Re: Henry Dowdall was the Recorder of Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland in 1689 - I'm assuming the Recorder was a Keeper of Records? Does anyone know if there were Recorders for other counties in Ireland in the late 17th and early 18th centuries, and where the records they kept might be found? Thanks, Sonia Murray -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cheshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 2:01 AM To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: CHESHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 222 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Henry Dowdall's death in 1748 in Chester (Mrs L. McCulloch) 2. Re: Henry Dowdall's death in 1748 in Chester (conaught2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:24:16 +0000 From: "Mrs L. McCulloch" <lyn.mcculloch@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [CHS] Henry Dowdall's death in 1748 in Chester To: "conaught2" <conaught2@charter.net>, cheshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <52784578003BD801@smtpout11.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by postmaster@smtpout11.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Margaret, a2a is the website for the National Archives. www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ There are some interesting looking Dowdall refs. As I said it covers archives all over the country. Try Henry Dowdall and just Dowdall and see what comes up. Regards, Lyn At 19:10 07/11/2013, you wrote: >Dear Lyn, > >Thank you for the information from the Treasury Calendar, British >History Online. Henry Dowdall's father Nicholas died in the 1660s and >his mother Katherine Plunkett remarried Lawrence Taafe. Dr. Taafe must >be a relative of his step-father. The record of the mortgage is very interesting. > >I am not familiar with a 2a, could you please let me know what this is >in reference to? You have provided some interesting information. > >Thank you, >Margaret > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mrs L. McCulloch" <lyn.mcculloch@btinternet.com> >To: "conaught2" <conaught2@charter.net> >Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:03 AM >Subject: Re: [CHS] Henry Dowdall's death in 1748 in Chester > > > > Dear Margaret, > > I failed to spot it but there is a ref to Henry Dowdall in the > > Treasury Calendar which is online at British History Online. > > 'forfeited lands of Henry Dowdall mortgaged to Dr Taafe for 400 l > > (pounds)' dated March 1697 Regards, Lyn > > > > > > A > > t 01:10 07/11/2013, you wrote: > >>I am trying to locate records for Henry Dowdall in Chester. I have > >>a newspaper obituary of his death in 1748. Henry Dowdall was the > >>Recorder of Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland in 1689. I just > >>learned that Civil Registration started in 1837. > >> > >>Is anyone on the list familiar with some type of records I could > >>search for Chester in the mid 1700s? I don't have an address in > >>Chester. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >>Thank you, > >>Margaret K. > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >>----- > >>No virus found in this message. > >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6810 - Release Date: > >>11/05/13 > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6810 - Release Date: >11/05/13 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 09:59:33 -0800 From: "conaught2" <conaught2@charter.net> Subject: Re: [CHS] Henry Dowdall's death in 1748 in Chester To: <CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <9B91EEC1010840D1B322733416E20D0F@KristichPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Dear Lyn, Thank you for reminding me what a2a means. It has been several years since I checked for Dowdalls on the website. There have been some new additions that are quite interesting. One of the references mentions the Lancashire Records Office so I will write for one of the references that sounded quite interesting. Was it common to send a body back to Ireland for burial in the family plot? I know that in 1558 after the Archbishop of Armagh George Dowdall died his body was sent to Ireland and was buried in Termonfeckin. I wonder what the custom was in 1748. Thank you again for such great suggestions and sources. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs L. McCulloch" <lyn.mcculloch@btinternet.com> To: "conaught2" <conaught2@charter.net>; <cheshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [CHS] Henry Dowdall's death in 1748 in Chester > Dear Margaret, > > a2a is the website for the National Archives. > > www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ > > > There are some interesting looking Dowdall refs. As I said it covers > archives all over the country. > > Try Henry Dowdall and just Dowdall and see what comes up. > > Regards, > > Lyn > > > At 19:10 07/11/2013, you wrote: >>Dear Lyn, >> >>Thank you for the information from the Treasury Calendar, British History >>Online. Henry Dowdall's father Nicholas died in the 1660s and his mother >>Katherine Plunkett remarried Lawrence Taafe. Dr. Taafe must be a relative >>of his step-father. The record of the mortgage is very interesting. >> >>I am not familiar with a 2a, could you please let me know what this is in >>reference to? You have provided some interesting information. >> >>Thank you, >>Margaret >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mrs L. McCulloch" <lyn.mcculloch@btinternet.com> >>To: "conaught2" <conaught2@charter.net> >>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:03 AM >>Subject: Re: [CHS] Henry Dowdall's death in 1748 in Chester >> >> >> > Dear Margaret, >> > I failed to spot it but there is a ref to Henry Dowdall in the Treasury >> > Calendar which is online at British History Online. >> > 'forfeited lands of Henry Dowdall mortgaged to Dr Taafe for 400 l >> > (pounds)' dated March 1697 >> > Regards, >> > Lyn >> > >> > >> > A >> > t 01:10 07/11/2013, you wrote: >> >>I am trying to locate records for Henry Dowdall in Chester. I have a >> >>newspaper obituary of his death in 1748. Henry Dowdall was the >> >>Recorder >> >>of Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland in 1689. I just learned that Civil >> >>Registration started in 1837. >> >> >> >>Is anyone on the list familiar with some type of records I could search >> >>for Chester in the mid 1700s? I don't have an address in Chester. >> >>Any >> >>ideas would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >>Thank you, >> >>Margaret K. >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >>----- >> >>No virus found in this message. >> >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >>Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6810 - Release Date: >> >>11/05/13 >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>----- >>No virus found in this message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6810 - Release Date: 11/05/13 > > > ------------------------------ To contact the CHESHIRE list administrator, send an email to CHESHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hi Sonia, Hopefully some of the following will be of some help. Ireland was evidently the same as in England as Joy stated. To qualify for Town Recorder the requirement was at least 6 years experience as a barrister, I am not sure when that requirement started. Henry Dowdall was a lawyer and as Recorder of Drogheda acted as a judge (magistrate). The Town Recorder was one of the leading officials of the town and in that capacity he gave the welcoming speech to James II in 1689 when he arrived in Drogheda. Unforunately Irish records are scarce and civil registration did not start as early as it did in England. Civil Registration began in Ireland in 1864. Civil Registration for Protestant marriages began in 1845. Births, marriages and deaths were registered with district registrars. You can go to the following website for information about the Civil Registration records. https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Ireland_Civil_Registration If you know what town or townland your family came from you can also check church registers. Sadly most of the older records no longer exist. The largest collection of church registers is held by the Church of Ireland's Representative Church Body Library (RCBL) in Dublin. Some of the parish records date from 1619. They add more collections each year. as more parishes hand over their records for safekeeping. For Catholic Records you can contact the parish church. The Family History Centers have all the Civil Registration records on microfilm. They also have a lot of parish records on microfilm. St. Peter's R.C. Church in Drogheda has some older records, you can also check the National Library of Ireland and the National Archives of Ireland. PRONI (Public Records Office of Northern Ireland) has some excellent records available free of charge online. Most of Ireland's earlier census records were destroyed. The Griffith's Valuation of the mid 1800s (1848-1864) is valuable in locating families. It is not a census but it lists: Tenant name Immediate Lessor County Parish Town/Townland In some cases even a nickname The Griffith's Valuation was updated every few years and those records are called the Cancelled Land Books. When a tenant died or emigrated his or her name was crossed out and the new tenant's name was entered in red. Even though many records have been lost or destroyed there are many sources that can hopefully help locate some of your family history. You might find some family records in Betham's Abstracts of Prerogative Wills of Ireland. Google digitalizes books and records from all over the world. Luckily for me there are a lot of documents regarding the Dowdall family and I have found a wealth of information through the Google Books online. Several years ago I was told that I would never find the family of Venerable James Dowdall b. Drogheda d. August 13, 1599 in Exeter. Quite by accident I found the will of James' brother from 1581 which listed several family members. Please forgive the detour from the list's topic of Cheshire related questions. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbert Murray" <happyman70@cableone.net> To: <cheshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [CHS] CHESHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 222 > Re: Henry Dowdall was the Recorder of Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland in > 1689 - I'm assuming the Recorder was a Keeper of Records? Does anyone > know > if there were Recorders for other counties in Ireland in the late 17th and > early 18th centuries, and where the records they kept might be found? > > Thanks, > Sonia Murray

I don't know if it was the same in Ireland but in England and Wales a Recorder was a magistrate or judge (see wikipedia entry below).   I http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recorder_(judge)   Joy  ________________________________ From: Gilbert Murray <happyman70@cableone.net> To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2013, 15:00 Subject: Re: [CHS] CHESHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 222 Re: Henry Dowdall was the Recorder of Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland in 1689 - I'm assuming the Recorder was a Keeper of Records?  Does anyone know if there were Recorders for other counties in Ireland in the late 17th and early 18th centuries, and where the records they kept might be found?  Thanks, Sonia Murray