Hi There is a probate as follows Henry Jones of Moss-hall, Woodchurch Lane, Prenton Birkenhead, team owner, died 11th August 1907, probate Chester 7th September to Walter Howat limited-companies clerk. Effects GBP 4743.8s.2d That could be were the Howat name comes from, he could be a relative or just a close friend. As far as the 1901 census is concerned we only see what the Enumerator wrote and not the actual Household Form so whilst Howard may be clear on the Enumerators Book it is only a transcription of another document. Andy >-----Original Message----- >From: Ruth J >Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:53 AM >To: Cheshire >Subject: [CHS] Jones in Birkenhead >Further to Joy's mailing re the 1911 Census entry which I couldn't find - >but now have: >191 Claughton Road, Birkenhead [5 roomed house] >Mary May Jones 38 Wid married 17 years 6 children born 3 living 3 >deceased >Charles Victor Jones son 18 Barman >Stanley Howat Jones son 16 Barman >Kathleen Elane Jones Daughter 10 >All born Birkenhead. >I found Charles Victor's baptismal certificate in the St Mary's Birkenhead >parish register saying that he was born on 22 Oct, baptised 6 Nov 1892. >Parents Henry & Mary Jones. 10 Waterloo Place, Team Owner. CV is also >registered in the GRO listings. OND qr 1892 8A 474. >I haven't found the other two children. Nor a marriage that matches >precisely the names and ages. But maybe someone else has. >The maths given on the 1911 doesn't add up! >btw HOWAT is a Scottish surname. >Maybe this helps! >Ruth

Wow Andy. Don't know why I didn't come across that myself. It would be very interesting to get hold of a will as this could sort out a lot. Thank you very much. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy" <andycandlish@ozemail.com.au> Hi There is a probate as follows Henry Jones of Moss-hall, Woodchurch Lane, Prenton Birkenhead, team owner, died 11th August 1907, probate Chester 7th September to Walter Howat limited-companies clerk. Effects GBP 4743.8s.2d That could be were the Howat name comes from, he could be a relative or just a close friend. As far as the 1901 census is concerned we only see what the Enumerator wrote and not the actual Household Form so whilst Howard may be clear on the Enumerators Book it is only a transcription of another document. Andy