** High Priority ** ** Reply Requested When Convenient ** Hi, i am looking for information on my grandfather's family in China. His name was Seu Don Woo....anybody out there who could perhaps help me? He was born in Macau.

Looking for information on the Shaw family who were shopkeepers around Amoy, China 1830. One son James arrived in Australia 1850's. The family were either American or English.

I am also a Leong,and also searching for part of my tree. One of my ancestors may have ended up in Hawaii or possibly in California, somewhere in the mid to late 1800s. To start your tree, best is to start with the ones you know- your self,your parents and grandparents - i.e. with all the info you know, and take it from there. I believe the older Chinese had specific family names that are kept from one generation to the next. For example , one of my ancestors was Leong Loy aka Leong Shin Choy. His brothers were Shin Fook, Shin Kong. The Shin is a common name kept in that generation. In the next generation, they may choose another common name among the sons, a different one for daughters, and so forth. A few specific names are usually kept within a family in the form of a verse, for easy remembrance. If I meet any Leong possessing the name Shin as part of the full name, that person could have come from the same tree. Good luck.

On 28 Jul 2001 Yamli@xtra.co.nz wrote: > I am also a Leong,and also searching for part of my tree. One > of my ancestors may have ended up in Hawaii or possibly in California, > somewhere in the mid to late 1800s. To start your tree, best is to > start with the ones you know- your self,your parents and grandparents > - i.e. with all the info you know, and take it from there. I believe > the older Chinese had specific family names that are kept from one > generation to the next. For example , one of my ancestors was Leong Loy > aka Leong Shin Choy. His brothers were Shin Fook, Shin Kong. The Shin > is a common name kept in that generation. In the next generation, they > may choose another common name among the sons, a different one for > daughters, and so forth. A few specific names are usually kept within a > family in the form of a verse, for easy remembrance. If I meet any Leong > possessing the name Shin as part of the full name, that person could > have come from the same tree. > Good luck. The above is good advice, yet, in addition to that, I would suggest joining a family society as they could help you the most. If you are in Hawaii, I would suggest that you join the Chou Clansmen (not tooting my own horn, but stating the truth that they are the best people to help you). What the Chinese in Hawaii are hiding is the most worthy heritage in the entire history of China and it encompasses your family surname. You should look in your State library for books on Chinese genealogy and, also, go to my website to learn about Chinese relations. You should participate in Chinese cultural activities, which will make your life rich and your services will add to the community at large. Only by contributing our time freely to others will we be able to build a better community. Often Chinese organizations are lacking and American groups flourish in this country. Isn't it time to help your own? Give a little and get a lot back in return! All Chinese are brothers! Why not help your own kin!? http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Courtyard/1535/cha_pu.html 70% of Hawaii's Chinese come from the Chungshan area in China. All or most carry the Imperial heritage, whether they admit to it or not. Refer to the above website for details. If you have any questions, please write to me privately. lchow@nospam.lava.net (Remove "nospam." to send me e-mail.)

On 27 Jul 2001 copperdove@hawaii.rr.com wrote: > I want to start my family tree and don't know where to start. > Would appreciate any information on where and who to write for documents. > I believe my great-grandparents came from China to Hawaii. Any HELP > would be greatly appreciated. Dear Copper Dove, I have the following suggestions: When searching for family genealogy, one should never ask anonymously. If people do help, they would like to know who they are helping. If you live in Hawaii and do not know your family history or genealogy, then the fault lies with one's family and with Hawaii's local Chinese community. There are many Chinese in Hawaii and I can not see why they don't help others. It seems as if Chinese fight all of the time and never extend a hand in friendship to other Chinese. It is better to help other people, than to be critical of them. The Leong family comes from Imperial Chinese roots and many of them were brought to Hawaii along with the Chou and Chun clans. At one time Leongs ruled part of China and had their own family dynasty. Many descendants of recent China greats came to Hawaii. The history is given at my website http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Courtyard/1535/cha_pu.html. Please read my website! Many of Hawaii's Chinese people and clubs DO NOT teach, nor give out this kind of information. This is one of my gripes with those in positions of control and power in local Hawaii Chinese organizations. If you go to your local library, most likely you will find books on how to research your family genealogy. Every State in the United States of America probably has information as to how to go about researching family roots. Additionally, if you want genealogy information on your family, you need to consult with a good genealogy expert, if such exist. The cost of doing such would be about $160 per hour with no results guaranteed. The other option is to join a Chinese society, where you can get help in your genealogy search possibly for free. Every Chinese family has a Chinese surname society, so do you have one where you live? Nothing in this world is free and there is some kind of cost associated with getting things. What are you prepared to pay? If you or other Chinese truly want to find your roots, why don't you volunteer your time with some Chinese society. If you do, then Chinese elders would be too happy to help you with your genealogy search. Many of the old folks clam up and do not give away such things for free! Good deeds are rewarded. That's how my grandparents brought me up. I had to do chores, before they gave me anything...and they sat in judgment of all of their grandchildren. Those who were good and those who worked for it, those who helped grandparents, for example, clean the yard and household chores were given bits and pieces of the family genealogy. Those who did not obey grandparents and did not work (as children) WERE NOT given their genealogy. Many Chinese went without! If you live in Hawaii, the best thing to do is to join the Chou Clan Society. They maintain a small library of Chinese records and their collection is much better than the ones kept in Hong Kong, Singapore, or Shanghai Library. The Chou society covers surnames like Chow, Chang, Ching, Wong, Ing, Goo, Choy, Lum, Lau, Loui, Lai, Yap, Sun, Ho, Chiang, Woo, Mao, Dang, Young, and Siu to mention a few. Chock and Tom are included in this Chinese grouping as well as Aisin-Gioro and Chun (from the Ming Dynasty). Other last names of Chao, Chai, Leong, etc are of interest to the Chou Society because of family relations over time and history. Hawaii's Chou Society was started on behalf of the four main lineage brothers (descendants) of the Chou surname, who make up the backbone of the Chou Dynasty. These men arrived in Hawaii around or prior to the turn of the century. I run the Chou clan society, today. Most people DON'T care about helping others. Most people only want for themselves, so many local Chinese (those not connected to societies and clubs) have told me they don't share their family books with anyone. So, if you are a relative, such people will not share or let you know that such a book exist, so I was told. You have to help people in order to learn and get genealogy information. There is a cost. You either get it from a Chinese society...sometimes, by helping them out as a volunteer or by doing chores cleaning the family hall, sweeping the family hall or cleaning toilets...or by paying a professional Chinese genealogist the going rate of $160 per hour. I got mine by helping parents and grandparents. By being an obedient son and by listening to them. Most Chinese people in this day and age will want to get their family genealogy for free. When you provide it to them for free, out of your love for them as family members and as a result of your years of research and hard labor, they will never truly appreciate what you have done for them and after they receive the documents (rare pieces of paper), you will never see them again, nor hear from them. People are strange, selfish. They only care for their own pleasures and have no consideration for others. By making people work for their genealogy, as my mother and grandmother said, people will understand the hard labor and sacrifices that you have put into this thing. They will appreciate their genealogy all the more, seeing what it is truly all about and seeing the great sacrifice of the Chinese people in preserving these things. You can not find such rare documents in any library, whether in the Mormon Library at Salt Lake, nor at Shanghai's touted genealogy library. Chinese family genealogy was the property of the clan societies and family halls (temples). Such would not be kept at a public library. I put many postings up about Chinese genealogy in soc.culture.china and soc.culture.asian.american and nobody responded to these things. I assumed that Chinese people weren't interested. It got so bad that I wanted to burn my genealogy collection. I wrote to some local Chinese societies and offered these things to them for free. I sent out copies to family members throughout Hawaii and mainland U.S. and haven't heard from any of my own kin. They aren't interested in such things and do not want to pay for the cost of maintaining all of those books. Giving information away free does not pay and people do not truly appreciate it (their genealogy). If you make people volunteer for work and they had to earn the privilege of having a genealogy they would appreciate it much more! You could tell a Chinaman that he was an Imperial Prince, he would not have any appreciation for such things, nor would he know the value of such a dignified distinction. If you knighted a wealthy American or European, that man would honor his English or European Crown. Not so with people of the Chinese race. Part of culture is having a true love for it. Most Chinese curse their cultural roots and would rather listen to American professors ("scholars"?) lecture on the merits of money and western democracy. As to the way of the European, so, too, should the Chinese culture be. People have to earn the right to have a genealogy tree. -- Lester D. K. Chow and Associates, International Political Consultants and Conflict Resolution Specialists. http://lchow.webvis.net/temp.html Official representative for China's Imperial family, for those members who reside abroad in the United States of America.

I want to start my family tree and don't know where to start. Would appreciate any information on where and who to write for documents. I believe my great-grandparents came from China to Hawaii. Any HELP would be greatly appreciated.

Could somebody please advise me of the E-mail and URL of BEJING LIBRARY. John New Zealand

My Mr. LEU (Chee Hong) was born in Canton in 1920, travelled to India before arriving Liverpool, England. Sister Yit Lan and Fung Ping ? Vancover Canada. Parents poss. Sing Man & May Ling LAM. Getting desperate ... China is a BIG country !!!

I think it would be more helpful if you'd translate the Vietnamese pronounciations to Mandarin or Cantonese. Khue Duong= ???? Yang/Yeung Luu Hao= ??? ??? Huyen-hoa,Quang Dong= ?????-wa/hua, GuangDong Manh=(I'm assuming this means "strength"), Li/Lik (in Cantonese Phuong= Fong/Fung Minh= Ming Khuong= ?????? hung= ???? Tiem Duong= ???? Yang/Yeung Sorry, I'm an ABC with Cantonese parents born in Vietnam, so I don't really know much when it comes to translating between Cantonese and Vietnamese (my Viet isn't that good).

What would you like to know about James A Lowson.

Hello Listers Here are strays extracted while searching for my DEMPSTER family. If you wish to see all the extractions for various places, visit the archive of the London mailing list at RootsWeb, and enter the search word 'Strays'. Hope this helps someone. Eleanore Dempster Mission, B.C. Canada Researching the interconnected families of: DEMPSTER, BUNDUCK, OSBORN[E], ELLMAN, DENMAN, DAWSON, FENNING, HIBBERT, GAITSKELL[S], MOSS, GREENHOUSE, HAINE, LEWALL, VOLLHOFFER Other name interests: PUTLAND, SHOOSMITH, REBBECK, D'ABBADIE, ROUNSEFELL, DE WOLF, TURK, LEADER ----------------------- FHL Film #0542633, 1861 Census; Lee, Kent, folio 51-53, p35-40 Missionary School: [pupils] John Palmer[?] KEASBURY[?], 12, b Singapore Benjm [---] KEASBURY[?], 11, b Singapore Geo Fredk BANSAM[?] or BAUSAM[?], 10, b China, B Subject Wm Henry BAUSICHE[?], 9, b China, B Subject

Do anyone has a good recommendation software for Chinese Genealogy? Currently I am using www.genopro.com as my vital research tools. But in Chienese the way we keep in Chinese surnames, from which province as our vital information. On the market are more for western kind of research.

Hi all, I'm looking for some historical resources in China. Maybe someone that can look in to this in china. It's in the period of 1900, the place is Shanxi, some people there died in the boxers rebellion. It's not really genealogical, more history. I have searched about 10 large sites about history in China, but can't find anything. Can someone help me for this, maybe give me some directions to look for ... . If you need information in detail, please mail me ! Thanks in advance, Johan.

My grandfather also moved to Trinidad in the early part of the century. His name was Poon, Kit Edwin. Because of a mix up in by the immigration officer his last name became Akit.

On 15 Jul 2001, at 22:52, trishttmygoddess@lovemail.com wrote with great flare and wits: > > i think my granmother and grandfather came form the TaiShan area too... > whoa and same last name too, only diff way of spelling... > Don't mean to throw cold water on you but a bit of stats here. Taishan's population is 1 million or so souls with an additional 1.4 million people living overseas who trace their roots back to Taishan. Kevin http://www3.telus.net/arts/wunbu ICQ: 41912308 __________________________________________________________ Families are like fudge... mostly sweet with a few nuts.

i think my granmother and grandfather came form the TaiShan area too... whoa and same last name too, only diff way of spelling...

My grandmother's name is Quach Tich Nhien [in yueyin it is Gok Sik Yin] she lived in Guangdong, China and moved to Cho Lon [SaiGon's Chinatown]. She married into the Lieu family [in yueyin it is Liu, in pinyin it is Liao]. I don't know my grandfathers name bt he also lived in Guangdong before moving to Cho Lon. They had 9 children My Xanh, My Van, Phuc Xanh, Hue Van, Manh Van, Bich Van, My Phuong, Phuc Dat and My Phan... they owned a really big Chinese herb medicine store there. I think my grandmother was born July 4, 1926 but her paperworks say December 31, 1926 because the paperworks were messed up when she got to VN... the first attachment titled lastname.jpg is Lieu, the second one is Quach... if u need the anems clearer email me so i can retype them...

This message is in relation to the message I sent yesterday (7-14-2001) about my grandfather, CHUNG Sing Gni. Apparently, my grandfather changed his name to CHUNG Sing Li when he came to the U.S. in the early 1900's. So, if someone knows anything about my grandfather I would greatly appreciate it.

My grandfather is Sing Gni CHUNG. He immigrated from China in the early 1900's into the San Francisco port. He moved to Fernandina Beach, Florida, raised my father and died there in the mid 1950's. I need help to find out more information about my grandfather - currently I have no information. My father is Bo Song CHUNG Sr. and I am Bo Song CHUNG Jr.

Looking for any information on A Kin How Qua, immigrated to Victoria Australia in early 1850s from China, born around 1829, settled in the Avoca region. married Ellen Derrick in 1858.