Yes, Bob. Sorry. Getting addled (what''s new?).The Joseph on the war memorial is a different chap.Ii just wanted to point out that John and Agnes Robinson had a daughter Elsie and a son Frank who may have been a war casualty. I am also confused as to why the Private J. Robinson of the South Wales Borderers who is on the Lostock Gralam Memorial doesn't seem to figure in John A. Knowles' book 'The Lost Boys of Lostock' or am I missing something? Regards, Lyn.