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    1. [CHINA] Tartar
    2. nathan
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=216 Surname: ------------------------- Tartary was the name used for Manchuria (an era of China in the north east, above Korea) by westerners during the Qing (Ch'ing) Dynasty. It is possible that this person was a Manchu or a Chinese Bannerman (A Chinese in a Manchu army or "Banner"). Most People that were ethnicly Chinese in Manchuria lived on or near the Liao Pennsula, a small pennsula west of Korea. Here is a link to help you with general Qing History: http://www.britannica.com/seo/c/ching-dynasty/ It is less likely, but possible, that he came form inner Mongolia, also a "Tartar" state, but as I said before, the term usualy refered to the Manchus and Manchuria during the time you mentioned.

    07/18/2000 08:53:58
    1. [CHINA] names
    2. nathan
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=215 Surname: ------------------------- I do not know what your friends are talking about. I can think of two characters with the phonetic Wei which are surnames, but neither one means yellow. On the other hand, there is a fairly common surname with the meaning "yellow", called Huang in Mandarin.

    07/18/2000 08:41:39
    1. [CHINA] Chinese ancestry`
    2. Sue Kline
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=214 Surname: LAOTAI ------------------------- Searching for my gggrandmother, IUN LAOTAI, who lived in Huangdu in 1860s.

    07/16/2000 11:59:41
    1. Re: [CHINA] LOUIE
    2. NoSpamlchow
    3. On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Tina M. Lew wrote: > Searching for any information on the surname LOUIE . Thanks > The Loui (Lui) surname descends from the Chou Dynasty of China. The Chou dynasty is China's Imperial family, today. This is a little known history of China's Imperial descendancy and traditional succession. All people carrying the Chow (Chow, Chou, Zhou) surname are Imperial princes and all people carrying a Chou Dynasty related name are, also, Imperial Chinese princes. Go to my homepage at http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Courtyard/1535/cha_pu.html to see a genealogy of the Chou clan and you will find the origin of the Loui surname. GeoCities does not, at this time, have a China site and all things that are Asian gets put in their Japan site. The following surnames descend from Chou Dynasty Kings or Princes: Chow, Chang, Ching, Lum, Ho, Wong, Ing, Goo, Yap, Lai, Sun, Ho, Mao, Kwock, Loui, Lau (Liu, Lew, Lau) and a few other names. Chinese with the above surnames are Imperial Chinese princes, today. Lester D. K. Chow lchow@lava.net President of the Chou Clansmen Association http://www.idis.com/ChouOnline

    07/16/2000 08:01:03
    1. [CHINA] ENG and UY
    2. SERAFIN P. BARRETTO JR.
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=213 Surname: UY, WEI, YELLOW, BARRETTO ------------------------- IF YOUR DAD IS FROM FUKIEN (FUJIAN), CHINA, we are relatives. ENG is the right pronounciation of UY when written as chinese character which means YELLOW. Please ask your dad if he knows relatives in the Philippines.

    07/16/2000 05:28:42
    1. [CHINA] Family Trace Uy of Fujian or Fukian
    2. SERAFIN P. BARRETTO JR.
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=212 Surname: Uy, Wei ------------------------- Please help me trace our relatives from Fukien (Fujian), China. My grandfather is from Fukien with the surname of Uy but used the surname of his godfather/sponsor in the Philippines as BARRETTO. His filipino name is SATURNINO BARRETTO who was kidnapped for ransom and murdered by Huks of Quezon Province, Philippines in 1952. Some old chinese friends told me that the meaning of the chinese character UY is YELLOW and the pronounciation is not really UY but eing or egn. Some said that the Uy in Mandarin is WEI.

    07/16/2000 05:19:28
    1. [CHINA] LOUIE
    2. Tina M. Lew
    3. Searching for any information on the surname LOUIE . Thanks

    07/16/2000 04:40:43
    1. Re: [CHINA] the name
    2. Joann Levin
    3. Nathan, or anyone: Can you please tell me what "Hue" means? Thank you. Joann Nathan wrote: > Posted on: General China Query Forum > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=209 > > Surname: > ------------------------- > > Ah, in southern Mandarin and southern dialects, is usualy addded to a charcter > of the given name, denoting a closer sort of friendship. Thus Ah Fra or > whatever, was probably his given name or derived from his given name. It > is not unusual with Chinese Immigration to various countries for them to > get the surname wrong, especialy since, in Chinese, surnames were placed > first. > > As far as Foa or fra, if it is a surname, it is probably "Hua" in mandarin, > meaning flower, or "Fa" meaning prosperity.

    07/16/2000 02:46:14
    1. Re: [CHINA] Information on Engs in China
    2. In a message dated 07/13/2000 10:18:20 Pacific Daylight Time, tk_chartrand@hotmail.com writes: << I'm interested in any information on any Engs/Ings/Ngs related to my dad's side of the family. My dad's parents are Allen and Magie Eng and immigrated to Canada in the 1940's. >> Hello Kathleen, If you have place names you can probably get death records for your grandparents that will list their parents' names. I'm in the States and I know American death certificates have that information. Have you tried that? Or obituaries? Judy Rebbeck Watten northern California

    07/15/2000 12:51:52
    1. [CHINA] A long shot
    2. Philippa Harvey
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=211 Surname: FU ------------------------- I'd like some information on how to trace a gentleman, surname FU, from Tartary. This would have to be prior to 1824 but that is all the information I have. I'm not even sure where Tartary was in the early 1800s but I believe the word Tartar was used to describe some of the nomadic Chinese groups. Brick walls get thicker all the time!!!!

    07/14/2000 09:41:13
    1. [CHINA] the name
    2. Nathan
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=209 Surname: ------------------------- Ah, in southern Mandarin and southern dialects, is usualy addded to a charcter of the given name, denoting a closer sort of friendship. Thus Ah Fra or whatever, was probably his given name or derived from his given name. It is not unusual with Chinese Immigration to various countries for them to get the surname wrong, especialy since, in Chinese, surnames were placed first. As far as Foa or fra, if it is a surname, it is probably "Hua" in mandarin, meaning flower, or "Fa" meaning prosperity.

    07/13/2000 08:16:09
    1. [CHINA] Information on Engs in China
    2. Kathleen Eng Chartrand
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=208 Surname: ENG, ING, NG ------------------------- I'm interested in any information on any Engs/Ings/Ngs related to my dad's side of the family. My dad's parents are Allen and Magie Eng and immigrated to Canada in the 1940's.

    07/13/2000 03:19:33
    1. [CHINA] ancestory
    2. Sue
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=207 Surname: FRA, FOA ------------------------- seeking ancestory of AH FOA or FRA family, AH FOA was born in Canton, China in 1850 and died in 1887, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

    07/11/2000 02:07:15
    1. [CHINA] Lein Ing Ahoi
    2. VioleManoa
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=206 Surname: AHOI ------------------------- Born about 1886 in China. Returned sometime after 1907

    07/11/2000 04:22:16
    1. Re: [CHINA] Direction?
    2. Try Xungen's upgraded English site at chineseroots.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philippa Harvey" <philippa@dynamite.com.au> To: <CHINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 8:26 PM Subject: [CHINA] Direction? > Posted on: General China Query Forum > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=201 > > Surname: Kak > ------------------------- > > Hi Graham - I feel for you, I'm up against a brick wall too, but mine is > not a problem of translation, rather of discovery!!! I don't know if I > can help or not, but I have Chinese friends who, I'm sure, would try to > translate the inscription on the tombstone if you could scan the photo > and send it to me as an attachment. No promises, mind, but I think we might > yet work something out. > > There is another site for tracing families (perhaps we should wait until > we see if the translation works first), but it is mostly in Chinese except > for the introduction. The address is > www.xungen.com > and it is reputed to have connections to one of the greatest Chinese family > history collections in the world (I think in the University of Shanghai > Library). Can't swear to its value as I don't read Chinese. > > Think about the scanning possibility and let me know. > > Philippa Harvey > >

    07/10/2000 09:48:29
    1. [CHINA] Surname
    2. Philippa Harvey
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=205 Surname: PAN ------------------------- Thanks, Nathan, for the response. My very limited understanding is that Pan is, in this case, the surname. The problem now is to try to discover links backwards in order to discover my g-gfather's full Chinese name and from there the details of his family. I have not been able to find any relevant details here in Australia and have really come up against a brick wall.

    07/10/2000 08:31:27
    1. [CHINA] Surname
    2. Nathan Tolman
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=204 Surname: ------------------------- Both Fu and Pan are surnames in Mandarin. Which one it is depends on if the person writing it puts first name first (Western style) or first name last (Chinese Style). From looking at the rominized name you had in your message, I would have to say the surname is probably Pan, just because there are few chharacters with that phonetic and most of them are not usualy used as a given name.

    07/10/2000 05:59:34
    1. [CHINA] Translation
    2. Nathan Tolman
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=203 Surname: ------------------------- I can probably translate the tombstone for you if you send me a picture in an attached file using Email. Nathan

    07/10/2000 05:54:22
    1. [CHINA] fujian ann zhi chuan chew
    2. Tan sengsung
    3. Posted on: General China Query Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=202 Surname: chen ------------------------- I would like to trace the origin of my father's birthplace in Fujian province, ann zhi,chuan chew

    07/09/2000 04:06:02
    1. Re: [CHINA] Trying to trace ancestors
    2. garth patrick
    3. Philippa How do you know he was born in Amoy. Garth ----- Original Message ----- From: Philippa Harvey <philippa@dynamite.com.au> To: <CHINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 9:42 AM Subject: [CHINA] Trying to trace ancestors > Posted on: General China Query Forum > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/China/General?read=199 > > Surname: PAN, CHANG > ------------------------- > > My great-grandfather was born in Amoy in about 1824. His father was Fu > Pan, his mother was Nam Chang. He came to Australia in about 1850 and somewhere > between then and when he was married (in Queensland in 1864) his name was > changed to Davidson. I have no way of discovering his Chinese name or any > particulars of his origin. Any assistance would be gratefully received!!! >

    07/09/2000 11:34:58