Further to Joy's mailing re the 1911 Census entry which I couldn't find - but now have: 191 Claughton Road, Birkenhead [5 roomed house] Mary May Jones 38 Wid married 17 years 6 children born 3 living 3 deceased Charles Victor Jones son 18 Barman Stanley Howat Jones son 16 Barman Kathleen Elane Jones Daughter 10 All born Birkenhead. I found Charles Victor's baptismal certificate in the St Mary's Birkenhead parish register saying that he was born on 22 Oct, baptised 6 Nov 1892. Parents Henry & Mary Jones. 10 Waterloo Place, Team Owner. CV is also registered in the GRO listings. OND qr 1892 8A 474. I haven't found the other two children. Nor a marriage that matches precisely the names and ages. But maybe someone else has. The maths given on the 1911 doesn't add up! btw HOWAT is a Scottish surname. Maybe this helps! Ruth