Thank you to Andy, Ruth, Graham and Robert for their replies. It does look as if they went through the ritual of making the allegations but not the bond or marriage. I will look at the other possibilities. Best wishes, J Sent from my iPad > On 11 Jan 2014, at 18:46, Graham Pointon <graham_pointon@lineone.net> wrote: > > Andy - > > Except that if, for some reason, and however unlikely, the Local > Register Office is also lacking the entry, then none of the later > generations of sources can be expected to include it. > > In that case, only the original Registrar, who failed to make the entry, > can be blamed. > > Graham > > >> On 11/01/2014 02:30, Andy wrote: >> Hi Ruth >> >> I think you misunderstood what Bob was saying. >> >> FreeBMD, Ancestry, FMP and other commercial sites are all sourced from the >> GRO Indexes. CheshireBMD is not. It is sourced from the Indexes of the >> Local Register Offices. These indexes are compiled from the Original >> Registers still held at the various Local Register Offices whereas the GRO >> Indexes are compiled from the copies that each office forwards to the GRO >> quarterly. In a perfect world the GRO registers would be identical to the >> Local Office Registers and both would have been transcribed exactly the same >> but unfortunately that isn't the case and the 2 sets of Indexes will have >> differences. >> >> Andy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ruth >> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:02 PM >> To: Robert Kirk >> Cc: cheshire@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CHS] Marriage Allegation on FamilySearch but no marriage found >> >> Bob - you miss my point. If the entry is missing from the original indices, >> then it will also be missing from the other compilations. I do not >> denigrate the work of those involved with Cheshire BMDs or any other >> source, but their accuracy and completeness depends on the quality of their >> source material. >> >> Ruth >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 10 Jan 2014, at 20:50, Robert Kirk <bob.kirk@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ruth >>>> Don't forget that FreeBMD and Cheshire BMD, as well as the FreeBMD >>>> transcript on Ancestry, are all from the same source, so if the original >>>> index to marriages at the GRO is incorrect, so will the others be. >>> You are quite wrong in the above statement unless you mean: 'There was a >>> Birth, There was a Marriage, There was a Death'. >>> To include CheshireBMD in the statement shows a complete lack of knowledge >>> as to the process involved in bringing this wonderful resource to the >>> internet. CheshireBMD entries are transcribed from the indexes held by >>> the individual Register Offices and then these transcriptions are further >>> checked against the ORIGINAL reigisters held by the that Register Office >>> with any errors or omissions being corrected/inserted. Throughout this >>> process several checks are made to ensure that you have the most accurate >>> resource available. >>> >>> Several counties are now using the CheshireBMD software and these can be >>> seen at http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/. >>> >>> Hope you find this useful >>> >>> Have Fun & Look Wide >>> >>> Bob Kirk >>> Late of Dukinfield >>> Cheshire >>> >>> www.Kirksoft.me.uk >>> http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 10 Jan 2014, at 13:49, Acorn Cottage <orange.wasps@live.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> The marriage allegation will simply an oath that there was no hindrance >>>> to >>>> the parties marrying. It did not necessarily mean that they did marry, >>>> although it is unusual to go through the process of obtaining a licence >>>> (which was the purpose of the Bond and Allegation) and then not follow >>>> through. >>>> >>>> Don't forget that FreeBMD and Cheshire BMD, as well as the FreeBMD >>>> transcript on Ancestry, are all from the same source, so if the original >>>> index to marriages at the GRO is incorrect, so will the others be. The >>>> allegation usually indicates where the proposed marriage will take >>>> place - I >>>> suggest you check the register, if it is a church, just to make sure. >>>> >>>> Ruth in Hampshire >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>>> [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julian Ravenscroft >>>>> Sent: 10 January 2014 13:07 >>>>> To: cheshire@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: [CHS] Marriage Allegation on FamilySearch but no >>>>> marriage found >>>>> >>>>> Hello All and Happy New Year, >>>>> >>>>> I was searching for a marriage in Cheshire between James >>>>> PENDLEBURY and his wife Ann (no surname known prior to the >>>>> search). I found the allegation with Ann DAVENPORT on family >>>>> search but no marriage in 1861. Other researchers have James >>>>> marrying in Rochdale,Lancashire to an Ann TUDOR and the names >>>>> of the children include Tudor as a middle name. >>>>> >>>>> No marriage for James and Ann DAVENPORT could be found in >>>>> FreeBMD, Ancestry or CheshireBMD websites and I wondered if >>>>> the marriage had just been missed from transcriptions. No >>>>> church name is given by family search. >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions welcome >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message