Christine, No - it isn't how the register has been filmed, only how FMP have chosen to display it. The full entry Ellen KEY is dtr of John Key of Winsham(Wincham), Rockgetter (of James & Sarah Key) of Liverpool) and Mary (of Will'm & Mary Sothurn of Winsham) born 19 MAR 1808 bap 3 APR 1808. [transcribed from the microfilm of the parish registers] Familysearch has indexed a marriage of John Key to a Mary Southern 20 DEC 1807 at St Mary & All Saints, Great Budworth - if you have some credits left it might be useful to check the entry. Now, there's a marriage indexed on Familysearch at Manchester 16 FEB 1824 of a John Kay to an Ann FONTER, I think that there's a good possibility FONTER could be a mis-transcription of FOSTER (think of the old fashioned lower case "s" and "n"). It may be worth you looking at Lancashire, many Cheshire couples married at either Liverpool or Manchester in the big churches/cathedrals. I believe you would probably need to get access to Ancestry to try and get the details of this marriage, if you are U.K. based, then a Library would be the place to enquire. Ann Kay of Wincham indexed on Familysearch as buried Gt Budworth 9 MAR 1844 a51y regards, Elaine. Subject: [CHS] Auxiliary Registers - Witton Hello, A while ago there was a discussion about auxiliary registers and I learnt that these were available for Witton. This has sparked my recent interest in my research into my forebears from Cheshire and in particular in the area around Northwich and although I don't have a lot of money at present I have subscribed for a brief period to Find my Past so I am trying to make the most of it while I can. I have identified that Ann wife of John KAY from WINCHAM (my forebears) is most likely to be Ann FORSTER daughter of William FORSTER and Hannah FARRINGTON who were married at GREAT BUDWORTH in 1792. This ties in with a baptism of an Ann FORSTER in 1793 with parents William and Ann. I have still not been able to find a marriage for Ann FORSTER and John KAY which I had presumed took place sometime before the birth of their first identified child in 1825. It was pointed out to me that this was a bit late for a first marriage for both parties. I have since found a baptism at WITTON for an Ellen KEY who was born in 1808. Ellen's parent's were John KEY and Mary. Now there is no doubt that this John KEY and my John KAY are the same person and although I cannot find a record of any other children to this marriage a Mary KAY aged 50 from WINCHAM is recorded as being buried in 1822. Now my problem is that the copy of the register on Find My Past that gives the mother's parent's names has been cut off so that only the mother's Christian name is left. Will this be how the page was filmed or just how it has been linked on Find my Past and is there any way that I can find the full entry. Regards, Christine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Elaine, Mike and Martin Thank you very much for this it is appreciated. I am surprised that I missed this entry though but perhaps I had limited my recent searches to Cheshire. I see that there are actually two records - one under FONTER and the other under FOSTER. Martin has sent me a copy of the marriage which is under the name of FOSTER so I am presuming that the other record relates to a marriage license as it only gives the place name and not the church. Thank you Elaine for the information regarding John KAY's first wife. I wonder if it was a marriage of necessity given the age difference and the fact that I can't find any further children especially as there is only 4 months or so between the marriage and the birth of the daughter. John KAY was born in KNUTSFORD and the most likely contender at this stage for his parents are James KAY and Sarah FOXLEY who were married in 1785 at KNUTSFORD. The Liverpool connection must however be correct as it is recorded quite clearly in two separate records. I don't really know where to start with this one but perhaps I will leave this for later. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Hanson [mailto:odessa@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2014 12:18 a.m. To: Christine Tregonning; 'Cheshire' Subject: Re: [CHS] Auxiliary Registers - Witton Christine, No - it isn't how the register has been filmed, only how FMP have chosen to display it. The full entry Ellen KEY is dtr of John Key of Winsham(Wincham), Rockgetter (of James & Sarah Key) of Liverpool) and Mary (of Will'm & Mary Sothurn of Winsham) born 19 MAR 1808 bap 3 APR 1808. [transcribed from the microfilm of the parish registers] Familysearch has indexed a marriage of John Key to a Mary Southern 20 DEC 1807 at St Mary & All Saints, Great Budworth - if you have some credits left it might be useful to check the entry. Now, there's a marriage indexed on Familysearch at Manchester 16 FEB 1824 of a John Kay to an Ann FONTER, I think that there's a good possibility FONTER could be a mis-transcription of FOSTER (think of the old fashioned lower case "s" and "n"). It may be worth you looking at Lancashire, many Cheshire couples married at either Liverpool or Manchester in the big churches/cathedrals. I believe you would probably need to get access to Ancestry to try and get the details of this marriage, if you are U.K. based, then a Library would be the place to enquire. Ann Kay of Wincham indexed on Familysearch as buried Gt Budworth 9 MAR 1844 a51y regards, Elaine.