Hi Christine, You also said that both Matthew and Richard lived at a place called Lordship. Could this actually be a lordship of the local area? The village or parish would be called something else. For instance, Frodsham, where I have ancestors, has an administrative district called Frodsham Lordship. On some documents the hamlet they lived in is located in Frodsham and in others the document states Frodsham Lordship. Some search engines pick up both and sometimes it pays to search twice using each location. This is the link on the National Archives website explaining a lordship. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/mdr/help/mdr/lordship.htm Sarah On 25/02/2014 10:08, "Christine Tregonning" <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Hi Sarah and Carl. > > Thank you. Yes I think that Haslington is the correct place. I found a > baptism in the parish of Church-Lawton which might fit so I will have to do > some more searching tomorrow to see if I can find a marriage that fits. > > Regards, > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- > From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sarah Percival > Sent: Tuesday, 25 February 2014 10:23 p.m. > To: cheshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CHS] Harlington - location and BROOM family (also STUBBS > WARBURTON NIELD ) > > Or there is a Haslington not far from Crewe. I have not been able to look > at the image of the records to interpret the locations. > > Sarah > > On 25/02/2014 09:01, "Carl Rogerson" <carl@carlscam.com> wrote: > >> There Harlington a village in Bedfordshire, about 15 miles south of > Bedford? >> >> In the late 1700s it would have been close to one of the main >> stagecoach routes between Cheshire and London. >> >> Carl. >> >> >> >

Hi Sarah, There appears to be some confusion about the place Lordship. This is a bit of a red herring to me as it was not the focus of my research. It was to explain that the two spouses lived in the same area. Anyway I have done some research overnight and it seems that there are at least two places called Lordship in Cheshire. Family Search has a wonderful tool at http://maps.familysearch.org/ which was very useful. It gives three places in Cheshire - Frodsham, Weaverham and Witton. I am assuming that the latter two are merely hamlets and may not show up on a map. I am wondering whether Lordship in Weaverham and Witton are actually the same place. What I am able to surmise is that the Lordship that is of interest to me is in the vicinity of Lostock Gralam as Lostock and Lordship appeared to be used interchangeably for some baptismal records for the same family. As the records relate to the parish of Witton this seems to be the most likely location. What I am trying to establish is whether Mary STUBBS (maiden name BROOM )who married Richard NIELD is the same Mary STUBBS widow of Mathew STUBBS formally married to an Unknown WARBURTON. So I am looking for a marriage of a Mary BROOM to a gentleman by the name of WARBURTON. I know it is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack and the fact that one Mary STUBBS from Lordship was widowed and a widow by the name of Mary STUBBS married shortly thereafter to a man who lived in Lordship may just be a co-incidence. I was however trying to narrow down the list of suspects by identifying the place name Harlington and I am now certain that this is Haslington. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Percival Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 12:10 a.m. To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHS] Harlington - location and BROOM family (also STUBBS WARBURTON NIELD ) Hi Christine, You also said that both Matthew and Richard lived at a place called Lordship. Could this actually be a lordship of the local area? The village or parish would be called something else. For instance, Frodsham, where I have ancestors, has an administrative district called Frodsham Lordship. On some documents the hamlet they lived in is located in Frodsham and in others the document states Frodsham Lordship. Some search engines pick up both and sometimes it pays to search twice using each location. This is the link on the National Archives website explaining a lordship. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/mdr/help/mdr/lordship.htm Sarah

Christine Is it Rudheath lordship? See the following site: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/rudheath.html Guy Lawton On 25 February 2014 21:04, Christine Tregonning <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz>wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > There appears to be some confusion about the place Lordship. > > This is a bit of a red herring to me as it was not the focus of my > research. > It was to explain that the two spouses lived in the same area. > > Anyway I have done some research overnight and it seems that there are at > least two places called Lordship in Cheshire. Family Search has a > wonderful > tool at http://maps.familysearch.org/ which was very useful. > > It gives three places in Cheshire - Frodsham, Weaverham and Witton. I am > assuming that the latter two are merely hamlets and may not show up on a > map. I am wondering whether Lordship in Weaverham and Witton are actually > the same place. What I am able to surmise is that the Lordship that is of > interest to me is in the vicinity of Lostock Gralam as Lostock and Lordship > appeared to be used interchangeably for some baptismal records for the same > family. As the records relate to the parish of Witton this seems to be the > most likely location. > > What I am trying to establish is whether Mary STUBBS (maiden name BROOM > )who > married Richard NIELD is the same Mary STUBBS widow of Mathew STUBBS > formally married to an Unknown WARBURTON. So I am looking for a marriage of > a Mary BROOM to a gentleman by the name of WARBURTON. I know it is a bit > like looking for a needle in a haystack and the fact that one Mary STUBBS > from Lordship was widowed and a widow by the name of Mary STUBBS married > shortly thereafter to a man who lived in Lordship may just be a > co-incidence. > > I was however trying to narrow down the list of suspects by identifying the > place name Harlington and I am now certain that this is Haslington. > > Regards, > > Christine > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sarah Percival > Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 12:10 a.m. > To: cheshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CHS] Harlington - location and BROOM family (also STUBBS > WARBURTON NIELD ) > > Hi Christine, > You also said that both Matthew and Richard lived at a place called > Lordship. > > Could this actually be a lordship of the local area? The village or parish > would be called something else. For instance, Frodsham, where I have > ancestors, has an administrative district called Frodsham Lordship. On some > documents the hamlet they lived in is located in Frodsham and in others the > document states Frodsham Lordship. Some search engines pick up both and > sometimes it pays to search twice using each location. > > This is the link on the National Archives website explaining a lordship. > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/mdr/help/mdr/lordship.htm > > Sarah > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >