, their family background (family or clan's history). I found that this takes a lot of my time and I do not have the time to devote to every soul asking for genealogy for free. A professional genealogist charges between $80 to $160 per hour with no results guaranteed (refer to http://www.idis.com/ChouOnline). I therefore suggested that if people would like to find their genealogy, one alternative would be to volunteer to help others. In the process, they will gain insight and knowledge and be able to locate at least some, if not all, the information they are seeking. If members of this list live in Hawaii, I would encourage them to get in touch with me. I would like to put a genealogy research group together, of volunteers, people who enjoy the study of genealogy. I have a lot of knowledge and research techniques to share with others free of charge. If people on this list live outside of Hawaii, they should write me their needs (don't expect me to come up with all of the answers immediately, though) and I will see what I can do for you. I have already found kin and genealogy roots for some people asking. As to your concern, about WU Tieh-chen or WU Tze-chuan. If he was Mayor of Shanghai or Secretary-General of the Kuoming Tong, there would be information that you can find out about him. I can, perhaps, help. If you are family, there would be the chance that more information could be found and you could be put in touch with family members. Information, sometimes, depending on what you are asking for, can not be given out to any "Tom, Dick, or Harry." Here in Hawaii, we do have our connections to both mainland China as well as to Taiwan. Additionally, my grandfather lived near Shanghai and may still have family connections there, which I could ask to help you. Things take time and people in mainland China do not respond immediately as most Americans (including Chinese-Americans) seem to DEMAND. So, what I am saying to the group and to you is that genealogy, history, and information assistance is available. What I need for, my part, is volunteers, in Hawaii, to do the leg work. If others are interested in much the same things, but they live outside of Hawaii. I would be happy if they could join our group, when it forms. If for example, someone lives in Oakland, California and a request comes into our group requesting information about another Chinese family in Oakland, we will have a resource person to write to. Does it take any special training to do genealogy research. For most part, simple genealogy research work can be done by lay persons. I would be happy to train others. Anyone in Hawaii up to this challenge? Please write or call. General information on the Chou clan (genealogy) can be found at my website http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Courtyard/1535/cha_pu.html The following surnames descend from Chou Dynasty Emperors and major Princes: Chow, Chang, Ching, Ing, Wu, Goo, Lum, Lau, Loui, Sun, Ho, Wong, Yap, Lai, Kee, Kwock, Mao, Choy, Dang, Young, Siu and a few others. Related clans by Chinese intermarriage-ties to the Chou clan and dynasty are Chun (Chun, Chen, Chu) and Aisin-Gioro. Please see my homepage, above, for more information. Write to me, if you have any questions. Lester D. K. Chow, younger cousin to the late China Premier Chow En-lai and younger cousin by marriage-ties to the late Chiang Kai-shek and Sun Yat-sen. Email: lchow@nospam.lava.net (Remove "nospam.") Tel: (808) 538-1855 Postal address: P.O. Box 4604, Honolulu, Hawaii 96812 All postal mail to me should contain an e-mail address, if you desire a reply. Ps: If there are any China scholars on this list, members of the academic community, people actively involved in Chinese genealogy or China history, I am a good source to write to about (1) the early beginnings of China's history (pre-history China), (2) the Ch'ing Dynasty and imperial succession (my mother is a niece of the late Henry P'u Yee Aisin-Gioro), (3) the Mongolian Yuan Dynasty, (4) the Chou and Ming Dynasties and imperial genealogy and succession. I have access to some of the unpublished genenalogy records of these Imperial families, as I am a descendant and family member. My resume is online. -- Lester D. K. Chow and Associates, International Political Consultants and Conflict Resolution Specialists. http://lchow.webvis.net/temp.html Official representative for China's Imperial family, for those members who reside abroad in the United States of America.